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Posted: 9/11/2009 8:05:56 PM | Say what people will about Michael Moore's politics, he is a brilliant film maker and IMHO has been the biggest push behind finding out the truth behind invading Iraq (Fahrenheit 9/11) and pushing health care reform (Sicko).
I can't wait for his new movie!
Here's the trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhydyxRjujU
Go Michael! | |
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Posted: 9/12/2009 6:12:10 PM | | I appreciate Michael Moore bringing light to such issues as health care. I look forward to seeing this latest documentary about capitalism. | |
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Posted: 9/12/2009 8:54:06 PM | | What happened to all the previous comments on this topic? Poof all gone now? | |
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Posted: 9/12/2009 10:44:43 PM |
I appreciate Michael Moore bringing light to such issues as health care. I look forward to seeing this latest documentary about capitalism
Ya, that Michael Moore is a great guy. I really enjoyed his movie SICk-O, too. Morre is completely honest at all times about the horrors of capitalism, opposed ot the advanced lifestyles of communist controlled third world nations like Cuba.
He had some nice pics of Cuban hospitals on his movies. These hospitals were for the wealthy (governing class) and for tourists.
Here are some pictures of hospitals for the working class, and reviews of the hospitals by persons who have actually had the privilege of using them. What a bunch of ungrateful dissidents! I do wish they would all quit swimming over here on those little rafts and all. They should go home and appreciate the opulent lifestyle that Cubans have come to enjoy under Fidel Castro. I have no idea why they would want to live in a comparative t dump like capitalist America.
Also note (from pics) that through the Cuban hospital system, the problem of obesity has virtually been eradicated!
http://images.google.com/images?sourceid=navclient&rlz=1T4ADBR_enUS320US320&q=pictures+of+cuban+hospitals&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=C4OsSoWRB4jbjQfzs4TYBw&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1
http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/004070.php
http://www.babalublog.com/archives/001470.html | |
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Posted: 9/13/2009 5:21:20 PM | This guy truly lives in his own reality. The way he twists 2+2 to equal 12 is really something to behold.
His argument for banning guns is that if you own a firearm, it is likely to be stolen and resold on the streets where it will likely kill a black person. So if you own a gun, you are being irresponsible and promoting racial violence. Nowhere does he hold the person stealing your gun accountable, nor the person purchasing it on the street, nor the person using it to kill someone. You are the bad person for purchasing it legally.
This guy completely undermines the good points made by rational liberal thinking people and makes his whole cause look like a parody of itself. The fact that anyone over college age actually takes this guy seriously is sad to me. | |
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Posted: 9/13/2009 5:46:57 PM | His argument for banning guns is that if you own a firearm, it is likely to be stolen and resold on the streets where it will likely kill a black person. So if you own a gun, you are being irresponsible and promoting racial violence. Nowhere does he hold the person stealing your gun accountable, nor the person purchasing it on the street, nor the person using it to kill someone. You are the bad person for purchasing it legally.
I own "Bowling for Columbine", his film about gun control, that you are attempting to reference here and I can tell you that no such argument is made. Maybe you should actually watch the film - you might even like it. | |
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Posted: 9/16/2009 7:20:47 PM | I wasn't referencing Bowling For Columbine (although I have seen it..... and it was garbage). I was referencing a book of his.
Although, while we're on the subject of Bowling for Columbine, to further illustrate how much Mr. Moore enjoys spinning things to fit his agenda, it's awfully interesting how his clever little "Americans are scared of everything" cartoon (done with South Park style animation) was included shortly after the scene with his interview with South Park creator Matt Stone. In doing this, many viewers were mislead into thinking that the creators of South Park contributed that cartoon to the movie to show that they agree with his assanine opinion.
The truth, in fact, was that Matt Stone and Trey Parker didn't make the cartoon and were offended by this clever little edit job. But hey, whatever tricks the people into believing what you're selling, right? Afterall, South Park has a lot of viewers.
