| Barak Obama wins the Nobel Peace Prize
Posted: 10/9/2009 4:39:05 AM | The news today are announcing that the president of the United States of America is this year recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize. This was a surprising piece of news to our country, however the news will be welcomed by all Americans who share the goal the goal of making the world a better place for all humanity.
The announcement stated that
The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 is to be awarded to President Barack Obama for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples.
http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/2009/press.html
It is truly a great honor for our country that a sitting president has been chosen as the Nobel Peace Prize winner. Do you agree with the Norwegian Nobel Committee's decision?
I hope that people would take an opportunity to express their opinions in this thread mindful of my decision to post the topic in the Current Events forum, not the Politics forum. | |
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| Barak Obama wins the Nobel Peace Prize
Posted: 10/9/2009 4:52:36 AM | Earning the Nobel Peace Prize is an honor. But it will not remain one if they just hand it out "just because" all the time. The Prize will lose its credibility.
It's interesting that Obama was president for less than two weeks before the nomination deadline. The achievements stated by the committee were not done within those two weeks.
That's the same as giving a kid an A+ on a report he hasn't even given yet, just because you expect that he'll do well...maybe....
I'm glad an American received the Prize (remembers Homer Simpson chanting "USA!"), but I would rather it be over actual successes, not just cute politics.
Most of the actions done by a government/leader aren't even fully measurable till much later in history. It's foolish to presume the whole Middle East issue is solved because it's been a current topic for the Obama presidency for a short time period.
I wonder how the runners up feel about this, or maybe they worked less than 2 weeks and just don't deserve it? | |
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| Barak Obama wins the Nobel Peace Prize
Posted: 10/9/2009 6:52:42 AM | Well I'm not an Obama lover or hater but I can't help but wonder if the announcment was made on Comedy Central. I always thought the Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to someone who accomplished something not too someone they are hoping will accomplish something.
I can just see it. Next years award will be too David Letterman for keeping peace with his wife. | |
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| Barak Obama wins the Nobel Peace Prize
Posted: 10/9/2009 9:20:40 AM | This is by no means a redundant topic. In fact it is the earliest topic on this subject.
The other topics on the Politics and Off-topic forums were started after this one, so those would be redundant.
So we can see the reasoning of the Nobel Peace Prize committee, I am posting the entire text of their citation awarding the prize to president Barack Obama.
"The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 is to be awarded to President Barack Obama for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. The Committee has attached special importance to Obama's vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons.
"Obama has as president created a new climate in international politics. Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play. Dialogue and negotiations are preferred as instruments for resolving even the most difficult international conflicts. The vision of a world free from nuclear arms has powerfully stimulated disarmament and arms control negotiations. Thanks to Obama's initiative, the USA is now playing a more constructive role in meeting the great climatic challenges the world is confronting. Democracy and human rights are to be strengthened.
"Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future. His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's population.
"For 108 years, the Norwegian Nobel Committee has sought to stimulate precisely that international policy and those attitudes for which Obama is now the world's leading spokesman. The Committee endorses Obama's appeal that "Now is the time for all of us to take our share of responsibility for a global response to global challenges."
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE5981RA20091009?virtualBrandChannel=11621 | |
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| Barak Obama wins the Nobel Peace Prize
Posted: 10/9/2009 12:01:18 PM | I was floored as everybody else when I heard about it this morning.
When the committee decided that he was one of the "Award-worthy" back in February, Obama was in office for 11 days.
Exactly which accomplishments they are talking about? Nine months into the presidency and the only thing that he has accomplished is to fail every single promise he made.
THIS IS A PREEMPTIVE award, The Norwegians –or wherever the stupid committee is sitting- are trying to make sure that he will not raise any hell in Iran, N. Korea and be a compliant peace keeper. The liberal Europe is trying to influence and dictate policy once again for the United States.
Peace on Him! Like RL said….
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| Barak Obama wins the Nobel Peace Prize
Posted: 10/9/2009 4:09:40 PM |
It is truly a great honor for our country that a sitting president has been chosen as the Nobel Peace Prize winner. Do you agree with the Norwegian Nobel Committee's decision? Nope. Sure, Obama sounds good, and he looks set to bring much peace to the world. But as far as I can see, he hasn't, not yet. The main change that has happened, is that with an African-American being elected to the American Presidency, the world now sees that those who belong to ethnic groups that have been trodden on by the First World, can rise to the very top of society, even to the top of the First World, and so people now see that unfair discrimination and oppression can be turned on its head, and can be found against and won. I think they were trying to give the Nobel Peace Prize as a result of this major change to world views. But that really isn't on account of Obama. It's on account of those who voted for him. So, really, I think the Nobel Peace Prize is not being awarded to Obama in truth, but to his voters, the American people, and to the average American. But who could the Nobel committee give it to? They couldn't give the prize to 300 million people. They had to give it to someone. So they gave it to Obama.
