| So, what's 'wrong' with The Daily Mail and those who read it?
Posted: 10/8/2009 1:43:32 PM | Throughout these forums, I see comments deriding both the Mail and its readers.
I'm at a loss as to understand why.
It has two of the best journalists around (Peter Hitchens and Peter Oborne), and its editorial content is pro 'criminal justice', Britons, 'morality', the family, equality, and centre-right politics.
Its readers are well-informed, both in the paper and online, and going on my limited personal experience of them, they are generally decent people who care about this country and the well-being of its population.
So, what's 'wrong' with The Daily Mail and those who read it? | |
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| So, what's 'wrong' with The Daily Mail and those who read it?
Posted: 10/8/2009 1:52:37 PM | | No idea Gary. I suspect its one of those lazy jokes people make when they cant think of anything original. I dont buy it regularly but I will read it and on a Saturday it always has great articles. It used to have a Saturday essay too, not sure if it still does but that was always well written and informative. Ok I know sometimes they like to scaremonger and that probably appeals to some of its readers but on the whole if you look past that its not a bad paper. My opinion only. | |
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| So, what's 'wrong' with The Daily Mail and those who read it?
Posted: 10/8/2009 2:15:31 PM | Haha, I read an article a few weeks ago in the Mail that was asserting that lower working class women should be sterilized before they had too many illegitimate children. It had a host of other ridiculous ideas in there too. I can't remember what though.
I read the Independent mostly. | |
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| So, what's 'wrong' with The Daily Mail and those who read it?
Posted: 10/8/2009 2:21:56 PM | It depends. I read the Telegraph, The Times and the Mail. Reading the Mail is ok if you also get news/opinion from other sources too, but if that's your exclusive view of the world, then I'd say it's a little myopic. I would say the same of someone who only read the Telegraph, or only read the Mirror. The mail is expert at flaming the fans of moral indignation however, which makes it stand somewhat apart from the other papers I've mentioned. It knows that this sells newspapers, so I'm under no illusion that there's some high minded editorial principle at work here ;).
I agree that Peter Hithens is a good writer (although I don't always agree with what he says), much like his brother, Chrisopher. | |
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| So, what's 'wrong' with The Daily Mail and those who read it?
Posted: 10/8/2009 2:24:27 PM | I just stuck 'Daily Mail Readers' in a search engine to see what presented itself. On the first page was an article circa 2005 from that cutting edge newspaper full of worthy articles called ....................... The Grauniad (sic), 
The topic? The number of people saving a million tokens (or something) from the Daily Mail to receive a bone china dinner service and the fact that one yes one complaint was received about the quality of the dinner service and none about the number of tokens needed (which was the gripe of the Guardian).
Only Sun readers buy the paper for the freebies (cheapo holidays at out of season holiday camps) Most regular Daily Mail readers buy it for the content and any 'offers' are incidental and optional, although I recommend the designer sunglasses 
Purrsonally I used to be a reader of the Torygraph for the sport and the cryptic crossword when I had the luxury (or boredom) of a commute into town. Now I happily browse, skim, scan or consume bits of the Mail and the Mail on Sunday. It is not my bible nor a creed I live by, but I would love to be enlightened as to what 'sort of person' I am due to a small part of my reading material.
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| So, what's 'wrong' with The Daily Mail and those who read it?
Posted: 10/8/2009 2:38:37 PM | I'm often thought of as being stupid as I enjoy reading The Sun
but as many of you know there is nothing wrong with my levels of intelligence!
I think The Mail is a good old fashioned paper although many say too right wing.
So nothing wrong with it in my opinion but not one that I'd spend my money on. | |
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| So, what's 'wrong' with The Daily Mail and those who read it?
Posted: 10/8/2009 2:45:32 PM | | The mail always strikes me as a decent paper. I might not always agree with it's political bias but then again i do have a mind of my own. It seems good for news and articles on all sorts, especially health matters. I beleive it is regarded as a good paper for womens matters in comparison to the others. | |
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| So, what's 'wrong' with The Daily Mail and those who read it?
Posted: 10/8/2009 3:11:20 PM | I like the Daily Mail. I read it about 3 times a week, and always read the Mail On Sunday.
I don't agree with everything Peter Hitchens says, but at least he is sincere. I tried to contact him once in the course of some academic research,he got back to me within the hour, and he was very helpful. But I did sense that if the conversation had gone wrong I would have been in the role of****Dastardly and he The General!
I admit to having some bias with regard to newspapers. I won't have the Guardian in the house! | |
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| So, what's 'wrong' with The Daily Mail and those who read it?