If you're interested in a counterpoint to Bowling For Columbine as well as many of Moore's other less-than-factual views, I recommend a book called Michael Moore Is a Big Fat Stupid White Man by David T. Hardy and Jason Clarke (the title is a parody of Moore's book Stupid White Men). Inside, Hardy and Clarke do a pretty extensive job of exposing how inaccurate a lot of Moore's claims actually are.
It's an interesting read. | |
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Posted: 9/16/2009 7:54:50 PM | I saw him on Jay Leno last night and loved it. He had some very good things to say. I can't wait for the film to come out.
I just had a client this evening who is working as a legal assistant in a law practice that mostly handles bankruptcies. She said that 60% of bankruptcies in the U.S. are due to medical bills.
Although there is some disagreement about the exact numbers (Moore said the top 1% of the population controlled 90% of the wealth) there's no dispute that our country has become more stratified. The middle class has shrunk, the numbers of people at the bottom are growing. and a smaller percentage of the population controls an ever greater percentage of the wealth. Even more conservative estimates put the top 1% controlling almost half the wealth. Contrast this to 1970 when the top 1% of the population controlled about 13% of the wealth.
This is *not* healthy.
BTW, though I wouldn't want to live in Cuba, poor as the are they do provide health care for all their citizens and their infant mortality rate is lower than some parts of the U.S. | |
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Posted: 9/16/2009 7:58:27 PM | | That does not surprize me arwen. I worked at a huge county trauma center for 20 years. They slapped liens on the propertys of the poor that could not pay. D.C.H.D. owns alot of Dallas if only on paper at this time. | |
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Posted: 9/16/2009 9:34:03 PM | after seeing him on Leno last night I'd like to see the movie. I only saw bowling for columbine. I didn't care about Sicko and never made a point of seeing the other. This one i wouldn't mind seeing though.
He's lost quite a bit of weight too, and still working on it. good for him. | |
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Posted: 9/16/2009 10:34:39 PM | What's going on?... This thread was active a few days ago, with several replies; then suddenly, with the exception of the original post, all responses disafvckingpeared...
I don't suspect the mods... Must be hackers conducting "Surgical strikes"...
I own "Bowling for Columbine", his film about gun control, that you are attempting to reference here and I can tell you that no such argument is made. Maybe you should actually watch the film - you might even like it.
My last response to this thread vanished into the land of lost socks; but the point I was attempting to make was that as talented as Moore is in conducting his politico- guerrilla theater; he takes unnecessary cheap shots which only blemish what might have otherwise been a reasonable film...
His assault on Charlton Heston was, in my opinion, inexcusable... Not that I was ever a fan of Heston's work or ideologies; I simply considered him a movie star as opposed to an accomplished actor...
But when Moore started wheedling and cajoling the man in an attempt to get him to apologize for something for which he was entirely not responsible; it only served to make the fat man appear rather pathetic...
Had Chuck been in possession of all his faculties at the time of the interview, I've no doubt he'd have parried Moore's feeble thrusts with logic and reason, laughed heartily, and given Mikey a free case of single malt scotch before having him escorted off the premises...
But the sad truth is that Mr. Heston was at the time already deeply in the grip of Alzheimers... And Moore knew it... And that makes him a chicken-shit...
He's tolerable when he sticks to humor... Attempts at pathos do not suit him well at all; and only serve to make him look foolish...
If you have any doubts, then maybe you should actually watch the film... | |
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Posted: 9/21/2009 7:32:59 PM | Wait til this hits. It's going to be like a hurricane.
From what I understand, he breaks it down so that ordinary people can understand what Wall St. has done to this country.
The title is unfortunate, because the real criticism is not against capitalism itself, but against a plutocracy that engages in a nasty form of gangster capitalism. Capitalism with the proper regulations actually works. They (Wall St. lobbyists) gutted all of the post Depression regulations that serves us so well for over 70 years. Not too swift.
I truly hope that this movie will activate people to go out into the streets and show that we still have some fire and we're not beaten yet.
