| Race Baiting and Name Calling
Posted: 10/18/2009 9:36:24 AM | Seems that it has become popular now to call out even black conservatives with the race card and racial slurs.
Strangely it seems that its ok to use racial slurs against people of color if they are conservative.
Here we have this man who won a Nobel Peace Prize, yet there seems to be more name calling and attacks on anyone that supports a conservative base than we have had in a long time.
Why is it so popular to use the race card, racial slurs and name calling to debate against a conservative agrument.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUYx8vUZyhY | |
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| Race Baiting and Name Calling
Posted: 10/18/2009 9:47:16 AM | | Because Fox News has always been completely honest when commenting on the other side of the political spectrum... | |
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| Race Baiting and Name Calling
Posted: 10/18/2009 9:54:02 AM | Yea, the world does seem like a really negative place if you only watch faux news.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgwP3vBuuRk | |
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| Race Baiting and Name Calling
Posted: 10/18/2009 9:58:16 AM |
Strangely it seems that its ok to use racial slurs against people of color if they are conservative.
'Strangely', it seems that among some, it is okay to use racial slurs...
Who, in their right-thinking mind, would ever believe that using racial slurs is 'ok'?
It isn't 'ok'.
It IS a way of deflecting from the actual discussion/debate when one has no support for one's position.
Conservative, Liberal, next-door-neighbor...it is not 'ok' to use racial slurs.
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| Race Baiting and Name Calling
Posted: 10/18/2009 10:27:31 AM | Juan Williams was a Hillary supporter last year and a staunch Democrat.
While Juan has at times been critical of President Obama, it is usually not his habit. Since Obama has taken office Juan has sided with Obama on many issues.
So now Juan brings up a negative issue that has merit and references Obama and he is now tagged by those on the left.
This is not the first time this has been seen nor will it probably be the last. Just look around at all the name calling that has been seen on this site alone. Instead of fighting many have resorted to name calling of politicians, media personal and even posters when there is a disagreement.
For the last 9 years I have to say I have not been happy with the way our government has been moving or its leaders. Name calling of anyone connected with this discontent does not help to prove any points in any debate.
Yes I was one of those not happy with Bush from day 1, and in fact still wonder if Bush legally won the election in 2000. Although Bush made many many mistakes in his time, I do feel that he did what he thought was best for the country. Was it what others thought best for the country; No! as can be seen by the polls.
With Obama it is the same. Obama probably has some agenda he thinks is good for the country. Right now many people do not agree and do not think he is moving our country in the right direction as can also be seen by the polls. 56.5% feel the country is not going in the right direction.
http://forums.plentyoffish.com/addpost.aspx?PostID=13288159&x=47&y=8
Racial slurs, and name calling is not the answer to a debate.  | |
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| Race Baiting and Name Calling
Posted: 10/18/2009 10:52:37 AM | | Killene, what does the phrase "go back to the porch" mean to you? What are your thoughts on it? Do you personally find it offensive? | |
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| Race Baiting and Name Calling
Posted: 10/18/2009 10:55:57 AM | I think a better question that the clip presents is "Can you have a racial slur if the statement comes from someone of your own race?"
P.S. Actually, the most offensive part of the clip to me was at 1:05 when Bill had faint hip-hop music playing under the two arguing black guys. | |
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| Race Baiting and Name Calling
Posted: 10/18/2009 11:44:43 AM | .
Williams is just trying to Suck up to FOX for money........... defending Rush is sad.......... | |
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Posted: 10/18/2009 12:19:03 PM | | OF course it is possible for people of the same race to use Racial slurs... a racial slur is based on the speakers belief that they are in some way superior to the other person the racial slur is an attempt to demean the other person. Thats like when White people call other whites, "White Trash" that is a racial slur that conveys the belief that the speaker is somehow higher class or somehow superior to the other person. So when a Black tells another Black to "get back on the Porch that is most definitely a Racial slur.".... | |
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| Race Baiting and Name Calling
Posted: 10/18/2009 12:50:44 PM | Well, I think the difference is that "white trash" is really an insult geared at economic status not race; especially if used by a white person to another white person.
The same way when whites refer to other whites as "carpetbagger" or "redneck". Those insults are not really racial, they refer to a regional part of the country where someone is from. But insulting a race that the insulter is also a member of just doesn't make sense to me; like white people calling other white people "honkey". That's not really an insult.
In the video, I think Juan was being insulted for compromising his political views in order to maintain a position on Faux News. There's racial implications there (i.e., that Juan is only retained by Faux because of his race) but the insult is really more aimed at political integrity. | |
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| Race Baiting and Name Calling
Posted: 10/18/2009 12:55:01 PM |
... name calling to debate against a conservative agrument. I see conservatives calling names at the liberals as much as I see the opposite. It's not a one-way street if that's what is being inferred in the original post.
