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| Conservatives enraged over Obama school speech ... WHY???? Posted: 9/4/2009 5:07:13 PM | http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/04/obama.schools/
Conservatives enraged over Obama school speech (Excerpts from the online article)
The White House says President Obama's address next week to schoolchildren isn't a policy speech.
The White House said the address, set for Tuesday, and accompanying suggested lesson plans are simply meant to encourage students to study hard and stay in school. Isn't that good? Isn't that what parents/teachers/family should be doing? Why would that be wrong?
"Thinking about my kids in school having to listen to that just really upsets me," suburban Colorado mother Shanneen Barron told CNN Denver affiliate KMGH. "I'm an American. They are Americans, and I don't feel that's OK. I feel very scared to be in this country with our leadership right now." What would our children have heard four years ago? What did the previous president do to encourage the nation's children?
"The president of the United States has asked us to facilitate his outreach to students. And in that vein, we have decided to honor the request," Wong told CNN. "We'll trust in his judgment." WHEW!!! Thankfully some are not such wing nuts that there is still some sanity left out there.
Republican leaders have not shied away from the debate. Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, a possible contender for the GOP's 2012 presidential nomination, said Friday the classroom is no place to show a video address from Obama.
"At a minimum it's disruptive. Number two, it's uninvited.
Florida GOP Chairman Jim Greer released a statement this week accusing Obama of using taxpayer money to "indoctrinate" children. But it was fine for Bush, Sr. and Reagan to address the children of the nation?
Obama just wants to encourage them to study hard and stay in school. Bush, Sr. supposedly encouraged them to "say no to drugs" and work hard, so both Obama and Bush, Sr. are encouraging them to do good things ... right?
According to the article, it was Reagan who delivered a more politically charged statement ... something about taxes.
"As the father of four children, I am absolutely appalled that taxpayer dollars are being used to spread President Obama's socialist ideology," Greer said.
"The idea that school children across our nation will be forced to watch the president justify his plans ... is not only infuriating, but goes against beliefs of the majority of Americans, while bypassing American parents through an invasive abuse of power." Plans to encourage children to study hard and stay in school goes against beliefs of the majority of Americans?
"The goal of the speech and the lesson plans is to challenge students to work hard, stay in school and dramatically reduce the dropout rate," an administration spokesman said. "This isn't a policy speech. It's a speech designed to encourage kids to stay in school." Are Republicans opposed to encouraging children to stay in school and work hard?
What is going on in this nation?
Is this truly the Republican's way of actually "dumbing down" our nation? | |
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| Conservatives enraged over Obama school speech ... WHY???? Posted: 9/4/2009 5:32:08 PM | And the thing is, these are the very same people who decry the polarization in America.
If a Democrat is in the White House, there just isn't anything that's allowed to be nonpartisan.
And how anyone can think a moderate conservative like Obama is a socialist is beyond me. You guys really need a socialist party. Just so people know what socialism is. | |
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| Conservatives enraged over Obama school speech ... WHY???? Posted: 9/4/2009 5:56:19 PM | .
This is the 4th or 5th attempt...... Better vote to save....
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10582301/President-Obama%E2%80%99s-Address-to-Students-Across-America-September-8-2009
This is the REAL lesson plan... | |
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| Conservatives enraged over Obama school speech ... WHY???? Posted: 9/4/2009 7:38:17 PM | Parents can view a transcript of the speech Labor Day on whitehouse.gov before deciding whether to send their kids to school tuesday. I fail to see the problem. The ironic thing is that the kids in his own hometown won't even be awake because of the time difference. Personally I think youngsters would benefit a lot more if they were forced to watch back to back episodes of Family Guy. | |
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| Conservatives enraged over Obama school speech ... WHY???? Posted: 9/4/2009 9:11:18 PM | I don't think it's so much his speech ... I think it's the fact that our school system is ONLY based on the liberal agenda . And our children have become ...... as stupid as stupid can be ....