It's time for indictments, perp walks, new laws, and a new start.... | |
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Posted: 9/21/2009 8:22:45 PM |
I truly hope that this movie will activate people to go out into the streets and show that we still have some fire and we're not beaten yet.
Umm, 'people' are already 'activated'...have been 'going out into the streets' since April 15th to 'show that we still have some fire'...
I went to High School with Moore (he graduated a couple years ahead of me) and he was the same anti-establishment crusader back then. If you want to learn about his early pens, google The Flint Voice circa late 70's to mid 80's.
I'm certain once this movie closes, he will donate all of the profits from it to feed the hungry and insure the infirmed...lest he accumulate wealth that lurches him closer to that top 1% echelon...yeah, right...and I've got some domestic, oil-laden land that Obama will let you drill on for sale.
~ds~ | |
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Posted: 9/21/2009 8:34:27 PM | ^^^ LOL..I suppose we can still appreciate his creative ability to amass a following. Mr. Moore has been able to tap into an unending source of revenue because he advocates an opinion that many of his compatriots believe in.
Maybe his next film will examine how he's personally benefited from the fruits of capitalism. | |
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Posted: 9/22/2009 3:11:20 AM |
But the sad truth is that Mr. Heston was at the time already deeply in the grip of Alzheimers... And Moore knew it... And that makes him a chicken-shit...
At the time of the interview, Heston was president of the NRA. | |
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Posted: 9/22/2009 3:16:25 AM |
But the sad truth is that Mr. Heston was at the time already deeply in the grip of Alzheimers... And Moore knew it... And that makes him a chicken-shit... At the time of the interview, Heston was president of the NRA.
So the president of the NRA had Alzheimers? That explains a lot. | |
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Posted: 9/22/2009 5:56:35 AM | Go to rotten tomatoes....the reviews so far 100%.
I think it's going to be good. | |
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Posted: 9/22/2009 9:35:11 AM | Maybe his next film will examine how he's personally benefited from the fruits of capitalism
great point!! funny how that works right, a person gains from a country and then does nothing but bash it. just seems odd to me. if the guy doesnt like this country so much, why doesnt he leave? last question if he thinks cuba has such a great healthcare system why doesnt he go there and get taken care of? wonder why that is? | |
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Posted: 9/22/2009 9:47:44 AM | Thank you for the link!!
I do enjoy listening to Michael Moore...
Cherie xx | |
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Posted: 9/22/2009 10:27:03 AM | | Michael Moore did his best work in the movie titled, "An American Carol". | |
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Posted: 9/22/2009 1:10:59 PM | | i think michael moores best work is going to be called " his death" lets hope we get to see that soon,lol | |
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Posted: 9/22/2009 1:28:22 PM |
great point!! funny how that works right, a person gains from a country and then does nothing but bash it. just seems odd to me. if the guy doesnt like this country so much, why doesnt he leave? last question if he thinks cuba has such a great healthcare system why doesnt he go there and get taken care of? wonder why that is
Answer #1 because there are some of us that love our country so much we want to make it better. Kinda the same reasoning that if you have a child and it does something wrong, you scold them and explain to them the correct path - you don't just abandon them on the side of the road.
Answer #2 because it's illegal for Americans to go to Cuba for health care. | |
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Posted: 9/22/2009 4:43:16 PM | I'm baffled that people would not want to know and hear about how our government gave away trillions of dollars to Wall St. scum.
I'm not a big fan of Moore, but in this instance he is doing a great public service.
Truly, if people understood what has been done to our economy, there would be riots in the streets. Since the shenanigans were so complicated, most people prefer not to think about it. | |
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Posted: 9/22/2009 4:58:39 PM |
Maybe his next film will examine how he's personally benefited from the fruits of capitalism.
He did an interview view with Jian Ghomeshi on the CBC last week and they actually touched on that subject.
His point was yes he now makes good money and can make pretty much any movie he wants to, then he alludes to the fact that he thinks he should be taxed more because of his income.
It is about 1/2 way through the interview when the subject is brought up.
http://podcast.cbc.ca/mp3/qpodcast_20090916_20288.mp3 | |
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