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 TheDao

Joined: 8/1/2009
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Posted: 8/21/2009 7:05:13 AM
I hope aspartame is going to be banned in the USA which may lead for Canada to ban it also. I don't see the need for this useless chemical, it tastes nasty. There is still debate among people that diet sugars is safe to consume when in fact there's no proof at all.


In the light of this sort of evidence, how is it still OK for aspartame to be sold and therefore eaten by men, women, pregnant women, children, and developing fetuses? Because our regulatory authorities say it’s OK, that’s why.

However, maybe things are about to change. I read on the American online newspaper The Huffington Post that the FDA may be set to ban aspartame [3]. According to Professor Sam Epstein, cancer-prevention expert and professor emeritus at the University of Illinois in Chicago, “Under the explicit provisions of the 1958 Delaney Law, which requires an automatic ban on carcinogenic food additives, it is anticipated that Dr. Margaret Hamburg, the newly appointed FDA Commissioner and inspiring public health advocate, will promptly ban the continued use of aspartame.” Which can only be a good thing, I reckon.


source:
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/21048/
 justwant2no

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Posted: 8/21/2009 8:32:35 AM
I have never allowed my kids to drink diet soda. Aspartame is a benzine derivative! How can that be good for you?
 Takmeaziam

Joined: 4/19/2008
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Posted: 8/21/2009 8:54:15 AM
Aspartame is not just in soda. It is horrific the products for children that have aspartame in it.

http://www.aspartame.ca/page_a2a.html

It pays to read labels.

T.
 winteragain

Joined: 3/26/2009
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Posted: 8/21/2009 4:48:44 PM
punish the parents that give aspartame to kids. don't punish the chemical itself. kids never ask for diet soda, they think it tastes like siht compared to regular soda and it's the parents' fault for giving them the fake crap.
 satx78218

Joined: 10/30/2007
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Posted: 8/21/2009 5:26:53 PM
Aspatame, another huge contribution to civilization by lovable Donald Rumsfeld.
 JWG86

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Posted: 8/21/2009 7:13:29 PM
Either eat sugar, or don't. Just my take on it.
 L_LuuLuu

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Posted: 8/22/2009 5:45:50 PM
Either eat sugar, or don't. Just my take on it.


Easy to say if you aren't a diabetic or -- like me -- a hypoglocemic who can NEVER have a dessert, or even fruit juice to drink. I work out faithfully (both weights and cardio) but just don't even HAVE a metabolism. I'm very active, but still have to eat CAREFULLY to mainatain my weight. I don't eat caffiene or processed junk foods wither. I crave sweets constantly, and my diet sodas are about the only treat I have left. Things are hard enough for some of us without "help" from the Nanny State Police!


It seems like every day there is a new FDA law to make MY life harder, while cigarettes and processed foods stay on the market. Now they are about to legalize drugs!

I agree that they shouldn't sneak aspartame into kids's foods -- but they also shouldn't load it up with refined sugars (and other addiitves) which also aren't good for them. Did you know that they can label 85% sugar/water as JUICE if it has 15% juice?

I also agree that those of us who can handle sugar should enjoy. But not ALL of us can.

 SLAFFA

Joined: 8/13/2007
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Posted: 8/22/2009 6:25:47 PM
Resting pulse of 42. I haven't been sick in 8 years. At all.

IF aspertame were really as BAD as some proclaim? I would have been dead long, long ago.

MY take is that drinking or smoking SHOULD be of a far greater concern. Too bad, they are NOT.

JMO
 MissaInVA

Joined: 5/4/2009
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Posted: 8/22/2009 6:51:42 PM
Are you people telling me that Diet Coke isn't a food group?
 L_LuuLuu

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Posted: 8/22/2009 7:47:07 PM
The sugar lobbys work over time against the artificial sweetner makers, so that sugar can monopolize the markets. It started back in the old days of sachrin. Massive doses (more than the rat weighs) of that stuff "gave rats cancer, too". But no proof it gives people cancer. Also no proof to the internet hoax that says aspartame "causes musclar distrophy".