Dumbing...numbing ... our youth is apparent. We're fed up with it !! Why do you think ... home schooling is taking over ?? The enrollment rate in schools is dropping fast !!
Which means your schools .... are losing big ... $$$$...
Which is the REAL reason .... We are here !!!! | |
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| Conservatives enraged over Obama school speech ... WHY???? Posted: 9/4/2009 9:32:32 PM |
I don't think it's so much his speech ... I think it's the fact that our school system is ONLY based on the liberal agenda.
Whose schools do you mean? Cuz it ain't schools in Texas or Arkansas! Seriously, show me some evidence that "our school system is ONLY based on the liberal agenda." And anyway, what do you mean by that? That SOME schools still have managed to hold on to the right to teach real science? Or is it that they don't hold organized prayer meetings? What is it, specifically that you mean? Cuz I hear this all the time, but I've YET to see anyone explain what they mean by that in a way that REALLY points to a "Liberal" agenda, except insofar as some people see education itself as threatening to the NON-liberal agenda.
Please explain. | |
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| Conservatives enraged over Obama school speech ... WHY???? Posted: 9/4/2009 11:52:14 PM | They are terrified because some can't tell the difference between lies and truth, and others don't care.
Reagan and George Bush I both gave speeches to school children--how is that any different from President Obama giving a speech about being persistent and having goals? Is is wrong for the president to encourage American children to be successful in school?
Is it Socialist?
This is dumber than Death Panels. Way dumber than 'they're gonna kill Grandma'.
Seriously--the 'dumbing down of America' line begins over----->there----->.
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| Conservatives enraged over Obama school speech ... WHY???? Posted: 9/5/2009 5:58:35 AM | The President will talk directly to students across the country on the importance of taking responsibility for their education, challenging them to set goals and do everything they can to succeed.
From what I have seen, they are even offering classroom engagement resources specialized for various levels and eventually even a video contest. * Menu of classroom activities for students in grades preK-6 to stimulate discussion on the importance of education in students’ lives * Menu of classroom activities for students in grades 7-12 to stimulate discussion on the importance of education in students’ lives * A video contest for students will be launched soon - details will be available at http://www.ed.gov
I think it's the fact that our school system is ONLY based on the liberal agenda . And our children have become ...... as stupid as stupid can be .... How can that be? The so-called "LIBERALS" haven't been in power long enough to put anything like a "liberal-based agenda" in place (although it probably wouldn't be a bad idea).
If our youth are "as stupid as stupid can be" ... it must be because no child was left behind and they were forced to mimic "The High Functioning Moron" ... eh?
Dumbing...numbing ... our youth is apparent. We're fed up with it !! Then talk to the previous president ... he's the one that took our nation to war instead of educating our children. He's the one that split up the nation's families ... sending parents off to war instead of keeping them home to support and nurture their families.
Why do you think ... home schooling is taking over ?? In our town, home-schooling is done by radical religious wing nuts who can't afford to send their children to the so-called "Christian" schools.
My sister sent her children to a so-called "accredited Christian" school and then had to send them back to the public school an additional 2 years to get them caught up so they could actually get a high school diploma. The one that wanted to go to college that is. The other two were apparently not inspired to "better" themselves. (I guess the bible doesn't teach much of that stuff ... eh?)
The youngest was eventually too old to attend public school to get his high school diploma and ended up having to get his GED at an adult education learning center. Talk about the "dumbing, numbing" of our youth. Now that is a true example if ever I saw one.
How is anyone going to blame that on Obama and some sort of "Liberal agenda"? | |
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| Conservatives enraged over Obama school speech ... WHY???? Posted: 9/5/2009 6:01:40 AM | .
I wonder what the world thinks about this behavior?
IMO this is great, the nuttier they get the less they have to offer. Nothing to offer.
How about Wed before congress....
This just sounds so TODAY..........................
We had to struggle with the old enemies of peace‹business and financial monopoly, speculation, reckless banking, class antagonism, sectionalism, war profiteering.
They had begun to consider the Government of the United States as a mere appendage to their own affairs. We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob.
