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 bettie777

Joined: 9/5/2009
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Flue shots are more dangerous than the flu itself!
Posted: 10/16/2009 8:25:12 AM
here’s no need to panic – despite the daily bad-news barrage about swine flu. This is a manufactured “pandemic”. Truly much worse health issues should be vying for your attention. Numerous questions about the much-touted swine flu vaccine press for answers…

Are the vaccines in question safe? Do they even work?

Have they been adequately tested?

Is their testing even honest – i.e., are they testing the exact same vaccine they will then force on you? And are tests conducted with absolute integrity and neutrality?

Does the gravity of the illness even justify mass immunizations?

Why are medical professionals and virologists (those who study these viruses) so adamant that they do not plan to immunize themselves or family members?

Too much doubt surrounds each of these questions to even come close to guaranteeing the vaccine’s efficacy.

To add insult to injury, now Big Pharma has been granted immunity from all lawsuits such as those that resulted from the 1970s swine flu vaccine boondoggle.

You and your loved ones simply have no recourse if you get the shot and react severely, or even die, from complications of the vaccine.

No recourse.

Meanwhile the vaccine manufacturers’ gluttonous appetite for profit – in collaboration with your government – could end up forcing your hand.

Dr. Blaylock suggests fifteen actions you can take to protect your immune system from invasion by these foreign substances, in the event you are forced to take the shot.

In the meantime, let’s hope it doesn’t come to that, and that each person is allowed to make their own reasoned decision about the vaccine.
 techgirl27

Joined: 9/5/2005
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Posted: 10/16/2009 8:47:55 AM
I wonder about this. The only year I ever had the flu (and I was sick sick sick, all thru christmas vacation) was the year I had a flu shot. (I think it was 2000)

My mom said it was coincidence, and keeps pushing me to get a shot saying the flu is killing people bla bla bla/ Well first of all, up until about a week ago, the vaccine wasnt even available, and 2nd, I am healthy enough I hardly ever get sick.

I don't know the answers to any of those questions but one thing I do know is there really is nothing we can do about it. Diseases are getting more virulent, and that is just a fact of life (or death). Unless they can eradicate it like they did polio, people shouldn't waste the money. Its just drug companies wanting to make a buck off of people's fears.
 nexthyme

Joined: 9/12/2007
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Posted: 10/16/2009 9:29:37 AM
One has to ask if this is just a fear mongering of the people... Autism has increased by 127 %, since 30 yrs ago... What has changed? People are not wanting to risk their kids getting an injection because of autism, and or asperger's syndrom....

The mercury, and other mixes of glycolic acid (anifreeze) as well as a host of other crap... Then they want people to take MORE than one shot, so what, to double the dose of poison???

I can't remember getting a flu shot, perhaps I did, because the only time I remember feeling like I was going to freaking die was in the late 90's with a 106 degree fever. It is funny because this flu was very wide spread, but I don't remember any news casts beat the drums of drama...

Then the flu shots of 76, they were such a mess, that they had to pull the injections all together...

I hope to hell they do not force the issue of requiring such an injection... It would go against my religious belief, even if it is my own belief...

Some people can line up, and complain those who don't summit put others at risk... Really, perhaps they should have a deadly drug reaction that nearly takes there life... Then perhaps they won't be so eager to line up with their kids, and pregnant moms and all...

I don't know sounds like a financial boom to me...

NOT LIKE the big pharma hasn't done that before..
 justwant2no

Joined: 11/14/2007
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Posted: 10/16/2009 12:28:25 PM
I got a swine flu vaccine in 1976. I was 14. I remember distinctly, my family doctor asked if I wanted to be '16 for the day', I asked why, he said 'because at 16 you only get one shot, under that, you get 2.' I said 'One for me, please.' But that night I woke in the middle of the night, unable to move - I was paralyzed! I laid in bed, to afraid to call out to my parents even. I finally fell back to sleep, and in the morning was able to move my legs - albeit shaky. No body warned me about temporary paralysis!
I don't do flu shots anymore.
 CutieChaela

Joined: 2/9/2006
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Posted: 10/16/2009 1:03:20 PM
My mothers fiánce seems to think the government is using the "flu shot" as a way to microchip us.
I for one, have not had a flu shot in 5+ t
years, and just had a small taste of the flu. Treated, and back to normal within a week WITHOUT doctor prescribed health.
F the flu shot.
 satx78218

Joined: 10/30/2007
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Posted: 10/16/2009 2:09:07 PM
I read today where most of the kids who die/get sick from flu shots have a "co-morbidity" like an ongoing infection, or suppressed/weakend immune system.

