| The Importance of Deep Squats as Part of Your Routine
Posted: 10/28/2009 11:03:11 AM | The Importance of Deep Squats as Part of Your Routine
Much truth AND humor:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nppzGV1U8y8
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| The Importance of Deep Squats as Part of Your Routine
Posted: 10/28/2009 11:23:46 AM | I've watched that before and found it hilarious.
However, I don't agree with it. While I agree that the back squat is the single best mass building exercise out there, it's definitely not essential. There are plenty of huge paraplegic bodybuilders out there, and tons of bodybuilders with awesome physiques (especially tall ones) who don't back squat.
If someone benches, chins, overhead presses, rows, deadlifts, curls, close grip presses, does all the accessory stuff like lateral raises, skullcrushers, leg extensions and curls (and other types of deadies for the hams and glutes) and close stance front squats, leg presses, single legged squats, etc. then they will have complete physique development, quads included. | |
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| The Importance of Deep Squats as Part of Your Routine
Posted: 11/9/2009 4:03:36 PM | Squats do not just make your legs grow. Squats make everything grow. Remember your torso is supporting that weight on your shoulders and all the muscles that are involved to balance that weight as you go up and down and it stimulates all your hormones to boot.....and last but far from least... you will get a really nice ass from deep squats and the ladies LOVE a great ass on a man.
Isn`t that right ladies ?  | |
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| The Importance of Deep Squats as Part of Your Routine
Posted: 11/9/2009 4:55:02 PM | Absolutely!!
But you don't have to do squats with weights (or on a machine)...you can also do squats on a BOSU (dome up, or dome down) thus working your muscles AND your balance.
If ya get really creative, you can add a medicine ball and full-arm extensions, or twisty movements to work the core. | |
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ImJZ
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Joined: 11/2/2009
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| The Importance of Deep Squats as Part of Your Routine
Posted: 11/11/2009 5:19:17 PM | | As a stand-alone exercise, or as part of a limited number of exercises in a routine, the squat is invalueable. But if you're doing exercises that cover all other muscle groups, then the squat isn't really necessary and can be replaced by the leg press. Personally, I do "stiff" legged deadlifts and leg presses, which cover the same muscle groups that squats cover, so doing squats would be redundant and of little value, if any. | |
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Glen_Q
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Joined: 11/6/2009
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| The Importance of Deep Squats as Part of Your Routine
Posted: 11/11/2009 9:57:51 PM | while squats my not be a necessity, there is no replacing it, unless it is a variation of the squat, ie front, zercher, high bar.
leg press doesn't have the ROM.
close is the snatch (no not that one the exercise), and the clean and jerk.
deadlift also but this is not a direct replacement, good if you have an injury and can only deadlift.
squatting and decent weight on a ball, dome is unsafe, and you will not reach you strength potential doing them.
but if you are training just to stay in shape they are not a must. also if you do not have the time to learn to do them properly they are waste as well because ultimately you end up getting injured. | |
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| The Importance of Deep Squats as Part of Your Routine
Posted: 11/12/2009 6:26:12 AM |
What??? They're totally different movements.
yea.. hm.. well that is true haha.
the deadlift and squat are the biggest mass building exercises.. so if your not doing one, you are not maximizing your workout routine. | |
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| The Importance of Deep Squats as Part of Your Routine
Posted: 11/12/2009 11:24:17 AM |
yea.. hm.. well that is true haha.
the deadlift and squat are the biggest mass building exercises.. so if your not doing one, you are not maximizing your workout routine.
Not necessarily true. They may be lifts which don't particularly work very well with your specific body type and will be counterproductive to you achieving your goals. For example long legged individuals using primarily the back squat to build their quads.... not necessarily the best choice. | |
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| The Importance of Deep Squats as Part of Your Routine
Posted: 11/12/2009 1:31:43 PM | And how is the deadlift going to target the quads? What if the lifter has leverages that makes the deadlift a poor choice for a lower body exercise? What if the deadlift doesn't fit into their routine very well?
The truth is people like to label these exercises as essential when really they're not. Yes, they are excellent mass building exercises and should be included in a programme if appropriate, but plenty of successful bodybuilders don't do them because they're not appropriate for their body type.
For most people (at least those of average height and proportions, anyway) they are excellent choices though. | |
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| The Importance of Deep Squats as Part of Your Routine
Posted: 11/12/2009 2:21:44 PM |
the deadlift and squat are the biggest mass building exercises.. so if your not doing one, you are not maximizing your workout routine.
My left hip tends to buckle in when attempting squats or deadlifts...I've got CP that causes the muscles in my left leg to atrophy pretty severly...thus these motions aren't practical for me...
Lunges and ham/glute raises have worked wonders for me...not only do lunges work the entire leg...they also help build your balance in a way that squats never can...