Never before in all our history have these forces been so united against one candidate as they stand today. They are unanimous in their hate for me‹and I welcome their hatred.
I should like to have it said of my first Administration that in it the forces of selfishness and of lust for power met their match. I should like to have it said of my second Administration that in it these forces met their master.
FDR 1936
TPM
Florida GOP Chair Jim Greer. Greer put out a press release in advance of the talk that might encourage some parents to lock the doors and spend the opening day of school in a basement fallout shelter
“As the father of four children, I am absolutely appalled that taxpayer dollars are being used to spread President Obama’s socialist ideology. The idea that school children across our nation will be forced to watch the President justify his plans for government-run health care, banks, and automobile companies, increasing taxes on those who create jobs, and racking up more debt than any other President, is not only infuriating, but goes against beliefs of the majority of Americans, while bypassing American parents through an invasive abuse of power.
The address scheduled for September 8, 2009, does not allow for healthy debate on the President’s agenda, but rather obligates the youngest children in our public school system to agree with our President’s initiatives or be ostracized by their teachers and classmates.
Florida GOP Chair:
“Pied Piper Obama” In Classroom “Usurp[s] Our rights” September 4th, 2009, 11:00 AM EDT
Sure, Chairman Greer. For healthy debate we need to go to those nicely run beautifully appointed town hall meetings.
“Public schools can’t teach children to speak out in support of the sanctity of human life or traditional marriage. President Obama and the Democrats wouldn’t dream of allowing prayer in school. Christmas Parties are now Holiday Parties. But, the Democrats have no problem going against the majority of American people and usurping the rights of parents by sending Pied Piper Obama into the American classroom.
Oh, so if a president went into a classroom and railed against a woman’s right to choose and slammed gays for getting married, that would be an acceptable agenda, and wouldn’t be spreading ideology, correct Mr. Greer? Certainly if you don’t want a president in the classroom, that would apply to all presidents, correct?
Some school districts in Texas, Illinois, Minnesota, Missouri, Virginia and Wisconsin, among other states, have decided not to show President Obama's televised speech to students next week, the Associated Press reports. Others are still thinking it over or are letting parents have their kids opt out.
Some conservatives, driven by radio pundits and bloggers, are urging schools and parents to boycott the address, the AP says. Their complaint is that Obama is using the opportunity to promote a political agenda and is overstepping the boundaries of federal involvement in schools.
"As far as I am concerned, this is not civics education — it gives the appearance of creating a cult of personality," says Oklahoma Republican state Sen. Steve Russell. "This is something you'd expect to see in North Korea or in Saddam Hussein's Iraq."
Texas Gov. Rick Perry, a Republican, issued this statement, the Austin American-Statesman reports: “While President Obama talking directly to school children could be a memorable moment in their young lives, I am troubled that local school boards and superintendents were not involved in the process ... I hope schools will provide a suitable alternative for students not participating in this event. I also hope that this is not an indication of the federal government further encroaching on states’ authority over education.”
Arizona state schools superintendent Tom Horne, a Republican, said lesson plans for teachers created by Obama's Education Department "call for a worshipful rather than critical approach."
The White House plans to release the speech online Monday so parents can read it, the AP says. The president will deliver the speech at Wakefield High School in Arlington, Va.
The Dallas Morning News, and many other papers, note that President George H.W. Bush in 1991 gave a similar live speech on education, in which he said, "What's so great about being stupid?". While it did not provoke calls for boycotts, Democrats did complain about spending $28,000 in Department of Education money for a TV crew to handle the event.
Lamar Alexander, then secretary of education and now a Republican senator from Tennessee, defending the expenditures at a congressional hearing, said: "We don't send messages by smoke signals anymore. ... We do it by microphone and camera."
"The president's speech next week is a perfect example of 'a good idea gone astray,' " Prescott, Ariz., Superintendent Kevin Kapp wrote on the district's website, The Arizona Republic reports. "After reviewing the materials associated with the speech, (Prescott schools) will not televise the speech or broadcast it via computers."