This guy can be heavy-handed at times, but his gist is OK:

http://www.naturalnews.com/z027258_vaccines_flu_vaccine.html
 hawthorne pie

Joined: 8/14/2009
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Posted: 10/16/2009 3:29:41 PM
I got violently ill from the regular flu shot this year -- woke up in the middle of the night sweating, really dizzy, weak, with a loud high-pitched buzzing in my ears.

I'm now doing Taiji/Qigong to help my immune system. Check out the study on antibody development of elderly with and without doing Taiji/Qigong -- those doing it developed LOTS more antibodies! (google Center for Taiji Studies Dr. Yang Yang).
 Aero_100_

Joined: 8/31/2009
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Posted: 10/16/2009 4:13:32 PM
Prove it , Prove to me that flu shots are more dangerous then the flu.

stop beliving every little bit of information you watch on tv or overhear some paranoid dweeb saying ...

each government tests the vaccine to make sure it protects and dose what it is supposed to do.

I garuntee this because Health Canada dose its own testing and has proven they work ; for those who get ill from it have a pre existing condition.
Which is why they ask you if you have been feeling ill befor you get the shot, if yes then they will delay giving it until you are healthier.
if you answer no then its your own problem.

lastly how are the governments trying to team up with the manufacturers when the government is the one paying for it and everyone gets it for free?
 bedlog

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Posted: 10/16/2009 10:25:33 PM
I don't consider this a manufactured pandemic. I do consider the national news anchors like Katie Couric and Bryan Williams scaring viewers, a persistent problem. I take issue with health care workers being forced to take the shot, or be fired. Know what? If that were me, I'll walk. The h1n1 vaccine has not been safely tested over a long period of time, in my opinion. I don't appreciate U.S citizens being guinea pigs-willingly or not. Common sense should be absolutely mandatory, cover your cough and sneezes, wash your hands and stay home if you think you have the flu or anything remotely close. Wash your veggies and fruits. Use your brain and your guy instinct and don't cave into the paranoia.
 Fleur_de_Lis

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Posted: 10/16/2009 11:41:20 PM
Several years ago I had a flu shot and came down with the killer flu that wasn't covered by the shot

Some brain dead jackass came to my dad's workplace and infected everyone with his illness, and the idiot employer didn't have the good sense to send him home

I haven't gotten a flu shot since
 serenityCW

Joined: 1/21/2006
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Posted: 10/17/2009 2:29:01 AM
having had lymes, i have been told by my board certified hematologist, osteopaths, lymes literate family practitioner's and internists and my m.d. /homeopath, NOT to take flu shots. if you google mercola, you can read up on the data and concepts/concerns. but prepared to have time on your hands. you can also check out drrandy dot org, where he also goes into more detail.

there is a lot of research they cite going on in canada. getting it published is another story. who do you think controls the medical journals? it has taken years to finally get people off their butts with respect to lymes. still, the diagnosis goes undetected and how much cheaper is that for the insurance industry? let alone, what docs can continue with their chosen research funding?

as a health care strategist before i was stricken, i can assure you that health care delivery is very politically and economically driven. some of it is great, but some is quite scary. each of you must become the general contractor of your own body. whatever decision you make, you must be informed about both sides of the coin. way back they came out with a lymes vaccine. it made a good number sick and they took it off the market. if you do get this vaccine, i'd get checked for mercury levels and i'd also take some of the supplements recommended by the holistic practitioners. they also say don't take BOTH regular flu shot and the new "panic" flu shot in the same timeframe. all this becomes clear if you take the time to read the "opposition".

i've been put on a stiff prevention plan and also have a to do list in case i catch it. i am happy to type it up, if anyone needs it. i just had a stomach flu that is going around. i did get it, but my symptoms were nothing compared to what others have reported. i also had just started the prevention plan. i believe my lesser symptoms is due to my prevention regimen. mine also lasted three days and others have been laid up for a good week.
 bettie777

