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Posted: 10/28/2009 5:52:15 PM | The ' I ' word---Islam
First,, I apologies -- for the use of the word Islamist.
A word the has many translations, however for this discussion it will serve as a catch-all for, the people who believe a physical jihad is what the world needs..
Question—Islam, I hear you----what do you want ??? | |
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Posted: 10/28/2009 5:59:19 PM | To Jihad is to struggle. The highest Jihad is against one's stray impulses which prevent one from realizing God. It is unfortunate that much of Islam has been co-opted for political motives.
As for Physical Jihad (war against 'infidels?), the world needs more peace, more understanding, more compassion, more tolerance... all around. I am not cool with quasi-indiscriminately suicide bombing civilians. | |
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Posted: 10/28/2009 6:54:51 PM |
A word the has many translations, however for this discussion it will serve as a catch-all for, the people who believe a physical jihad is what the world needs.. I've come across a lot of people who think that the world needs a war based on their ideology, their reasons, because they believe they are right, and everyone else is wrong. It might seem bizarre, but I don't think I've ever come across a group where some of its members didn't want such a war. We're no better or worse than anyone else. Maybe if everyone realised that, we wouldn't have wars. | |
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Posted: 10/28/2009 7:29:58 PM | How would you get the ones that fervently believe that "god" tells them that all must be converted to their brand of belief, to play nice? They won't listen to pleas, they don't care if they die, or at least they say they don't........
How do you convince them that what they want is not necessary?
Paul K | |
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Posted: 10/28/2009 7:51:27 PM |
How would you get the ones that fervently believe that "god" tells them that all must be converted to their brand of belief, to play nice? They won't listen to pleas
I've never known any muslims like that, but I have known some fundamentalist Christians who seem to hold that state of mind...Those are the guys I'd be more worried about. | |
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Posted: 10/28/2009 8:02:31 PM | I guess I just don't see enough debate regarding Islam.
Lots of debate within western religion, but when it comes to the 'I' word --its' like shhhh..
Seriously the Islamist movement--what dose it want?
The west out of the Middle East--death to all infidels -- collapse of the USA. death to Israel.
What ??
What is it all about ? This is no small movement, people are dying --- what would it take for the Islamist to say OK we're happy,, it's over !! | |
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Posted: 10/28/2009 8:07:11 PM | Wow--we're already up to two votes for delete---
See what I mean-- The ' I ' word --shhhhhhh... lol. | |
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Posted: 10/28/2009 8:55:26 PM | Five words--- that a hike numb nuts….
This is not a religious question—people are dying and it’s time we started talking about the causes.
Ok--- what is the ideology / philosophy behind the Islamist movement. | |
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Posted: 10/28/2009 9:43:38 PM | | The monotheistic religions all share similar beliefs they believe we are created in God's image, and that God is a merciful, dominant, powerful and transcending force. By doing God's will and following his commandments we become like God (not himself) but we become closer to him and share a relationship with him. In these religions the belief is that we are in slaved to our worldly desires and that by choosing to follow God and his righteous ideals we will free ourselves from slavery (or that God has freed us from slavery). Islam means submission to God, "thy will be done". Islam is about "peace and surrender from surrendering to the will of Allah", from chaos to harmony. | |
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Posted: 10/28/2009 10:11:14 PM | Jihadists that we hear about are using Islam as a scapegoat.
Someone mentioned “from chaos to harmony” yes but it takes a fool to believe that if HE / THEY create chaos that they are doing God’s work as claimed and that somehow that chaos will turn into harmony. Out of hatred comes only hatred, out of destruction only destruction.
Jihadists as spoken of have hijacked Islam, bombing shopping centres and targeting civilians, the frail, the children – they are doing more damage to Islam than anyone else has since the birth of Islam. | |
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Posted: 10/28/2009 10:35:18 PM | Page 2U The only thing I know about Islam (well there are other things  ) is like Christianity they seek converts and believe if you dont believe as they do you deserve to die if you dont convert. There has to be some philosophy in there someplace.
~Beth~ | |
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Posted: 10/28/2009 10:44:55 PM | | Throughout history, the invaders from whichever nation, epoch, war have conquered in the name of religion, all the while, what was REALLY at stake had more to do with building and or maintaining empire, trade and dominance, or the flip side-defending against the above invaders, blessed by the accepted God/prophet of the land-an age old story | |
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Posted: 10/29/2009 2:17:52 AM | Hmmmm. reading through the posts no wonder that the various Jihadists can get away with what you are getting away with.
yep dont look at the crime and the perpetrators blame religion, why not it's worked for centuries.
long live the Jihad against religion | |
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Posted: 10/29/2009 9:10:54 AM |
Question—Islam, I hear you----what do you want ???
Only an eminently sanctimonious frugal psyche would be oblivious to the answer to the most simplistic of all questions. While all the time playing ignorant to the fact that it is he, himself (generic), that is the harbinger of death, misery and destruction. The contingent aggressor merely a defensive player in his own land, forced derisively backwards into a wall without egress by a continuing series of foreign occupying armies and settlers bizarrely claiming to be on a mission from a God whom was originally indigenous to South-western Asia but whom was adopted, re-badged and re-turned brandishing an array of indefensible WMD.
A simple appraisal of the immediate past 2000 years of hostilities in South-western Asia will reveal the glaringly obvious source of the contagion. However, that appraisal should be non-partisan, completely disconnected of ethnic origins/loyalties and brand of religious philosophy for a sincere assessment.
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Posted: 10/30/2009 2:37:14 PM | Oh !!! – I see.
The attack is already pushed past the grounds of decency.
Hurtful moans lacking in, any desire for intelligent discourse.
If one has problems seeing the light they should open the door.
It was a honest question, to bad you’re locked in.
Hiding under a thin veil of anger---fine let the children die.. | |
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