| Would a Woman date a Man if she had a higher salary than him?
Posted: 10/21/2009 9:56:16 AM | I just read an article on msnbc discussing the changes in household salaries as a result of layoffs in this economy. More and more women and wives are becoming the sole breadwinners of their household, especially if the husband is unemployed. However, many women seem uncomfortable taking on the responsibility of the primary earner because it takes away from spending time with the children. In marriage, it seems that the traditional salary stigmas are still strong - that men should work and that women want to stay home to raise the children.
I'm sure this has been discussed many times, but there is greater urgency in this issue because Economic necessities dictate that the wife can no longer leave the workforce, but take on full-time employment responsibilities. More men are being forced to take care of household chores. It seems that social stigmas are giving way to economic realities. But is this the change that Women want for "Women's Equality"?
A lot of women want the "Choice" of being able to work or stay home and raise the family.
Especially when it come to Dating, would a Woman be willing to date a Man who is unemployed or makes significantly less than her? or does she want to marry a rich doctor if given the chance?
Are Men willing to date or marry a woman who is successful and hard-working? Will a Man be able to adjust his ego?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33196583/ns/business-consumer_news/ | |
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| Would a Woman date a Man if she had a higher salary than him?
Posted: 10/21/2009 10:05:28 AM |
A lot of women want the "Choice" of being able to work or stay home and raise the family.
Say what? I'd LOVE the "choice" of winning th elottery, but THAT ain't happenin'.
At this point in my life, I don't care what my man makes. I expect we will BOTH be retired in the fairly near future.
The problem arises mostly when people are having kids: it's VERY VERY difficult on the woman to be preggers, then have the kid, then be expected to go on out and make all the money. Men probably don't realize the depth of the effects of pregnancy on a woman, physically and emotionally. | |
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| Would a Woman date a Man if she had a higher salary than him?
Posted: 10/21/2009 10:08:07 AM | | no if i make really good money i wouldnt care how much the guy makes. If he is a hard working man treat me very nicely just happen to not make a lot of money that is totally fine. If he is just lazy and don't want to work then that's something else. | |
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| Would a Woman date a Man if she had a higher salary than him?
Posted: 10/21/2009 10:09:15 AM |
The problem arises mostly when people are having kids: it's VERY VERY difficult on the woman to be preggers, then have the kid, then be expected to go on out and make all the money. Men probably don't realize the depth of the effects of pregnancy on a woman, physically and emotionally.
But don't full-time employees get maternity leave and health care costs covered. Most full-time women get these benefits, even if the husband is working part-time. | |
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| Would a Woman date a Man if she had a higher salary than him?
Posted: 10/21/2009 10:09:37 AM | I would rather much be out working, than staying at home, and raising children. No thanks.
On the contrary, I would certainly be in an exlusive relationship with a man who brings in less income than I do. Just as long as he HAS a job that is.
Unless he lost his job, I refuse to support a man who is just out of work for the hell of it. | |
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| Would a Woman date a Man if she had a higher salary than him?
Posted: 10/21/2009 10:12:21 AM |
no if i make really good money i wouldnt care how much the guy makes. If he is a hard working man treat me very nicely just happen to not make a lot of money that is totally fine. If he is just lazy and don't want to work then that's something else.
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Do most women make "really good money." What is a salary that a woman makes that would make her comfortable to be independent or be with a man who is making less?
There are men who make a lot, and also men who are blue collar. Would a woman prefer to marry a rich guy if given the chance? | |
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| Would a Woman date a Man if she had a higher salary than him?
Posted: 10/21/2009 10:14:11 AM |
I would rather much be out working, than staying at home, and raising children. No thanks.
On the contrary, I would certainly be in an exlusive relationship with a man who brings in less income than I do. Just as long as he HAS a job that is.
Unless he lost his job, I refuse to support a man who is just out of work for the hell of it.