The sugar sales people are already after Splenda, now, too.

After aspartame is off the market, something else will be invented to sweeten Diet Coke. But then the war will be back on to prove it "causes cancer", too.

If the sugar lobbys have their way, the obesity and diabetes epidemic will REALLY be through the roof.



 TheDao

Joined: 8/1/2009
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Posted: 8/22/2009 9:37:46 PM

I crave sweets constantly, and my diet sodas are about the only treat I have left. Things are hard enough for some of us without "help" from the Nanny State Police!



Aspartame contains MSG, which is known to cause in rats. In longer term it will do more damage than any good since it also can mess with your metabolism.

Fruits are great for diabetes since is high in fiber which slow releases of sugar. Of course there's nutrients also which sugars or diet sugar doesn't have.



So here we have individuals consuming no protein whatsoever, and yet they are eliminating proteins like crazy (not to mention many other things like stored toxins that are finally getting a chance to get dispersed and released.) What happens then? All sorts of good things that begin taking the body back to a natural balance. Blood pressures go back to normal, cholesterol levels drop, allergies dissipate, insulin resistance disappears. Yep, you read that right, diabetics can become un-diabetic. It is all possible when understanding the problem of excess protein storage which ultimately is understanding anionic and cationic influences. Excess stored cationic substances - proteins, toxins, salts (insulin is a salt) - when released through appropriate means, is exceedingly healthy and helps the body maintain balance.


http://www.biomedx.com/zeta/page6.html

It is possible to cure the disease with a natural doctor's help who knows about this diet.
 L_LuuLuu

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Posted: 8/23/2009 8:27:48 AM
Taekydon, that is very useful info for diabetics.

But I am a hypoglocemic. I have had reactive hypoglocemia since birth. It is not due to a pre-diabetic condition. It is also not treatable by Doc's, so I have to use diet, but certain amino acids help. It does cause sweet cravings in itself.

As a result, I stay away from starches, alchohol or caffeine (that make blood sugars rise, then drop dramatically).

I watch diet VERY closely because metabolism is very poor as a result of low blood sugar. I do eat some fresh fruit but do not drink juices as they are a waste of calories. Eating the fruit is more satisying, has more fiber and less calories than juice. Also some products labeled as "juice" are high sugar junk.

I try to use Steevia or Splenda over aspartme, but that is not always possible.

I feel that consumers have as much right to decide whether they need some artificial sweetners as smokers, and substance abusers have to decide what they need.
 Takmeaziam

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Posted: 8/23/2009 8:49:33 AM

It is possible to cure the disease with a natural doctor's help who knows about this diet.


I am in complete agreement with you, Taekkyeon. It boggles my mind, what humans will put into their bodies, and the excuses they will use. I have a life long friend, who is creating all types of drama right now in her life, as she is borderline Type ll diabetes. I suggested to her to switch to water, and walk 30 minutes a day for a month, and then be tested again. Her response: "I don't like the tasted of water, and then she said, you will never catch me exercising." ...she then later stated, "this is just what happens when you get older. It runs in my family."

Speechless....


T.
 mssdn

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Posted: 8/23/2009 1:48:40 PM
I agree Aspartame is not good for consumption by the human body. It's awful that all the sugarless gum sold on the commerical contain the substance. I once chewed quite a bit of gum which contained the man-made chemical. My experience was weight gain, incoherence, and loss of appetite. I found that whenever someone asked me a question I had to repeat the question 4-5 times before I understood what they were asking. After 3-5 minutes I could formulate and answer. I no longer chew gum for this reason. I discourage anyone from using the dumb down drug. If I am going to have sugar I use Stevia or white sugar. I know white sugar is bad for the body so I don't bother to use it too often because it to is a life shorter.
 Takmeaziam

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Posted: 8/23/2009 4:38:57 PM
Interesting you should say this mssdn:

If anyone clicked on the link I posted above, they would see that a children's pain remedy and a children's well known vitamin, both contain, aspartame. Those are just two.