Superintendent James Murlless of the Queen Creek, Ariz., Unified School District recommended his district "not take the time right now" to show the speech. "This whole speech idea of President Obama's to the school children, while well intended, seemingly may have a political overtone to it," Murlless said in an e-mail, the Gilbert Tribune, shown above, reports. "While on first blush, urging kids to stay in school, is good, I think this speech would better serve children in their own homes under the supervision of their parents."
Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, a Republican, tells WCCO-AM radio today that showing the address during school time in the morning could be disruptive and raises concerns "about the content and the motive." He also said that the speech is "uninvited."
"While on first blush, urging kids to stay in school, is good, I think this speech would better serve children in their own homes under the supervision of their parents."
Deep thinking.................... | |
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| Conservatives enraged over Obama school speech ... WHY???? Posted: 9/5/2009 8:02:29 AM | | I don't care if my kids hear it or not, they're old enough to discuss it with me. Do I think it will be disruptive....yes. The speech is planned for the first day of school here, which for the HS consists of abbreviated classes and lost students trying to find their way to class, same with the Middle School. All schools only have a half day that day, which doesn't leave much time for teachers to follow any sort of lesson plan that was previously posted, they'll be lucky to have enough time to hand out books and go over classroom rules. Obama's heart may be in the right place but the whole thing was not very well thought out. | |
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| Conservatives enraged over Obama school speech ... WHY???? Posted: 9/5/2009 8:46:28 AM | I appreciate your agreeing to it but think its odd that on your first day of school the president of the United States talks to your kids ,and you think thats somehow disruptive when its actually such an honor.I remember on opening day of the Spokane Washingtons World Expostition 1974 in the Opening ceremonies President Nixon spoke to all of us.I would of found it odd if we thought how disruptive it was for him to speak for 20 minutes on such a world event that he was somehow keeping us from the first day events.Even as a president that was sliding in favor our city was extremely honored that the president took time out of his busy schedule honor us by speaking to us in our city.He was the president of the United States.Its sad when the patriotism level in this country gets to where a president is a nuisance rather than an honor,when somehow it would have been better time spent to have had the principal or teacher speak to the kids rather than the leader of the free world.
As for the others that protest him speaking period,well that's pathetic and if you possibly tried ,do you think you could be anymore unAmerican ,and lack any more patriotism as you currently are . | |
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| Conservatives enraged over Obama school speech ... WHY???? Posted: 9/5/2009 9:47:45 AM | No matter what is done someone will say something against it because we are a nation of free speech. We all have to have our say and even if it is total bonk both sides of a story must be covered by the media and the one people spark to the most is the one that will get the most attention. There is nothing in my mind that says the president should not be able to launch his education push with the students as it is the students that are in need of education. He is like all parents wanting the best for our future and he asked all Americans to commit to extending their education. "...Bush also delivered a nationally broadcast address to students (excerpts): "Thank you, Ms. Mostoller, and thanks for allowing me to visit your classroom to talk to you and all these students, and millions more in classrooms all across the country." "Write me a letter -- and I'm serious about this one -- write me a letter about ways you can help us achieve our goals. I think you know the address." "Note: The President spoke at 12:15 p.m. in a classroom at the school. His remarks were broadcast live by the Cable News Network, the Public Broadcasting System, the Mutual Broadcasting System, and the NBC radio network." http://bushlibrary.tamu.edu/research/public_papers.php?id=3450 "
The school system of the 50's was constrictive and build on only two types of intelligence and one culture all others were left out and it was very bad in most places. The people of the 60's did their best to bring that educational system to its knees but did not have a clue or plan for how to put a new one in place. The people of the 70's tried hard to bankrupt it thinking of the money they should've put into the educational system that they withheld makes me sick. They even talked about not having taxes but volunteer contributions for school funding. The 80's generation (Obama and all of us in our 40's)is just now old enough to start doing something to right the wrongs.