But what if the Man decided to be a stay-at-home dad. Would you be comfortable with the role-reversal of a woman working full-time and the Dad raising the kids, perhaps he was unemployed or lost his job. | |
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| Would a Woman date a Man if she had a higher salary than him?
Posted: 10/21/2009 10:43:06 AM | | I think the woman will take whichever men that are more compatible and have more in common with her. But if there are two men that are equally compatible and have things in common with her, she prob will chose the one with more money. | |
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| Would a Woman date a Man if she had a higher salary than him?
Posted: 10/21/2009 10:44:23 AM | But what if the Man decided to be a stay-at-home dad. Would you be comfortable with the role-reversal of a woman working full-time and the Dad raising the kids, perhaps he was unemployed or lost his job.
If we have children, and he lost his job, I wouldn't be too comfortable with him taking on being a stay at home dad. I would prefer for the both of us to work. But if it came to a point where we didn't have much of a choice, then I'd go with it.
Just as long as he's actually LOOKING for more work in the process of being a stay at home parent. | |
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| Would a Woman date a Man if she had a higher salary than him?
Posted: 10/21/2009 10:46:39 AM |
Some women would, some women would not....we "women" are not a monolithic group.....
But would Men be willing to date or marry a women who makes more than him. Would men be willing to be a stay-at-home dad?
What about salaries for Full-Time females, can most women be expected to work full-time continuously for 40 years like men? Can women have a Full-Time career while being married to an unemployed man?
My point is that "Men are expected to work full-time" and that "some women don't want to work full-time or want the Husband to take care of her expenses." Is this right?
Does society traditionally encourage Women to be financially dependent on the Husband? Is it accepted that a woman serve as a "housewife" willingly? | |
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| Would a Woman date a Man if she had a higher salary than him?
Posted: 10/21/2009 11:04:31 AM | | i doubt any guys would want to be a stay-at-home dad, taking care of the house and kids is not as easy as ppl think. No the society does not encourage women to be financially dependent on the husband, its up to the individual. | |
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| Would a Woman date a Man if she had a higher salary than him?
Posted: 10/21/2009 11:24:42 AM |
i doubt any guys would want to be a stay-at-home dad
I think we have no idea how many guys would want to be or would be agreeable to being a stay-at-home dad if women were offering that up in any significant numbers, if it was at all a very real possibility or choice men were ever faced with making. Because women aren't offering it up, there's not much point in doing any surveys.
According the U.S. Census Bureau 143,000 men were stay-at-home dads in 2005. This number was up from 98,000 in 2003, but it's still a very tiny percentage -- something like 1 in 350. I doubt very many of these were intentional role reversal arrangements from the beginning.
"We extend existing research on men's labor force participation in three ways. First, we investigate men's preferences – what they want to do as opposed to what they actually do, or what is morally right to do. ... We find men' preferences are surprisingly non-traditional."
- from a 2007 Australian study
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| Would a Woman date a Man if she had a higher salary than him?
Posted: 10/21/2009 12:07:29 PM |
I think we have no idea how many guys would want to be or would be agreeable to being a stay-at-home dad if women were offering that up in any significant numbers, if it was at all a very real possibility or choice men were ever faced with making. Because women aren't offering it up, there's not much point in doing any surveys.
It would also depend on women's salaries and whether she could support the stay-at-home husband. | |
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| Would a Woman date a Man if she had a higher salary than him?
Posted: 10/21/2009 12:22:59 PM | The financial aspect IS part of it, men tend to make more money. But that's changing, too, and I DO have 2 personal friends who are stay-at-home dads (moms work), and one just stay-at-home man (no kids). So that's 3 out of , say, 100. I also know 3 stay-at-home moms (dads work), so they're equal in incidence in my group of friends. Many of my friends are not married at all, so don't count, I guess--and those that are, everyone else works whether they have kids or not. Actually--there is ONE case where the dad is the sole guardian, so he works AND has a baby (she left them, and works). Oh, wait, one BRAND new mommy of a disabled child works part-time (dad full-time).