I, myself, have never taken this chemical, but trust in what you say.

And honestly, how bad is white sugar, if used in moderation? Where as a chemical such as aspartame, in children's growing bodies?

It just makes me shudder....

T.
 MissaInVA

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Posted: 8/23/2009 7:08:14 PM
I wouldn't give aspartame to a child, but I'm not a child.... Give me Diet Coke and nobody has to die!


I am in complete agreement with you, Taekkyeon. It boggles my mind, what humans will put into their bodies, and the excuses they will use. I have a life long friend, who is creating all types of drama right now in her life, as she is borderline Type ll diabetes. I suggested to her to switch to water, and walk 30 minutes a day for a month, and then be tested again. Her response: "I don't like the tasted of water, and then she said, you will never catch me exercising." ...she then later stated, "this is just what happens when you get older. It runs in my family."


Wow! I think I have that same friend! She went to the doctor and her sugar was over 170. I felt like hell when mine went up to 104, which the doctor said was still within normal ranges. Anyway, I've suggested exercising to lose weight, and pointed out that there have been people who have reversed type II diabetes by losing weight. She won't do it because joining a gym costs money. She'll take a walk every couple of weeks and think she's done something. She hasn't modified her eating habits before. She's just resigned herself to becoming diabetic because "it runs in the family."
 Tarnished_Knight

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Posted: 8/24/2009 9:27:11 AM
I do not eat Aspartame!

Back in the late 80's, during the first year of marriage, wife drank "Crystal Lite" soft drink mix. I drank it too.

It turned out the CL acts on me like caffeine - it disrupts my sleep cycle. When I eliminated CL/Aspartame from my diet my sleep went back to normal.

Later, I had the same problem with generic fiber source: in addition to the psyllium husks, the manufacturers included Aspartame for sweetness - again my sleep was disrupted. (As an aside the orange flavoring used was also a sleep disrupter - weird!)

So now, all I use is plain, unsweetened, course, psyllium powder - does it's job with no unexpected side effects.

I don't drink diet drinks, I prefer honey in my coffee/tea, and have been a label reader for decades - did you know that they put Aspartame in Yoghurt! Sacrilege!

TK
{tsp of psyllium at night - just what the Doc ordered!}
 Edsta

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Posted: 8/24/2009 12:40:17 PM
Damn, I do love the taste of Diet Dr. Pepper. Regular soda tastes way too sugary for me.

Oh well, my usual can or two a month shouldn't be fatal...
 TheDao

Joined: 8/1/2009
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Posted: 8/24/2009 6:06:19 PM
Most diseases can be cured I truly believe that. One thing most people are lacking is enough sunlight exposure. People are scared to death about skin cancer. Skin cancer in fact is due to malnutrition. Consuming plenty of antioxidants foods is known to act as natural sunscreen. So eating broccoli prevents skin cancer. I try to get 30 minutes of sunlight exposure without sunscreen, hats or glasses. Remember you eyes need light exposure too. If you get enough sun light exposure your cravings for sugar will slowly disappear. It is common for people to watch the sunrise in the early morning without being scared of having damage to the eye.


I also use full spectrum light at my place, it helps me relax and have more energy.
 catjandbj

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Posted: 8/26/2009 9:00:08 PM
Not likely, especially considering the pitiful assertions of this article, although one should never underestimate the stupidity of government. There are over 200 hundred studies on this compound and the overwhelming evidence is that it is safe to consume, regardless of what the author of this piece would like to claim. Hinging your argument on a small number of studies in the face of a mountain of data is not science. There is nothing ever studied in history that has unanimous agreement, that is not how science works.

The author's claim that the components of aspartame are toxic is laughable. Aspartic acid and phenylalanine are amino acids found in virtually all proteins we consume and in far larger quantities than we ever get from diet products. And the methanol argument fools people because most have little knowledge of human biochemistry. We metabolize methanol constantly, since it is a by product of microbial fermentation in the intestinal tract and can be found in fruit juices. When are we going to demand the ban of orange juice because it contains methanol?