We have to educate our young people and accept them. I think having a smart kid scares some people. | |
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| Conservatives enraged over Obama school speech ... WHY???? Posted: 9/5/2009 9:56:14 AM |
I appreciate your agreeing to it but think its odd that on your first day of school the president of the United States talks to your kids ,and you think thats somehow disruptive when its actually such an honor.I remember on opening day of the Spokane Washingtons World Expostition 1974 in the Opening ceremonies President Nixon spoke to all of us.I would of found it odd if we thought how disruptive it was for him to speak for 20 minutes on such a world event that he was somehow keeping us from the first day events.Even as a president that was sliding in favor our city was extremely honored that the president took time out of his busy schedule honor us by speaking to us in our city.He was the president of the United States.Its sad when the patriotism level in this country gets to where a president is a nuisance rather than an honor,when somehow it would have been better time spent to have had the principal or teacher speak to the kids rather than the leader of the free world.
It’s not as odd as you think, these kids will be in class for 2 1/2 hours on Tuesday. In that 2 ½ hours that they have in school, they will have to attend 7 classes to get their books, syllabus and classroom rules. The incoming Freshman aren’t going to give a rat’s a$$ about a speech because they’re going to be to busy figuring out how to get from Building A to Building C in the allotted 5 minutes between classes, or just wondering where the heck Building C is… The 2nd, 3rd & 4th year students will spend more time huddled with friends and acquaintances to see how close everyone’s locker assignment is to scheduled classes so the can stash books in those lockers so they don’t have to carry around the entire day’s worth of books AND make it to class on time. They are not going to care overly much what Obama has to say on Tuesday, they’ll be making sure they don’t end up with detentions throughout the year. I’m sure we’re not the only school district in Michigan or the US that will have a short first day, like I said….it was not well thought out. | |
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| Conservatives enraged over Obama school speech ... WHY???? Posted: 9/5/2009 10:57:20 AM |
I don't care if my kids hear it or not, they're old enough to discuss it with me. What's to discuss? Okay ... I suppose one might want to eventually discuss the the projects that might evolve from the speech ... about setting goals, staying in school, pushing ones self to do well.
Do I think it will be disruptive....yes. So far, as is apparent on the Internet ... it appears only those who are opposed to a good education (apparently in favor of the "dumbing down of the US") are opposed to the speech and the timing of it.
I seriously doubt that any student will find it disruptive. I do believe that if the parents go about preaching (prior to the speech) about it being disruptive ... then the students might be influenced to believe it is disruptive.
As one poster put it ...
Its sad when the patriotism level in this country gets to where a president is a nuisance rather than an honor,when somehow it would have been better time spent to have had the principal or teacher speak to the kids rather than the leader of the free world. Sad indeed ... when all he really wants is the same as he was offered ... encouragement to stay in school, set goals for himself and endeavor to do well.
As for the others that protest him speaking period,well that's pathetic and if you possibly tried ,do you think you could be anymore unAmerican ,and lack any more patriotism as you currently are . Ahhhh ... but those are the people who actually believe they are the true patriots and we so-called "liberals" are "unAmerican and unpatriotic".
It simply amazes me that people consider that a disruption ... a brilliant man who had a lot of tough breaks in his life and still managed to do well for himself ... becoming the President of the United States ... is going to encourage the children of our nation to stay in school, set goals for themself and endeavor to do well ... and that is somehow bad?
There are a lot of children in this country who should be so lucky to have such a man as a father ... interested in their best interest so much that they get the encouragement he might have to offer. | |
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| Conservatives enraged over Obama school speech ... WHY???? Posted: 9/5/2009 11:34:58 AM | All that you explained to me is how the students priorities are wrong,its as if some adults think the children are old enough to decide whats good for them or not,they are still under age and if they had to be forced to sit and watch in the auditorium and hear the mandatory message from the leader of the free world then so be it,you can bet if the lowly principal wanted to speak in the auditorium they would have to come,atleast they should have too.
