| What man or band is the Godfather of Heavy Metal? Let the debate begin!
Posted: 10/25/2009 1:53:49 AM | What was the first Heavy Metal band? Some say it was Sabbath, others Zepplin, still others say Deep Purple... Uriah Heep... Hawkwind... the list goes on. Who gets your vote as the Godfather of Metal?!
I would argue that Black Sabbath is the Godfather of Metal. They were the first band I ever heard with that undisputed different and heavy sound. Ozzy sang about dark things in dark times on top of crushing power chords and licks.
FYI do a google for "Metal: A Headbanger's Journey". This documentary is the best film on the genesis of Metal and the history there of.
Let us unite all ye Headbangers and let the debate begin!
P.S. try to keep bloodletting to a minimum... you know... for health standards...  | |
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| What man or band is the Godfather of Heavy Metal? Let the debate begin!
Posted: 10/25/2009 3:13:02 PM |
Sabbath for certain, although you could make a case for Jimi Hendrix, too.
Wow, I did not even consider Hendrix. I have allays said he was a good 15 to 20 years ahead of his time. Perhaps amazing guitar solos can be traced back to Hendrix. But Hendrix was acid rock often heavily infused with jazz chords. Awesome music for sure, but I am not sure if I could go as far as saying a serious contender for the Godfather of Metal. | |
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| What man or band is the Godfather of Heavy Metal? Let the debate begin!
Posted: 10/25/2009 3:21:19 PM | | Hendrix was not metal, agreed. But he did lay the foundation for hard rock/metal in both playing and showmanship - think flaming guitars and picking with teeth, etc. In the same way that Cream or Vanilla Fudge were not metal, but found the path. Sabbath *was* metal. | |
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| What man or band is the Godfather of Heavy Metal? Let the debate begin!
Posted: 10/25/2009 3:22:42 PM |
Definitely Black Sabbath. Lots of important contributors and innovators like Iron Butterfly, Cream, Blue Cheer, Motorhead, and Judas Priest though.
I agree mam. One could easily argue that a heavy band like Iron Butterfly is the Godfather and I would have a tough time arguing against it. The late 60' to the mid 70's had some kick azz Godfather worthy bands.
Hey, do a google for "focus hocus pocus" and check out the live version of the song. Here is link but not sure the powers that be on PoF allow such... but here is goes anyway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpV5InLw52U
The guy on guitar does some insanely fast note for note picking that just melts my mind. Love this video! | |
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| What man or band is the Godfather of Heavy Metal? Let the debate begin!
Posted: 10/25/2009 3:24:05 PM | | Hands down, Sabbath, power chords. Deep Purple...that damn organ rules them out. Zep can be attributed to head banging, but not the metal so much. Hendrix...uh, no, too blues based. Halford though, perfected it. Halford was indeed the Metal God...oddly enough. | |
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| What man or band is the Godfather of Heavy Metal? Let the debate begin!
Posted: 10/25/2009 3:28:40 PM |
Hendrix was not metal, agreed. But he did lay the foundation for hard rock/metal in both playing and showmanship - think flaming guitars and picking with teeth, etc.
Great point man. Hendrix was the consonant showman to be sure. I think many of the more flamboyant acts owe Hendrix and Alice Cooper a debt of gratitude for their groundbreaking theatrics. | |
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| What man or band is the Godfather of Heavy Metal? Let the debate begin!
Posted: 10/25/2009 3:41:24 PM |
Hands down, Sabbath, power chords. Deep Purple...that damn organ rules them out. Zep can be attributed to head banging, but not the metal so much. Hendrix...uh, no, too blues based. Halford though, perfected it. Halford was indeed the Metal God...oddly enough.
Yup, I gotta agree. Wait, where is the debate here... so far I just agree with everyone!!!
Sabbath I have allays equated with the more classical infused minor mode Metal that I just ****ing love! Zeppelin I allays equated with the more pentatonic and major based modes that tends to be used more by hard rock, but also Metal acts like GNR and Faster pussycat. Still Metal, but not in the realm of the Godfather of Metal... Black Sabbath. | |
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| What man or band is the Godfather of Heavy Metal? Let the debate begin!
Posted: 10/25/2009 3:51:26 PM | | Sabbath - consistently HEAVY from the get go with their first track " Black Sabbath " . Iron Butterfly ? Because of one song ? Don't tell me " Flowers and Beads " is heavy ! I think they're one of the bands Spinal Tap was making fun of ! Hendrix, Cream, and Zep were blues based, you can't consider Zep just cuz of the odd song like " Immigrant Song " when they also had " Babe I'm Gonna Leave You " or " Your Time is Gonna Come " . So, I guess I'm arguing that Sabbath gets the title for consistency and pioneering ( " Voodoo Chile " or " Purple Haze " may have been close but nothing compared to the hauntingly heavy opening of " Black Sabbath " ). | |
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| What man or band is the Godfather of Heavy Metal? Let the debate begin!
Posted: 10/25/2009 5:21:24 PM | I don't think bloodletting is needed- thankfully. Most seem to be in agreement as far as Ozzy & Tomi Iomi (did I sp. that right)?
Don't lose sight of Procol Harum!!
A lot of people mentioned Hendrix, Cream (that would be Eric Clapton). They were def 60s style blues RnR. Hendrix totally crossed into metal territory for his time (think Voodo Chile Revisted or anything on Electric Ladyland) -tho' he's not metal as we know it now - like speed or death. The disappointing thing about Hendrix is that we will never know if would have gone truly metal as time went on.
In my opinion, Clapton doesn't really belong in this particular discussion.
At the time (pre-Woodstock 1) everything else hard was blues infused - psychedelic like Hendrix, Pink Floyd, Beatles, Who, Jefferson Airplane. All of those were def Rock, but IMO not metal, and I am thinking most predate Ozzy.
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I for one agree with Deep Purple as I think they pre date Sabbath also - tho' I'd have to look it up to be certain. Also Zep, when Led Zepplin 1 came out it was considered heavy by us local kids, it was the heaviest thing around at that time....except for Deep Purple & Procol Harum. | |
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| What man or band is the Godfather of Heavy Metal? Let the debate begin!
Posted: 10/25/2009 6:28:18 PM | I'd like to say sabbath, and I will. But I think other music also had a great impact on what became known as Metal. Led Zeppelin was often called a "Heavy" band. Jimi Hendrix had a style that was conducive to metal, what with his tone and technique and all. And there are those who say that classical music also has a line drawn to metal, but that's just poppycock.
Also, I have seen A Headbangers Journey, and I recommend the "sequel" to that called Global Metal, which covers metal as it exists in countries you may not even expect (one part deals with an Iranian Metal band that is forbidden from playing unless they remove the vocals, turn down the volume, and play sitting down, lest the crowd get too hyped from the "angry" music). | |
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| What man or band is the Godfather of Heavy Metal? Let the debate begin!
Posted: 10/26/2009 4:48:32 PM | Its not even close, Black Sabbath all the way. They were the true originators of metal music. If you hear Sabbath live with modern technology they are amazingly heavy.
Hendrix, Cream, the Yardbirds, Iron Butterfly, and of course Led Zeppelin are all influential in various ways. But when it comes to true metal, its all about Black Sabbath. | |
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| What man or band is the Godfather of Heavy Metal? Let the debate begin!
Posted: 10/27/2009 8:18:20 AM | Sabbath may have opened up a new realm.
I believe Death deserves credit for "Death" metal, along with Morbid Angel.
they took it to another level in the late 80's early 90's. Pure genius.
http://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=eBfiN849Utc&feature=related
A song off their '87 album "Scream Bloody Gore" | |
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