Joined: 9/5/2009
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Posted: 10/17/2009 10:23:18 AM
This is no conspiracy theory, you should check out the Georgia guidestones, it is in plain sight, in writing that the elite plan to reduce the population to 5 billion. Please watch David Icke "Don't take the vaccine" on YOU TUBE. Very interesting. Vaccinations actually do the opposite, they compromise the immune system, while Big Pharma rakes in their profits.
 bettie777

Joined: 9/5/2009
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Posted: 10/17/2009 10:26:08 AM
Also, there's proof right here that vaccines contribute if not totally are the cause of autism, because the Amish have zero autism in their midst, and zero vaccines.
 bettie777

Joined: 9/5/2009
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Posted: 10/17/2009 10:28:05 AM
You are very fortunate to have made it okay. I had a heavy metal test done recently and I was over the roof in lead, arsenic and mercury. I've done several cleanses but probably not finished getting this out. You might want to have a test done. Those vaccines have heavy metals which stay in our bodies forever.
 bettie777

Joined: 9/5/2009
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Posted: 10/17/2009 10:32:15 AM
They've already found that soldiers got gulf war syndrome also that never left home. That can only come from the squalene, mercury and other heavy metals in the vaccines that were given at that time. GI's are nothing but guinea pigs.
 bettie777

Joined: 9/5/2009
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Posted: 10/17/2009 10:44:42 AM
Remember, there are ways to natuarally fight viruses without dangerous vaccinations. Let me give you a few.

1. acidophilus..this will put friendly bacteria in your bowels and fight any bad bacteria.
2. Eat plenty of green leafy veges and fruits.
3. Eat garlic, garlic oil or oregano/oil. (anti bacterial, viral).
4.Drink lots of pure water.

5. The last really works, I can get you some witnesses along with myself.

Thieves/ blend of essential oils. True story, during the black plague in France, a bunch of thieves went around and stole from the dying and dead. They were totally not affected. These thieves were caught and brought before the king. They had to reveal their secret in exchange for not being punished for their crimes.

Four Thieves Vinegar Recipe: Use equal parts of the following herbs:

Lavender
Sage
Thyme
Melissa (lemon balm)
Hyssop
Peppermint
A handful of garlic cloves
Blend ingredients in a glass jar and cover completely with organic, unpasteurized apple cider vinegar, which is available in most health food stores. Cold infuse (let sit at room temperature in a cool place) for six weeks and then strain off herbs and garlic.

You can take Four Thieves Vinegar by the teaspoonful, use it as a salad dressing, or even add a spoonful to your bath water for personal protection. Four Thieves Vinegar and warmed organic coconut oil make an excellent salad dressing.

You can also use it as a topical spray to disinfect surfaces -- including skin -- and/or you can take it as a tincture. All of the ingredients in Four Thieves Vinegar are either potent antibacterials or antivirals!

Or you can buy thieves blend of essential oil from YOUNG LIVING and it is therapeutic grade. You can eat it, put it anywhere on your body and it will go into the bloodstream and kill bad germs. Very powerful and safe! I've tried it ..great~!
 TheReason_

Joined: 5/16/2009
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Posted: 10/17/2009 10:46:22 AM
I'm not going to get it. I'm going to avoid as many people I can, be the last man standing, and THEN I'll show you a good time.



 bettie777

Joined: 9/5/2009
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Posted: 10/17/2009 10:48:13 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqMK_yu8APg
 Aero_100_

Joined: 8/31/2009
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Posted: 10/17/2009 2:09:28 PM
you say you tested high in mercury huh this explains your thought patterns

oh here is another thing all those heavy metals you tested for you should check how close the nearest gas station is to your drinking water because this could be why

oh and just somthing extra you do realise the news gets paid to cause chaos to mess with the way you think


hmmm imagine that
 Aero_100_

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Posted: 10/17/2009 2:13:36 PM
by the way if you drink black tea, it reduces the amount mercury in your body

and drink lots of water, it flushes impurities out of your body so there you have it
 Fleur_de_Lis

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Posted: 10/17/2009 4:56:16 PM
I drink 20 oz of black tea a day ~ love the stuff



 dot*

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Posted: 10/17/2009 6:13:00 PM
I think some basic immunology education should be added to this thread (if it hasn't already been. I've only read the first post):

A toxin is the actual virus/disease that you are protecting yourself from when you get a vaccination.

