| isn't it just horrible ?
Posted: 10/27/2009 5:47:40 PM | isn't it just horrible, the rate of which our children are being abducted and murdered viciously? seems like almost everyday we hear of a child being lost, kidnapped, raped, tortured or murdered. this is so sickening, it shakes the very foundation of who we . it resides deep in the very core of our human society, and cannot be tolerated any more , there is no excuse to allow this to go on ...
for all those with children, you need not wonder which sex is primarily chosen, it's worse then sick - its perversion and madness at its height. honestly, i would like to see some sort of concentrated program to address this catastrophic emergency we are now facing. talk about stimulus money? lets apply some of those billions to where we really need it - protecting our young in whatever way we can. obviously the scope of this is huge, encompassing sex offenders, other youth, mentally unstable people - you name it ... this will be a very hard problem to make headway on but - we absolutely need, and must start to focus on it now & focus in a BIG way. i am just so sad, to hear everyday of a young person being taken advantage of, to die in such a horrible way - the poor children, the stricken families | |
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Posted: 10/27/2009 5:57:21 PM | Offhand, I think you prolly need to watch less news. To my knowledge children have always been prey. We simply talk about it more today. Do what you can in your own community, and let the rest go.
Namasté | |
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Posted: 10/27/2009 7:21:22 PM | | isn't this the wrong place to be talking about this? Oh well i suppose i'll try and answer this the best i can and try to be the good guy in this matter. You seem to be judging a people with the stereotype of the few in this matter. If you want to point figures then you will not like the facts that come from it since those of the Majority would be place in the front line. The very few that rape, murder, and stalk our children are rare, but without them we would also never know what these inhumane crimes are. Don't be to quick to judge a man/woman by the actions of a few. As i stated I'll try to be the good guy in this and the truth is sometimes though the good guy may not like it he/she must protect the rights of the evil as well as that or yours. So your attack on these so called raper, murders and what not is more out of rage and anger cool down before you strike, and next time learn when a bullet is needed to kill. 'Cuase pointing a gun is easy, killing takes not only the will to do so, but a part of that person that will never be able to be returned. | |
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Posted: 10/27/2009 7:49:17 PM | | I, for one, can not understand why it is not mandated that a male whom is convicted of a felony sexual offense(s) does not, can not, receive castration as part of his sentencing. | |
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Posted: 10/27/2009 8:21:06 PM | thank you for bein' a good guy somxai (wink)... my attack on those abstractions of humanity, the type that kidnap- torture or kill children ... those "few" as you would say - was ment to be more out of concern and worry, then rage and anger.
"you seem to be judging a people with the stereotype of a few in this matter" ... no, that wasn't my intent, i wanted to focus some attention on what seems to me, to becoming more previlent lately - news or no news, it's happening fairly fequently. you'd think in this time of more awareness we would have a greater advantage in prevention .
"without them, we would also never know what these inhumane crimes are" ... i think we know what inhumane is somxai, we don't need them around showing us . possibly ? we might concentrate a bit more on trying to find out who they are, before they act - i'm sure there might be ways to do that without infringing on others rights. i just feel we need to try harder then we are.
"good guy may not like it he/she must protect the rights of the evil as well as that of yours" < i have no problem with that, but i do with any system that would allow anyone to live - once they have been convicted of a horrible crime, ending in the death of a child.
ps- sorry if i put this in the wrong topic | |
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Posted: 10/27/2009 9:37:44 PM | "without them, we would also never know what these inhumane crimes are" ... i think we know what inhumane is somxai, we don't need them around showing us . possibly ? we might concentrate a bit more on trying to find out who they are, before they act - I'm sure there might be ways to do that without infringing on others rights. i just feel we need to try harder then we are.
Unfortunately in a world like ours to rid of the world of all evil such as these others will spring from the chaos of the order. All we can do is be a shield and attempt to protect those children as best as we can. As the soldiers code would go " I reluctantly accepted the thought of eternal loneliness…Should I fail". In the end many things we set out to do. We often fail, due to the fact that it takes 2 sides to create anything. The Thailand King attempted to do this. In the end it ended with 100,000 dead criminals who dug their own grave and drowned in a pit of mud. Due to these events the Laos government rebelled. As much as any soldier or law abiding citizen would love to drop them all on an island and nuke them. The law or rather our "constitution" would not allow it.