Posted: 10/8/2009 3:23:49 PM | I think the Mail is derided because it actually says the things that most true Brits are afraid to say. It's the equivalent of an elderly neighbour who doesn't tolerate 'Wogs,pakis,queers and yobbos'. We like to laugh at their 'terrorist living next door' attitude,whilst at the same time secretly agreeing that they might just have a point.
Also,Fred Bassett is a Hoot. | |
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| So, what's 'wrong' with The Daily Mail and those who read it?
Posted: 10/8/2009 9:36:31 PM | What's wrong with it? Exactly the same as is wrong with just about every other newspaper to a greater or lesser extent. And that is that they're censored to give a false representation of the world.
Most people think that newspapers are in the business of selling papers... but that's not entirely accurate. 99.99% of newspapers actually make a loss selling papers.
What they actually do is sell readers to advertisers. And whether you like it or not, those advertisers from the corporate/business world have an agenda... which is to put themselves and their companies and their products/services in as favourable a light as possible.
So... if papers actually printed the TRUTH about the world then you would find, in pretty short order, that they would lose all their sponsors and go out of business. Afterall... what sort of company is going to sponsor a paper that prints stories about their malpractice? Or gives them, or their friends, bad publicity.
Anyone interested in a more in depth explanation, I can recommend an excellent book by Noam Chomsky called 'Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media.' - once again, your local library should be able to get you a copy.
For my own part, I've discovered that if you want to REALLY know what goes on in the world then mass media of any kind is just not the place to find it. I MUCH prefer to read books by really good independent investigative journalists [John Pilger or Naomi Klein for example]. People who get all their information first hand, and whose in depth material is properly sourced, corroborated and referenced.
The only drawback, I've found with reading books instead of papers, is that your information, though infinitely more correct and truthful, is invariably at least a couple of years behind the times. But, once you've read a few of these books you find that you read papers, or watch the news, with a completely different mindset.
I can't read newspapers anymore... they just make my blood boil. They make me so mad I had to stop reading them for the sake of my blood pressure. Especially the bloody red tops... my GOD, they're awful. | |
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| So, what's 'wrong' with The Daily Mail and those who read it?
Posted: 10/9/2009 2:46:42 AM | Whats wrong with it?
it prints silly, sensationalist stories from a very right-wing viewpoint and I think because it looks more like a serious newspaper than the Sun or Mirror, people can be more influenced by it.
But at the end of the day all papers have their biased slant on things - Guardian readers are equally subject to stereotyping. As long as you recognise that papers have a bias and have a mind of you own its not really a problem. | |
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| So, what's 'wrong' with The Daily Mail and those who read it?
Posted: 10/9/2009 2:52:05 AM | I tend to read the Metro as it's free and it makes the train journey into work more tolerable, and saves me staring into space or watching the bloke opposite trying to pick his nose in secret. I'll read the Mail on Sunday occasionally, but only because I like the colour supplements and the weekly tv guide. I also tend to favour reading the Daily Mail if I'm in one of those cafeterias which have a variety of papers to choose from. I like the way the columns are set out, it's user friendly and has a mish mash of different topics to choose from, although it does tend to focus rather a lot on immigration it would seem. I don't align myself with any particular political party either so I'm not sure what would be wrong with those who do read the Daily Mail or what it's supposed to say about them. I can't read the The Sun as it makes my blood boil. It has a tendency to impart information as though the person reading it must be thick. 
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vvvvvv Sorry Pud! I'm not suggesting you're thick either...lol x | |
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| So, what's 'wrong' with The Daily Mail and those who read it?
Posted: 10/9/2009 2:59:10 AM | I work nights and have access to all the papers at break time and will pick up which ever one is going spare and my first choice is always either the Sun or the Mail depending on mood. I think it is a good paper but like any paper or even News broadcast is they will report the facts but will put on any political slant they want and interpret the facts to suit their agenda. The influence level depends on the reader.
It is worth doing one day to buy all the papers and read all the main stories and it is often markedly different the slant the journalist is trying to get across to the reader. | |
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| So, what's 'wrong' with The Daily Mail and those who read it?
Posted: 10/9/2009 6:38:19 AM | What’s wrong with the Daily Mail…nothing…Nah only joking
It’s a newspaper that thrives on misery, negativity, sensationalism, fear, prejudice, overt racism and general vindictiveness. It prints cr@p however, it’s not even good for the bog… it chafes the bum.