A *toxoid* is the toxin, slightly modified so that it is LESS harmful. This is what you receive when you are vaccinated.

The point of a vaccination is to introduce your immune system to a toxoid so that the immune cells will recognize it as harmful and foreign and fight it. After you fight an illness, some of your immune cells will proliferate into what are called "memory cells" that will stick around for awhile so that when the same antigen comes back, they can fight it that much faster than before. The toxoid is similar enough to the toxin so that if, after having been vaccinated, we somehow come into contact with the toxin, our bodies will recognize the epitope (the part of the toxoid and toxin that are the exact same) and fight it.

The reason why those born before ~1955 are said to be safe from H1N1 is because many have already been exposed to a a strain of the flu so similar to H1N1, that their immune systems can fight it a lot better than the very young, the very old, and the immunocompromised.

The reason why the flu shot often doesn't work (and, in my opinion, is a waste of time) is because it's a guessing game. They don't know *what* strain of the flu will be present in the future, so they make the most educated guess possible, develop the toxoid, and administer it via vaccination.

The reason why (again, in my opinion) I wouldn't get the H1N1 vaccine is because it's been rushed and not deemed safe. Apparently 2/3rds of Canadians agree with me here. In this case, I think education and prevention whenever possible are the best defences. Don't take it lightly, as although it's "just a flu", it really can have devastating effects. However, don't become paranoid either!
 dot*

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Posted: 10/17/2009 6:16:49 PM
Okay, I've just read all the responses to this thread.

Bettie...with all due respect, I think you need to learn some basic immunology before stating the things you've stated. Many of your statements are flat-out not true.

Vaccinations, when tested before being administered, are *excellent*.
 serenityCW

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Posted: 10/17/2009 7:01:42 PM
re message 15 and gulf war syndrome. before i "finally" got my lymes dx, i also was dx'd with gulf war syndrome. since then, they found that the identified microbes that created gulf war syndrome are ALSO carried by the tick. somewheres i have an article about mercury as i also had some of the highest levels seen in the office where i'm being chelated. to put this in quickie consumer terms, the mercury binds and affects part of the immune system's ability to fight off such microbes successfully and over long periods the microbes migrate to parts of the body where medications carried in the bloodstream have difficulty reaching. also, many of these microbes hide in our cells and we begin to attack ourselves--aka autoimmunity.

thus, someone can have a poor immune system and come down with a flu shot reaction right away. others are just storing it for the future. then one day, if a serious microbe enters the body or is no longer controlled within the body by a functioning immune system, then all hell will come to play. so, one must not think for the present only. you must take care to not weaken your system and this is what many external chemicals will do. there are also the estrogen imitators in many of the pesticides and supposed "beauty" products. these too will build up. so, you need to look at people like me, with already compromised immune systems, as canaries sent into the mines. when they become affected or die, the miners know not to go any further and that there will be no oxygen.

as i chelate out the mercury, i also take many herbal supplements known to, over time, strengthen my immunity. it is interesting that the dental field denies the mercury epidemic so as not to get sued, but rarely offers mercury fillings anymore! if you are on government subsistence, this is something you must watch for, cheaper mercury fillings as a matter of economics. sure, i have irreperable damage in some areas, but in others i am way stronger than those of you who are ignoring what "could" happen to your bodies in the future. these things are both cumulative and interactive. add stress to it, and your chances of breaking down your immunity will multiply as well.

again, i won't argue anyone's final decision. but, i will argue that not enough people do their own research. most of the physicians who are 10-15 years ahead of their times, are not in the welfare offices dishing out meds. they couldn't afford to do both. however, if you bring the info to your dr., often they will listen, because you have done the work! plus, they don't want you to sue them in the future.
 techgirl27

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Posted: 10/17/2009 10:24:56 PM
been drinking tea basically daily since I was 10 years old, sometimes in higher volumes than others. That might explain why I hardly ever get sick. That and I've always made sure I got my multi for the last 20 years.

But one caveat to think about, why then in Britain where tea consumption is only exceeded by china and india, do people get ill so frequently? My theory is that India and China don't laden their diets with sugar the way the Brits and other westerners do.
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