But as I said, I'd much rather see that he was given the prize when he's accomplished something really significant that brings peace, like maybe if he could resolve the Israel-Palestinian conflict, or even the conflict between the Muslim World and the West. Now, that would be something to really sing and dance about. | |
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| Barak Obama wins the Nobel Peace Prize
Posted: 10/9/2009 8:43:43 PM |
The other topics on the Politics and Off-topic forums were started after this one, so those would be redundant.
Actually no. I started mine at 4:37, but since it wasn't pro-Obama, it got voted for deletion right off the bat. So yours was in fact redundant.
You know...there's not limitation on how many times a person can win the Nobel, as far as I know. He could be getting $1.4 mill every year he's in office. That's like 3 times the salary he gets as President. As to whether he lives up to it or not...we'll see. | |
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| Barak Obama wins the Nobel Peace Prize
Posted: 10/10/2009 8:39:08 AM | Actually no. I started mine at 4:37, but since it wasn't pro-Obama, it got voted for deletion right off the bat. So yours was in fact redundant.
This topic was posted at 4:39. I searched the site when I started working on this topic and there was nothing on this issue. Then I decided to post the topic in this forum because I wanted to avoid the stupid politization that normally occurs in the other forums. When I hit the post button I wasn't aware of your topic, so I wasn't redundant. At any rate, the fact that your topic was deleted by vote of the members, and the other one that started after yours was deleted by a moderator, should be a good lesson. At this point I am not sure if this topic will survive for a while, even though it only has a few posts. If anyone responds to the trolling bait in message # 5 in a deserving manner, very soon it may become a moderator victim.
I am not apolitical, and I don't run away from debate and confrontation. I don't have dog in the fight between republicans and democrats, but I do object to retrograd ideas and do voice my opinions against those who want to legitimize the power of the strong to abuse the less fortunate in this country and in the rest of the world. But I don't need to have every discussion turn into a free for all, dog eat dog kind of fight. Maybe we can try to have a civil discussion here, for as long as we can.
I think they were trying to give the Nobel Peace Prize as a result of this major change to world views. But that really isn't on account of Obama. It's on account of those who voted for him. So, really, I think the Nobel Peace Prize is not being awarded to Obama in truth, but to his voters, the American people, and to the average American. But who could the Nobel committee give it to? They couldn't give the prize to 300 million people. They had to give it to someone. So they gave it to Obama.
I will agree with that idea. In fact, it is very similar to what the awarding committee said:
Obama has as president created a new climate in international politics. Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play. Dialogue and negotiations are preferred as instruments for resolving even the most difficult international conflicts. The vision of a world free from nuclear arms has powerfully stimulated disarmament and arms control negotiations.
The citation is posted in a message above, and if you read it carefully you will see that the main reason for the award is that president Obama returned the US to a policy of favoring diplomacy rather than confrontation and over-powering other countries. That is something that president Obama DID. He also sent his envoys to different parts of the world to make other countries aware that there was a significant change in the way that America would conduct business from now on. That is another thing that he DID. Those actions made a big difference in the eyes of the world, and the awarding committee realized that, and they were cited during the award announcement. | |
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| Barak Obama wins the Nobel Peace Prize
Posted: 10/10/2009 8:58:50 AM | I noticed that previous Nobel laureates among Presidents/VP's of the US followed a certain pattern...Teddy Roosevelt (progressive Republican), Wilson, Carter, Algore (really???) and now Obama.
Ronald Reagan ended the cold war in conjunction with Mikhail Gorbachev...no Nobel for either.
Richard Nixon opened dialogue with mainland China with the help of Henry Kissinger...No Nobels there.
Just a thought... | |
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| Barak Obama wins the Nobel Peace Prize
Posted: 10/23/2009 7:57:43 PM | It is truly a great honor for our country that a sitting president has been chosen as the Nobel Peace Prize winner. Do you agree with the Norwegian Nobel Committee's decision?
It's kinda hard to agree with their decision when even the recipent was shocked. Obama was clearing uncomfortable ..... and he wasn't the only one. Maybe they should have given it to Michael Jackson instead or anybody else ....Pick ME .... unreal!!!!
This thread has only a few responses to it when it should be flooded with comments. Just shaking my head …. And wondering what’s next?¿
Peace & Unbelievables …..the FairyHealer | |
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| Barak Obama wins the Nobel Peace Prize
Posted: 10/23/2009 8:50:41 PM | | Probably because everyone's tired of arguing the topic everywhere else in their lives. That, or pretty much everyone, even super libs, knows that it's ridiculous that O got the prize. | |
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