"i have no problem with that, but i do with any system that would allow anyone to live - once they have been convicted of a horrible crime, ending in the death of a child. "
As humans we are not God. We do not choose who lives and who dies. They committed crimes that most will say is horrible. We however do not live in king Hammurabi's time. We live in a world that is free. Some use that freedom for wrong doing. This is our world it is sad, but we have no choice but to live here. | |
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Posted: 10/27/2009 9:40:15 PM | | oh and Sparkling the answer to that is something the US call the bill of rights >.<. Yes criminals hide behind it as well. This is a classic example of something meant to be good used for the wrong reason. | |
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Posted: 10/27/2009 9:57:00 PM | "they committed crimes MOST will say is horrible" .... who the f*ck are you trying to kid? i've been talking about vicious crimes that take childrens lives. any who don't think this is horrible, need to re-evaluate there pitiful existance
as humans, we have the ability to do away with murderous scum - and i believe it is in our best interests to do so. there are different opinions on many things, maybe you shouldn't forget that piece of valuable information somxai.
"this is our world it is sad, but we have no choice but to live here" < have you ever heard the term "bullshit" , my friend. i think now - is a good time, for you to bend over and kiss your un-thankful ass brother - that your fortunate enough to be living, when and where you do  | |
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Posted: 10/28/2009 7:58:46 AM | ^^^^ i'm so sorry, the only thing i could think of before writing this was - it breaks my heart what is happening to some of our children. i didn't see the "off topic" forum, i apologize | |
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Posted: 10/28/2009 7:59:31 AM |
I, for one, can not understand why it is not mandated that a male whom is convicted of a felony sexual offense(s) does not, can not, receive castration as part of his sentencing
What would happen in he case of a wrongfull conviction?
What do you think should be done to the females convicted? | |
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Posted: 10/28/2009 11:18:55 AM |
What would happen in he case of a wrongfull conviction?
With today's forensic technology, such as irrefutable DNA proof, I feel safe in assuming that wrongful conviction of a felony sexual offense is an extremely minute possibility.
** Omg... My sincere apologies, Clockwork! Thank you for not freaking out on me, as I'm sure my unintended polarization, resulting in heavily insinuating that it is only males that commit these crimes; and, that even if not, it should be only males that should be radically punished for felony sexual offenses, IS appallingly unjust. **
What do you think should be done to the females convicted?
The exact same: Castration.
Correction: I, for one, cannot understand why it is not mandated that a person whom is convicted of a felony sexual offense(s) does not, can not, receive castration as part of their sentencing. | |
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Posted: 10/28/2009 11:35:13 AM |
this is a wrong FORUM to talk about this.
lea
The OP acknowledges that this should have been posted in the off-topic forum Lea, two posts above you. :rolleyes:
IMO though, it's not so wrong that the OP posted this in THIS forum -- his grievance IS a topic of Heart Break. | |
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Posted: 10/28/2009 5:18:39 PM | this is a wrong FORUM to talk about this.
why? is this form not for things that lie heavy on ones heart...henceforth broken hearts...or are you now deciding what qualifies as a broken heart... | |
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Posted: 10/28/2009 5:28:03 PM | | somxai...it seems to me that the op is judging nobody... only seems to be distraught about the violence inflicted on children, and feels that we should invest billions on finding ways of protecting out young....like many other liberal minded A-holes that are determined to waste time and money on a complex solution..... when a simple twenty dollars worth of rope would suffice! | |
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Posted: 10/28/2009 5:52:43 PM | seems about right Doglife I'm done trying to put sense into a morons head. If he feels he can make a nation stand and shoot every so call child murder. He's more then welcome to that jail cell. Cause like it or not murder is murder be it a criminal you murder or an innocence. The law is the law even i as a government so call dog can't go above it. Oh and BTW OP try complaining to the right people like say your congressman/ congresswoman.