I've seen massive gains in strength with these exercises...and from where I stand they are perfect replacements for squats and deadlifts | |
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| The Importance of Deep Squats as Part of Your Routine
Posted: 11/12/2009 3:25:13 PM | deadlifts and squats work out the whole body, some parts indirectly. They maximize hormone efficiency and do pretty much everything else you could ask for. if it doesn't fit in a routine, make it fit. If you do deadlifts, yea ur gunna have to do some leg extensions as well but the majority of your strength and mass gains are from the deadlift nonetheless.
i'd love to hear what successful bodybuilders i've heard that don't do a deadlift or squat.
tell ronnie coleman he should give the squats a rest and start doing some killer leg presses | |
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| The Importance of Deep Squats as Part of Your Routine
Posted: 11/12/2009 6:26:59 PM | Exercises like squats(even hack squats), leg presses, and deadlifts have been shown to actually boost testosterone levels. The key to squats and hack squats is to make sure you drop down far enough that your thighs are at least parallel to the ground or lower. I see so many people doing **** squats where they hardly drop down at all. I can't see how that's beneficial at all. These exercises are some of the best fat burning exercises, even for the mid-section. Once I started doing them, along with more walking, more fiber, less carbs, as well as decreasing the beer intake and drinking light beer most of the time, I lost 20 pounds in the past year.  | |
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| The Importance of Deep Squats as Part of Your Routine
Posted: 11/12/2009 6:33:36 PM |
These exercises are some of the best fat burning exercises, even for the mid-section.
There is no exercise that can target reduce fat on any area of the body.
Once I started doing them, along with more walking, more fiber, less carbs, as well as decreasing the beer intake and drinking light beer most of the time, I lost 20 pounds in the past year.
I bet if you remove everything you did except the squats you would see zero results as your diet is what will determine how much weight you will lose or gain, not if you are doing squats or not. | |
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| The Importance of Deep Squats as Part of Your Routine
Posted: 11/12/2009 6:56:45 PM | yea.. listen to the guy who's probably never done a real squat in his life.
I haven't done cardio in a year.. but i squat over 400..
i'm 6% bodyfat.
there is something to it.. i promise u | |
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ImJZ
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Joined: 11/2/2009
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| The Importance of Deep Squats as Part of Your Routine
Posted: 11/12/2009 9:18:00 PM |
i'd love to hear what successful bodybuilders i've heard that don't do a deadlift or squat.
They're out there. I never saw the standard deadlift or the standard squat in Dorian Yates' routines.
As far as Coleman, someone SHOULD have told him to give up squats and deadlifts a long time ago with the size of his midsection, lol. | |
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Glen_Q
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Joined: 11/6/2009
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| The Importance of Deep Squats as Part of Your Routine
Posted: 11/12/2009 10:14:31 PM | dexter jackson did not do either, until 4-5 years ago he started dead lift.
body builders should not be apart of the convo, since all pros are enhanced lifters, they eat like sh*t, train like sh*t and will end up looking better than 99% of people who go to the gym.
squats and deadlifts are complicated movements and can be dangerous for someone who does not know the movement. so for the casual lifter these are not essential. most people who workout are just trying to stay active. if you want to competetive in the world of strength, sports, and maybe natural BB then the arguement can be made that they essential.
to the guy claiming 6%. you do not look 6% in the pic in your avatar, so i doubt you are truely 6%. | |
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| The Importance of Deep Squats as Part of Your Routine
Posted: 11/13/2009 12:11:23 AM |
deadlifts and squats work out the whole body, some parts indirectly. They maximize hormone efficiency and do pretty much everything else you could ask for. if it doesn't fit in a routine, make it fit. If you do deadlifts, yea ur gunna have to do some leg extensions as well but the majority of your strength and mass gains are from the deadlift nonetheless.
i'd love to hear what successful bodybuilders i've heard that don't do a deadlift or squat.
tell ronnie coleman he should give the squats a rest and start doing some killer leg presses
Ronnie Coleman is 5'10" without proportionately long legs. The back squat is a good choice for his body type. And in case you missed it, he DOES do leg presses. But f you want examples, how about Lou Ferrigno or Dorian Yates? Or how about Googling "paraplegic bodybuilders?" Kind of hard to do either of those when you have no use of your legs.
I mean, seriously, do you honestly think these two lifts have some sort of magic powers where they will triple your rate of growth or something? Yes, they are amazing choices, but they're not essential. The amount of serious bodybuilders over 6'2" who back squat is quite small. As for deadlifting, is it the right choice for your body type? How long are your arms and legs? How far are you actually going to be moving the bar before your lower back gives out?
It's pretty ridiculous to recommend a one size fits all programme for everybody, regardless of differing body types, injury potential, etc. For the record, I both squat and deadlift but they're appropriate to my body type. I'm about to join a gym without a squat rack though and to be honest I'm expecting to keep growing. | |
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| The Importance of Deep Squats as Part of Your Routine
Posted: 11/13/2009 6:07:10 AM | ... i meant replacing his squats with the leg press.. And how bout you bring up bodybuilders in THIS ERA! when the science behind it has been perfected. paraplegics?? really gunna bring htem in this convo.
squats and deadlifts do improve your growth rate better than any other exercise actually.. there is no exact number but triple wouldn't sound too off from me.
there is really nothing you can say to make me think that one of those exercises isn't essential if you're taking your workout seriously | |
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