The Delaney Clause is a worthless piece of legislation that should be excised from the books, since it has no basis in science. It states that any ingredient in the food supply that can be shown to be carcinogenic in animal studies is to be banned. Vitamin C would have to be banned because of this. Sodium ascorbate (vitamin C) causes bladder tumors in mice, just like saccharin does. It is because we found out that some compounds are "species specific toxins" that we have saccharin back on the market today and why we don't consider banning vitamin C.

It is ironic though to see people rail against aspartame because of its alleged toxicity, while supporting Stevia, which itself has studies that show mutagenicity. But when you perceive the world as "organic=good" vs. "synthetic=bad" you can't let facts get in your way.
 TheDao

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Posted: 8/27/2009 5:28:53 AM
^^^^ Back your claims, there is no study to claim it to be safe. My friend's father is a retired chemistry professor would think it's lethal. Your claims are wishy washy crap, no proof at all. On by the way people recently treated with cancer in Canada are told to stay away from diet sugar! It is known to feed cancer! Now are you going to claim these surgeons are wrong too? LOL
 catjandbj

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Posted: 8/27/2009 6:49:21 AM

^^^^ Back your claims, there is no study to claim it to be safe.


I will present the sources right after you present your's, seeing as every assertion you made is nothing more than anecdotal evidence and stuff you pulled from your ass. And I expect scientific journals, not nutjob links that postulate conspiracy theories about Big Pharma and Donald Rumsfeld.


My friend's father is a retired chemistry professor would think it's lethal.


And your "friend's father" couldn't be wrong, huh? That of course is based on the expectation that he is not a figment of your imagination.


Your claims are wishy washy crap, no proof at all.


Well I guess I could spice up my posts by talking about "my friend's father" and unnamed Canadian doctors and other very credible sources of evidence.


On by the way people recently treated with cancer in Canada are told to stay away from diet sugar! It is known to feed cancer!


"Who" is telling cancer patients to stay away from "diet sugar"? "How" does "diet sugar" feed cancer? Post the sources for these claims and I will get right on showing you my references.


Now are you going to claim these surgeons are wrong too? LOL


They're wrong. Anything else?
 TheDao

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Posted: 8/27/2009 9:09:46 AM
That's funny you haven't provide no proof at all. That's because there is no term studies to prove it's safe.
Now you make fun of Canadians doctors? We have better cancer recovery rates than Americans. Results are a lot more than American BS.

AT least I provided some credible sources, yours is just all full of hot air.

Just like transfat believed to be safe for a long time now it is known and proven to be harmful, otherwise would some American cities ban it?
 catjandbj

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Posted: 8/27/2009 9:24:02 AM

That's funny you haven't provide no proof at all. That's because there is no term studies to prove it's safe.


Well I just don't want to break your trend of presenting unsupported assertions. Present your references and I'll get right on it. Otherwise, you're not worth the effort.


Now you make fun of Canadians doctors?


You mean the unreferenced "Canadian doctors" that you concocted in your head? Yeah, I made fun of them. Still waiting for the source that "Canadian doctors" warn their cancer patients against "diet sugar".


We have better cancer recovery rates than Americans. Results are a lot more than American BS.


No doubt some recovery rates are better, but not all. Still you haven't shown any evidence that this is related to warnings about aspartame. You're just trying to distract from the issue.


AT least I provided some credible sources, yours is just all full of hot air.


No, you presented one opinion piece, that was poorly supported and made numerous other unsupported assertions in this thread. Nothing "credible" to see.


Just like transfat believed to be safe for a long time now it is known and proven to be harmful, otherwise would some American cities ban it?


Care to tell us how "transfats" = the current discussion, or is this just another attempt to distract from your lack of evidence?
 Wiyan

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Posted: 9/7/2009 4:50:15 PM
yup-won't eat diet foods unless sweetened w/ xylitol or stevia!
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