I’ve seen old ladies who can turn from being mild-mannered, relatively open-minded pensioners, into raging racists and homophobes within minutes of reading a Daily Mail headline, they’ll turn purple as they rant about all the asylum seekers who are going to turn their community hall in Leamington Spa into a Drug rehab’ Centre for disabled black lesbians on ASBOs...they’ll be scream at each other with stories of gypsy dole scroungers, criminal asylum seeking dole scroungers, delinquent teenage dole scroungers with dole scrounging parents, “bloody foreigners stealing our houses” you’ll hear them scream and tell you that everything labour does is a shambles and how everything the Tories do is so bloody marvellous. Mind you the bit about labour’s true.
If you want to create your own Daily mail headline…
http://www.qwghlm.co.uk/toys/dailymail/
The Daily Mail is read by people who think they are of superior intelligence to those who read the likes of The Sun and The Star, the difference being that people who read The Sun/Star at least know they are reading cr@p, you just get to look at a nice pair of t!ts.
If you don’t recognise any of this…it’s probably because you’re reading the Daily Mail…
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| So, what's 'wrong' with The Daily Mail and those who read it?
Posted: 10/9/2009 6:55:52 AM | I despise the paper, I had a manager who used to read out articles during lunch breaks and it was appalling what racist, bigoted and sexist nonsense they published (a few other ists should be included).
I'd never buy it but then there's only one paper I would through choice, the Daily Telegraph and I can't always take the political slant in that sometimes ! | |
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| So, what's 'wrong' with The Daily Mail and those who read it?
Posted: 10/9/2009 7:18:22 AM | | Well ive taken to reading the Guardian on Saturday it last me all week !!! but im enjoying the reading think i t contain s a bit for everyone and the family pages are a great read,full of ideas to entain bored children ........ | |
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| So, what's 'wrong' with The Daily Mail and those who read it?
Posted: 10/9/2009 8:08:36 AM | I have neither the time nor the inclination to read any of the dailies. Trying to find the 'news' in amongst the political and financial spin is too much like hard work and I really can't be bothered.
Since the DM is the paper in the spotlight in this thread though, I'll agree with Andy and add that it is a paper of the lowest common demoninator dressed in the garb of a 'serious' paper.
A sheep in wolfs clothing, if you will. | |
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| So, what's 'wrong' with The Daily Mail and those who read it?
Posted: 10/9/2009 8:19:43 AM | I read the Mail (and other papers as well), but I'm certainly not one of their "typical" readers.
What's "wrong" with Mail readers is that they're right-wing...that's enough in its own right. The paper can be an odious rag, playing on people's fears and worries. It can be bigoted, prejudiced and very inconsistent.
In the last month it ran a story about how "thugs" in cities are killing foxes with dogs.
See here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1213322/Killer-dogs-used-gang-hunt-foxes--city-streets.html#
Yet at the same time it seems to think that "respectable" people doing the same in the countryside (whilst stretching out the fox's suffering) is perfectly acceptable!
That sums up the bias and prejudice of the Mail and a good proportion of its readership. | |
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| So, what's 'wrong' with The Daily Mail and those who read it?
Posted: 10/9/2009 9:04:58 AM | I don't read any tabloid newspapers and in all honestly have had the most exposure to the Daily Mail since reading these forums (which kind of says a lot in itself if you ask me...) and the overwhelming impression I have gained from this is that it is indeed like Pub Genius says, very bigoted, prejudiced and inconsistent.
I'm not saying all tabloids are faultless but The Daily Mail is up there amongst the worst of the bunch. | |
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| So, what's 'wrong' with The Daily Mail and those who read it?
Posted: 10/9/2009 9:06:04 AM |
The Daily Mail is read by people who think they are of superior intelligence to those who read the likes of The Sun and The Star, the difference being that people who read The Sun/Star at least know they are reading cr@p, you just get to look at a nice pair of t!ts
Why would I pay to look at a nice pair of t!ts when I can look at my own nice pair for free? I like the fact that the Daily Mail doesn't have t!ts in it.
What's "wrong" with Mail readers is that they're right-wing...that's enough in its own right.
Have you interviewed all Daily Mail readers to come to that conclusion?
Why do people have to be stereotyped for their reading material anyway ........... do we all believe (or agree with) everything we read in the press? I certainly don't.
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| So, what's 'wrong' with The Daily Mail and those who read it?
Posted: 10/9/2009 9:10:45 AM |
I read an article a few weeks ago in the Mail that was asserting that lower working class women should be sterilized before they had too many illegitimate children
And, as the original poster said, what's wrong with that? | |
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