I think parents need to be parents,we would have a lot less gang members if parents did not allow there school children out and if the were actually parents and made sure their kids were in bed and rested for school.Bottom line its not the choice of a little kid to decide on whether he wants to listen or not,thats the teachers,principles and parents obligation.Many of our adults sound as though they feel a child can run his own day,make his own decisions,Hey if he over 18,more power to him.
When we changed over to kids can be their own bosses,treat them like adults,we as a country lost control,now we have these mouthy little 13 year old, heck mouthy little 7 year olds,thinking they have the right to put us in what they think is our place.This topic and almost any other problem we have with young children once again goes directly to the parents who feel they don't need the be a parent,kids cannot be blamed for making poor decisions when already to do all the thinking themselves,it takes wisdom which comes with years of experience,hence the parents duty.Kind of hard to be in a gang when you have a 9pm bedtime,hard to not hear a speech when its required in the auditorium and if not there your in big trouble starting with detention,also hard to be the boss when you have an actual parent. | |
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| Conservatives enraged over Obama school speech ... WHY???? Posted: 9/5/2009 4:04:13 PM |
What's to discuss? Okay ... I suppose one might want to eventually discuss the the projects that might evolve from the speech ... about setting goals, staying in school, pushing ones self to do well.
I already do that, but it seems in your opinion I should let them hear it and discuss it with friends or other people and get any information from them, even if its misinformation. You may be ok with that, but I am not.
it appears only those who are opposed to a good education (apparently in favor of the "dumbing down of the US") are opposed to the speech and the timing of it.
So you’re saying because the first day of school can be a little chaotic for students and I know this that I’m in favor of ‘dumbing down’ my kids? I wonder what size high school you attended? Possibly not one that covered 3 city blocks and is 3 stories tall.
Reality is, if this speech is ‘so important’ to deliver to the students, it could have waited a few days.
lowly principal wanted to speak in the auditorium they would have to come,atleast they should have too.
None of the ‘lowly’ Principles at the school my children attend would be stupid enough to mandate an assembly on the first day of school, nor would they have time for one. | |
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| Conservatives enraged over Obama school speech ... WHY???? Posted: 9/5/2009 4:21:33 PM | Our schools here started two weeks ago,yours is ready to start,and in Oregon they start in two weeks,so its unfortunate that your school will have bad timing in play,he cannot please everybody.
Still its an honor to have the kids have the leader of the free world speak to them,and I went to a high school that had 1400 students and we were never to busy on a first day to hear a speech,heck thats all the day is,teachers saying hello,telling you whats going on tomorrow and the faculty welcoming you and this time the president in the loop,the day is one of the easiest days of the year,it ranks with the last 3-4 days of the school year.Kids are way more limber than you give them credit for,still its hard to imagine a American citizen feeling that an interruption in ones busy day from a president is bad rather than great.Hope you don't express this hassle for you to your kids,don't warp their thrill.But if you tell them its a nothing, then your teaching them a president isn't worth their attention under any timing situation. | |
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| Conservatives enraged over Obama school speech ... WHY???? Posted: 9/5/2009 6:02:32 PM | I liked the way John Harwood spoke about this.
"If people don't want their kids exposed to the president telling them to work hard at their studies and stay in school they are just stupid. Frankly it makes me worry that they are too stupid to be raising kids"!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXq5keti0Cs
Now if we could only get the White House to talk like this to the birthers, the deathers, the entire crazy right wing. | |
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| Conservatives enraged over Obama school speech ... WHY???? Posted: 9/5/2009 7:24:28 PM |
Our schools here started two weeks ago,yours is ready to start,and in Oregon they start in two weeks,so its unfortunate that your school will have bad timing in play,he cannot please everybody.
Almost every school district in the nation is different as to when their first day of school will be. Personally I know of some that started as early as two weeks ago, one week ago, a couple of days ago, while some are just getting ready to start sometime after Labor Day(Tues, Wed, Thurs and/or Fri). In a 150 mile radius almost all these First Day of School measures is or has happened. (I'm talking Oregon and Washington areas.).