I don't think it's a big issue any more if a woman makes more money.
What I DO think is a big issue is the guilt associated with bringing a child into the world, then leaving it with strangers to go work. | |
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| Would a Woman date a Man if she had a higher salary than him?
Posted: 10/21/2009 12:28:44 PM |
What I DO think is a big issue is the guilt associated with bringing a child into the world, then leaving it with strangers to go work..
The Reason most Men make more money is because there are more older men who have worked 40 years at Full-Time salaries and promotions. Most entry level pay is the same, but many women leave the work-force or work part-time.
If a woman dedicated herself, which is more common now, to life-long full time employment most industries would see equal salaries.
But more men also work in Higher-Paying Industries like Engineering and Finance. When there are more women as Full-time engineers then there will greater salary equality.
Should Women be guilty about leaving their kids in day-care? I guess its an economic necessity. There can be more baby-sitting from relatives if that helps. | |
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| Would a Woman date a Man if she had a higher salary than him?
Posted: 10/21/2009 12:29:44 PM | {{{Especially when it come to Dating, would a Woman be willing to date a Man who is unemployed or makes significantly less than her? or does she want to marry a rich doctor if given the chance?}}}
Depends on how HOT he is!!!! lol
I wouldn't mind dating a plastic surgeon.... why not he's rich and can make me young again.. lol | |
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| Would a Woman date a Man if she had a higher salary than him?
Posted: 10/21/2009 12:45:06 PM |
My point is that "Men are expected to work full-time" and that "some women don't want to work full-time or want the Husband to take care of her expenses." Is this right?
Traditional gender roles are still the gold standard. Yes there would seem to be some inequality when it comes to stay at home parents.
That said. I'd be very willing to be a stay at home dad if my wife made some big dollars. Think of all the home improvement projects a guy could do! | |
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| Would a Woman date a Man if she had a higher salary than him?
Posted: 10/21/2009 2:14:27 PM | Are Men willing to date or marry a woman who is successful and hard-working? Will a Man be able to adjust his ego? I think this is vastly exaggerating the egos of men(and totally understating the egos of women at the same time). There are a lot of men who would be more than willing to have the opportunity to be stay-at-home fathers. Right now most men really just have the choice to either work or be single(and still work), while women generally have the option to be a stay-at-home parent, work full-time or some combination of both(Which bugs me all the more when feminists try to argue that they should be entitled to both without any penalties, considering they already have way more flexibility than any of us have).
What stay-at-home fathers will really have to get over are the stereotypes, the discrimination and being excluded from all those "stay-at-home-mom's only" groups.
As long as he covers his own expenses, it really doesn't matter what he makes. Funny how a man with that same kind of expectation would automatically be considered an unromantic cheapskate by most women. | |
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| Would a Woman date a Man if she had a higher salary than him?
Posted: 10/21/2009 3:06:40 PM | | Ron, I'm beginning to susupect that YOU find the little princesses of the world to be the most appealing women, but you can't afford them, so instead you're going to derail every thread into a "women are golddigging hypocrites and men are innocent victims" direction. You gots problems, man. | |
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| Would a Woman date a Man if she had a higher salary than him?
Posted: 10/21/2009 4:00:51 PM | | no cass... I just read the news. I don't go out looking for "little princesses", I am just socially aware of them(although, they are really just a small part of the underlying issue). Yes, I will comment on the threads I find insulting, misandrist and/or encouraging sexist mentalities(which, yes, I do have a problem with and I think it's quite a natural reaction really). I never said that all women are gold digging hypocrites and that men are innocent victims either, you are just twisting words to personally attack me. | |
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| Would a Woman date a Man if she had a higher salary than him?
Posted: 10/21/2009 4:02:12 PM | CassaGo
I agree with everything Ron says. You can't seem to handle the truth and have a logical stance against it so you resort into shaming tactics instead.
If you don't agree with what Ron says, spill the beans. What's holding you back? | |
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