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Posted: 9/18/2009 12:44:33 PM | Today I read two reports on strange animals. One was a "snake" with a claw (like a lizard, which is what I actually suspect--legless lizard, not leg-ful snake). The other was some strange beast in S America (hairless sloth?).
The part about the stories that irks me: both animals were killed. Here are two weird and wonderful animals, and the first thought is to KILL them?! WTF?!
I guess my question is, do you think that is the best way to handle "strange beasts"? | |
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Posted: 9/18/2009 1:25:09 PM | Of course not!!! Gil Grissom would be appalled, and so am I
Stupid fart knockers
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Posted: 9/18/2009 1:39:55 PM | | this is a tough call,,,,,,,almost everything we know about animals comes from studying specimens.............i'm sure it was preferrable to capture them alive......but maybe it wasnt practicl?........i agree that sensless killing is wrong...but like i said..this is a tough call | |
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Posted: 9/18/2009 3:40:42 PM | I have been looking for bigfoot since I was a kid. Probably just a myth, but its fun to imagine. I spend a lot of time in the woods and hunting, but the last thing I would do is shoot him. Might even hurt myself trying to dig a camera out of my truck.
Caught a cool looking spider one time in a briar patch. Couldn't find anyone that new how to identify it, so I let it go. Went as far to buy a book on spiders, but the danged thing weren't in there. | |
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Posted: 9/18/2009 3:51:25 PM | Were the animals healthy?
Normally when I hear of some very rare animal find, the animal in question is taken to a place where it can be kept safe and studied. Like for example, a yellow lobster. Perhaps the persons who discovered these animals, hastily acted on instinct and killed it because it looked grossly unfamiliar to them. :( | |
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Posted: 9/18/2009 4:10:05 PM | | Maybe they killed them so they could dissect them and see if there's any new information they can use by studying their anatomy. | |
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Posted: 9/18/2009 4:32:21 PM |
guess my question is, do you think that is the best way to handle "strange beasts"?
Dean Qiongxiu, 66, said she discovered the reptile clinging to the wall of her bedroom with its talons in the middle of the night.
"I woke up and heard a strange scratching sound. I turned on the light and saw this monster working its way along the wall using his claw," said Mrs Duan of Suining, southwest China.
Mrs Duan said she was so scared she grabbed a shoe and beat the snake to death before preserving its body in a bottle of alcohol.
http://www.geekologie.com/2009/09/snake_with_foot_found_killed_i.php
I would say most people would have done the same thing.
Not sure about the sloth, do you have a link to the story? | |
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Posted: 9/18/2009 4:49:01 PM | Your post reminds me of what I saw occur just a few months ago. I arrived at a friends house to see a few people gathered at the side of her neighbor's house. One woman had a shovel and was flailing away at the ground while everyone else looked on.
I knew the neighbor casually and joined in to ask what was going on? He told me that a HUGE lizard was hiding and no one knew what it was. Just then it darted from one hiding place and sought out another as this shovel wielding woman struck at the ground again and again.
It's a skink I told them, leave the damn thing alone, he's harmless. They all looked at me with an expression of "Are you sure?" After I assured them that it was totally harmless they told me why they were trying to kill it.
It was bigger than any lizard we have ever seen. (Different)
It was brightly colored, never saw anything like it before. (Different)
We were scared because we didn't know what it was. (Ignorance)
Unfortunately, the first thought of many is to kill what is unknown, not to find out what is known or can be learned.
I would say most people would have done the same thing. I rest my case! | |
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Posted: 9/18/2009 6:28:14 PM | People fear what they do not understand.
It is instinct to destroy what you fear.
They are only behaving how they were programmed to behave.
For better or worse, most of society would have a person do the opposite of what instinct has them do out of "PC-ness". | |
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Posted: 9/18/2009 6:29:39 PM | OK, here's the sloth thing but from a REALLY weird source, there legit links, I'm just a fan of WWW. The teens killed the thing by pelting it with rocks and sticks. What they did disgusts me.
I understand spanish, so I saw the TV video.
http://weeklyworldnews.com/mutants/11848/panamas-montauk-monster/ | |
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Posted: 9/18/2009 7:17:42 PM | That lizard story above was interesting but I would have left it alone and called the wildlife service instead if not tried to catch it myself and keep it as a pet!
Sounds like a very interesting creature to observe. And oh what fun, catching and feeding it roaches and such.
And what harm will most lizards do? The only dangerous lizard I know is a komodo dragon, they can gobble you up but they're massive mothers.
Apart from the Komodo, a brief search yielded these as other danger lizards:
Gila Monster
The Gila monster (Heloderma suspectrum) of the American southwest, including Mexico, is a large lizard with dark, highly textured skin marked by pinkish mottling. It averages 35 to 45 centimeters in length and has a thick, stumpy tail. Unlikely to bite unless molested, it has a poisonous bite.
Mexican Beaded Lizard
The Mexican beaded lizard (Heloderma horridum) resembles its relative, the Gila monster. It has more uniform spots rather than bands of color (the Gila monster). It also is poisonous and has a docile nature. You find it from Mexico to Central America.
For all other harmless ones you still gotta be wary of biting and sharp spines.
On topic, the sloth (if that's what it was) was probably a genetic aberration like the non-pigmentation of albinos. They're docile creatures I thought. Sad. Kids are cruel. Ignorance and pact aggression.