I also see people in here calling names in all kinds of threads ... not necessarily just the "political" threads. | |
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Posted: 10/18/2009 1:31:51 PM | | It is obviously a racial slur I guess it it difficult for Liberals to see when they are in agreement with the speaker but it is a racial slur none the less...........Juan explained what it meant to him as a Black man,,,,he took it as a Racial slur as the speaker intended....How did he compromise his political views? They are his aren't they? I have seen Juan many times when I used to have cable he and I usually are in disagreement on pretty much everything but this time I think he got it right.... | |
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| Race Baiting and Name Calling
Posted: 10/18/2009 1:51:27 PM | Yea, the world does seem like a really negative place if you only watch faux news
According to the US Department of Justice there are approximately 5.2 million violent crimes committed in the US in any given year. And for every 1,000 persons age 12 or older, there occurred 1 rape or sexual assault and 1 assault with injury.
~Approximately 896,000 children were found to have been victims of abuse or neglect—an average of more than 2,450 children per day according to CPS and an average of nearly four children die every single day as a result of child abuse.
We've been at war for nearly nine years, our economy is crap and our people are losing their jobs faster than you can say "Obama Doesn't Seem To Be Saving Us".
Beggin yer pardon, but our world is a negative place. | |
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| Race Baiting and Name Calling
Posted: 10/18/2009 2:19:43 PM |
Beggin yer pardon, but our world is a negative place.
Try telling that to this guy --->  | |
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| Race Baiting and Name Calling
Posted: 10/18/2009 4:01:52 PM | I don't see it as a racial slur but I do definitely see it as an insult. He obviously doesn't think much of Juan Williams.
Funny thing about Juan. One of his guests was Tammy Bruce. I wonder if he ever saw this on her web page.
http://tammybruce.com/2009/10/breaking-nobel-committee-announces-another-peace-prize-winner.html
Now I consider that racist. | |
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| Race Baiting and Name Calling
Posted: 10/18/2009 4:39:09 PM |
Why is it so popular to use the race card, racial slurs and name calling to debate against a conservative agrument.
Because they CAN, Killene. Liberals of all ethnicities are going to milk that one for all its worth as long as they can get away with it. | |
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| Race Baiting and Name Calling
Posted: 10/18/2009 5:35:41 PM | http://tammybruce.com/2009/10/breaking-nobel-committee-announces-another-peace-prize-winner.html
Now I consider that racist.
Now that is too funny TY.....
I loved seeing Tammy's pet digging into the cracker jack box and do agree with Tammy. | |
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| Race Baiting and Name Calling
Posted: 10/18/2009 5:42:40 PM |
I don't see it as a racial slur but I do definitely see it as an insult. He obviously doesn't think much of Juan Williams.
A "porch monkey" is a derogatory term for a black man. If a white person had told Williams to get back on the porch you can be sure people on the left, like Jimmy Carter, would (rightly) say that this was a racial slur and demand an apology. | |
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| Race Baiting and Name Calling
Posted: 10/18/2009 6:21:00 PM |
A "porch monkey" is a derogatory term for a black man. If a white person had told Williams to get back on the porch you can be sure people on the left, like Jimmy Carter, would (rightly) say that this was a racial slur and demand an apology.
He was basically calling him an "Uncle Tom". He was insulting him definitely, he was putting him down but the context of one African-American saying that to another is different from a Caucasian saying it. In a nutshell he was accusing Williams of selling out. | |
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| Race Baiting and Name Calling
Posted: 10/18/2009 6:32:31 PM |
He was basically calling him an "Uncle Tom". He was insulting him definitely, he was putting him down but the context of one African-American saying that to another is different from a Caucasian saying it. In a nutshell he was accusing Williams of selling out.
It doesnt matter who calls someone a racial slur, especially if the person does not like it.
I will make a bet Juan would be on a lot of hot seats if he had dared called Obama a "porch monkey". | |
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Posted: 10/18/2009 6:35:00 PM | Sure he probably would.
I am curious, did you make any posts about the racist signs and emails that get sent around about Obama? Did you say anything about the racist birthers? What about all the racist comments from Rush Limbaugh which is why that bit happened with Williams.
I don't ever recall you saying anything about that.
Funny how the right get on there high horse all of a sudden. | |
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| Race Baiting and Name Calling
Posted: 10/18/2009 6:46:08 PM | Msg 22 said (I am curious, did you make any posts about the racist signs and emails that get sent around about Obama? Did you say anything about the racist birthers?)
Actually I am appalled at the racist, sexist and over the line signs and names that Bush Palin, Hillary and Obama have been called. On one of the political thread I said such.
I think name calling no matter what party you are is uncalled for.
I did not like Bush's administration and right now wish Obama would shape up and doing something more productive for our country. But I still have not stooped to name calling.
I even feel the use of "racist birthers' is a slur on people and their beliefs. | |
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| Race Baiting and Name Calling
Posted: 10/18/2009 6:51:42 PM |
I even feel the use of "racist birthers' is a slur on people and their beliefs.
You really think this would have been an issue if he was white? Don't fool yourself. There is a lot of racism involved in that movement. | |
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| Race Baiting and Name Calling
Posted: 10/18/2009 7:00:21 PM |
You really think this would have been an issue if he was white? Don't fool yourself. There is a lot of racism involved in that movement.
Interesting comment.
McCain showed his Birth Certificate because some questioned his birth place. I think last time I looked McCain is Caucasian. | |
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