Oh and don't call me a brother "kiss your un-thankful ass brother" unless you have bled by my side in the combat zone. Un-thankful huh after seeing what i have seen in the combat zone these children killers are like street punks compared to the daily murders, rapes, and assaults of a combat zone. Un-thankful no in fact i am thankful we have a government that is what it is. It may not be perfect, but at least it tries. | |
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Posted: 10/28/2009 6:54:04 PM | M'k... first you don't agree with murder, then in your above post ^^^^ you are in agreement with Dogslife , sharing the opinion that $20 worth of rope (for use by which to fashion a noose to commit murder by hanging) , "seems about right", then turn right around in the same post, and state: "Cause like it or not murder is murder be it a criminal you murder or an innocence. The law is the law even i as a government so call dog can't go above it." followed by your "I'm a government dog/combat" rant.
And dogslife: IMO, your display of so much concern as to go as far as to challenge how anyone in particular should define Broken Heart to make it palpable to you in relation to where they open a discussion pertaining to what they feel to be a matter that is heart breaking. Idk... did you recently purchase POF? :laugh:
Whatever... :down:
Cocoa: True. As long as there IS a society, there will always be an element of human evil within it. I would think that to castrate as a part of sentencing though, would considerably reduce the sexual offenders repeating their offense(s) once released from prison. When it comes to the specific matter of sexual offense, or murder, of children, it's pretty widely known that when a convicted offender, or murderer, enters prison, fellow inmates are readily waiting at the gate to greet them with exacting their own manner of justice upon them.
Ugh... enough for me with this thread.
** Thread over, and out... G'Nite, folks ** | |
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Posted: 10/28/2009 7:01:34 PM | You can't fight it, you can but protect yourself, and make the right decisions.
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Posted: 10/28/2009 10:35:18 PM | | ~SparklingRose~ before you judge me on my post read the damn post and comprehend what was written. I never agreed to murder i was simply stating that if he so chooses to murder then do so but in the act he can go to the state prison. | |
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Posted: 10/29/2009 12:32:13 AM | | please tell me .. let it go where? that is why it happens because people like you expect it therefore allow it to happen! | |
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Posted: 10/29/2009 12:36:31 AM | | btw if your going to use radio code "** Thread over, and out... G'Nite, folks **" at least use it right "Thread over" means you want someone to answer your call. "** Thread over, and out" would only be used like never since "Out" means just that your cutting the convo. In short by saying ** Thread over, and out*** you pretty much say reply to me. Your order in which it was place was also out of order. next time say ***G'night folks...Thread Out *** that would be the correct way to say it. | |
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Posted: 10/29/2009 1:36:19 AM | Dogslife: I just now was going through "My Forums" and, mistakenly clicked this link, meaning to check on the thread that was listed just above it. Once I leave a thread behind, I leave it behind - as in the thread is no longer in existence.
In this case though, I'm so glad I mis-clicked!! I re-read your above post pertaining to this thread being placed in the wrong forum, and because it was typed with out the quoting (quoting Lea, as I had) I misread it to mean you were bashing the OP's initiating his topic here, and well.... went off in retaliation myself, of your - MY misinterpretation of - your comment.
I humbly apologize.
Now, of course, having re-read Dogslife, and found myself having to correct, and apologize for, my mistake (dang, that's twice now...  ) Yes. I re-read yours somxai - and yes, your following post, also. My original response to your comment(s) stands - I quoted you directly, and in the re-reading of it, found I had not misinterpreted what you wrote. Your response, claiming to have written something completely different in rebuttal to my response, as some lame attempt to claim that I can't read, or insinuate that I lack comprehension skills, is at best, just that: "Lame".
Now, as to your little anal retentive mini-rant/class concerning "radio code" ? -- ** shrug -  ** -- I found it amusing... 
So, in appreciation of making me laugh, I will now bid a FINAL adieu to this thread Your Way  :
** G'Night folks... Thread Out ** 
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Posted: 10/29/2009 6:40:06 AM |
With today's forensic technology, such as irrefutable DNA proof, I feel safe in assuming that wrongful conviction of a felony sexual offense is an extremely minute possibility.
That would be small consolation to this fellow in the following article.
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060203/WFIVE_justice_060203/20060204?hub=WFive
Even in this day of DNA evidence, all it takes are "expert" witnesses to get the testimony wrong and a man can spend years in prison.
Imagine upon coming out, not only would he have missed the prime years of his life, but he would have to live as a castrated man.
How would society make that up to him? I don't think any amount of money would compensate for that. | |
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