As of the snake, I get where that one's coming from, they're tainted with the poison tag. And gee, sounds like something out of "Scary Movie", crawling up the wall with it's claw. Poor creature, bad enough it got stuck with a deformity (presumably), it then gets smashed to smithereens.
Like a spider, normally associated with being poisonous, if you saw a huge one on the wall, there's more urgency to get the shoe before it escapes than if it was a littlie. | |
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Posted: 9/18/2009 8:07:02 PM |
I guess my question is, do you think that is the best way to handle "strange beasts"?
We would need too many body bags. | |
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Posted: 9/18/2009 8:11:42 PM | I think you're being a bit harsh in the case of the snake-thing!
Dean Qiongxiu, 66, said she discovered the reptile clinging to the wall of her bedroom with its talons in the middle of the night.
"I woke up and heard a strange scratching sound. I turned on the light and saw this monster working its way along the wall using his claw," said Mrs Duan of Suining, southwest China.
You've just woken up, hearing a scratching sound, turn on the light and there is this: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/wildlife/6187320/Snake-with-foot-found-in-China.html inching its way across the wall... I think you would panic too -- and if not, surely you can understand that most people would. | |
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Posted: 9/18/2009 8:19:34 PM | | Update to my post: It's gotta be a one-footed lizard, not a snake at all. I fell into the sensationalist media propaganda. | |
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Posted: 9/18/2009 10:03:27 PM | It looks like it ate a lizard and the leg perforated the stomach and was sticking out.
Im tired of people telling me about how they came across "such and such animal" and how they proceeded to kill it. Usually its snakes. I dont understand how they could think that i would want to hear about it. I have snakes for pets, obviously i like them. Common sense should dictate that i dont want to hear about them being murdered.
As for the bald sloth, i just saw the vid on a Georgia news site. I dont understand spanish and the vid was labeled that it was an unknown creature. I immediately knew it was a sloth. I hope testing will be done on the carcass to figure out why it had no hair. | |
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Posted: 9/18/2009 10:29:21 PM | | The only real questions is do they taste better with butter and garlic or lemon pepper. | |
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Posted: 9/18/2009 11:17:57 PM |
Unlikely to bite unless molested, it has a poisonous bite.
It also is poisonous and has a docile nature.
They're not worried...been around a longer than humans have...chances are they'll be here long after we're gone...
We are but a prick in time, yet we think we hold sway... | |
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Posted: 9/19/2009 1:46:53 AM | It made me so mad to hear that they just killed the animal (sloth) because they didn't recognise what it was. That poor sloth. It's not like it was trying to attack anyone for gods sake !!!
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Posted: 9/19/2009 8:11:35 AM | Some places have laws against such things. Example, California. It is illegal to hunt for bigfoot. Now, why protect an "animal" that may or may not exist? The only reasonable explanation is that IF it exists, it is rare and need to be protected. If not, then why make a law? Hmmm....
Perhaps the kids knew a lot of the local wildlife, didn't recognize this one and decided to bring it in, figuring they would get some reward or fame out of it. I guess they did!
Near here an oddity was hit and killed by a car. Nobody ever figured out what it was for sure...about the size of a large fox, semi-hairless, dog shaped...some figured a mutt with mange, but its' body didn't quite conform to canine. Strange looking thing.
Anyhow, often these kind of animals are found off the beaten path and the only way for anyone to "prove" it was seen is by killing it and bringing it in. This brings forth the idea that they are out there, and the gov't can then act to "protect" the species, if they are interested in that kind of thing. | |
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Posted: 9/20/2009 10:43:13 AM | When I first moved out in the country my neighbors said they always used a hoe to kill snakes, so the first few times I found a snake in the yard I would call a hoe to come out and kill it, but the hoes would want to charge extra to make a house call and when they got here they acted like they'd never seen a snake before, dancin all around and jumping up in the air and all kinds of crazy antics and just letting the snake get away anyway so now i just catch them and relocate them myself instead of killing them with a hoe  | |
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Posted: 9/20/2009 12:38:06 PM |
I guess my question is, do you think that is the best way to handle "strange beasts"?
No, I don't OP but there's a lot that happens in this world that I don't understand. We as humans think we're so superior over everything including any species that happen to look 'different' than what we're used to and there is not one solitary thing I can do but hang my head and cry for them and any future 'wonderfully different' creatures that are found and slaughtered by us.
Sometimes I hate our own species.
Sans | |
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Posted: 9/20/2009 3:08:46 PM | When I first moved out in the country my neighbors said they always used a hoe to kill snakes, so the first few times I found a snake in the yard I would call a hoe to come out and kill it, but the hoes would want to charge extra to make a house call and when they got here they acted like they'd never seen a snake before, dancin all around and jumping up in the air and all kinds of crazy antics and just letting the snake get away anyway so now i just catch them and relocate them myself instead of killing them with a hoe
This is EXACTLY why "spelling matters"! | |
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Posted: 9/20/2009 3:14:55 PM |
I guess my question is, do you think that is the best way to handle "strange beasts"? Probably not, because earth's population would drop by about 75%. | |
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Posted: 9/20/2009 5:36:33 PM | | Unfortunately, it is human nature to fear what we refuse to understand and what is alien to us. | |
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