I think that Obama should be allowed to speak to the children, but maybe leave out the Kinders to about 3rd grade. If not he will be speaking down to the kids in middle school and high school or have an audience of very restless kids getting absolutely nothing from it.
If it is the first day of school it will probably be very ineffective at any grade level. First day of school is usually quite chaotic in almost any school without trying to schedule a time slot for a speech.
I think that the lesson plans should be up to each individual school district and/or teacher not the Obama administration. That is probably where some of the conflict is coming from. Many do not like the idea of a Direct Lesson Plan from the Obama administration.
Parents should also be allowed to either have the discretion of choosing to have their child not view the speech or be able to view it with their child. JMHO | |
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| Conservatives enraged over Obama school speech ... WHY???? Posted: 9/5/2009 8:43:19 PM |
My sister sent her children to a so-called "accredited Christian" school and then had to send them back to the public school an additional 2 years to get them caught up so they could actually get a high school diploma. The one that wanted to go to college that is. The other two were apparently not inspired to "better" themselves. (I guess the bible doesn't teach much of that stuff ... eh?)
Well, I can't speak for all of them, but when I switched from an accredited Christian school to the Dayton (Ohio) public school system, they stuff they were teaching in the 10th grade was stuff I'd learned in the 7th & 8th grade.
And most other people I speak with say the same thing. The standards are much higher in most parochial schools. | |
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| Conservatives enraged over Obama school speech ... WHY???? Posted: 9/5/2009 8:53:30 PM |
I think that the lesson plans should be up to each individual school district and/or teacher not the Obama administration. That is probably where some of the conflict is coming from. Many do not like the idea of a Direct Lesson Plan from the Obama administration.
First--the president does not dictate lesson plans.
Second--the list of activities from the DOE is filled with the word 'goals'--not a bad way to begin a new school year.
Third--the list of activities is similar to those things that teachers already do in their classes when they have a guest speaker. Nothing subversive there.
Fourth--OF COURSE the lesson plans are up to the individual teacher--the list from the DOE contains SUGGESTIONS for students--it is not an edict from the president.
Fifth--Does anyone even remember when Bush I spoke to the students of the United States? Does anyone remember when Reagan spoke to them?
Why is this such a massive heart-attack-producing event for some people? | |
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| Conservatives enraged over Obama school speech ... WHY???? Posted: 9/5/2009 9:34:13 PM | Thank you geeleebee,I just don't get it either,its a pep talk from the president of the United States,sure we have freedom of choice,but how about national pride,and not to put words in your mouth but each day I feel more and more proud to be what I seem to be called anymore,a liberal,used to just think I was an American, everyone calls me a treehugging liberal,as if treehugging,rather,being concerned with our environment/nature is bad,as if they are trying to insult me,lol,It's starting to seem like liberal is a badge of honor,kind of like we're the ones that are the most interested in our planets health,our planets direction and "all" of our citizens,oh my,even the the so called free loading poor and destitute .Its only been about a year or two since I was routinely bashed for saying we are having global warming,why are you not listening to the scientific facts people,that got the treehugging liberal insults coming my way every day on the forums. Now Global warming is a worldwide accepted fact.It was obvious that some day even the asleep ones would wake up !
Would a pep talk about trying hard and setting goals ,setting a high bar,be so terrible that parents need to decide if they want to subject their kids to talk like that.Its completely illogical ! Its not rational ! | |
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| Conservatives enraged over Obama school speech ... WHY???? Posted: 9/5/2009 10:07:25 PM |
Fifth--Does anyone even remember when Bush I spoke to the students of the United States? Does anyone remember when Reagan spoke to them? Why is this such a massive heart-attack-producing event for some people?
Thats why I feel its a good idea with some the of minor possible exceptions as noted in my previous post.
As to the lesson plans this is what has been send out from the Obama administration. Obama has send out set scripted type lesson plans for the speech with specific area and question he wants the school/teacher to touch on. In fact it is very much what they call in education a direct instruction type lesson plan . Direct instruction lesson plan means that it's a scripted type lesson plan you say/ask this. This is the area of the most contention | |
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