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 interludesolo

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Posted: 10/29/2009 6:27:12 PM
Hi folks,

The Finnish minister of Health speaks out against the pandemic "swine flu" shot.

It only takes 6 minutes but very powerful. For you to believe or not , it's up to you!!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTgyakGAddM

Unless it's been removed at this point.
 interludesolo

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Posted: 10/30/2009 6:37:26 AM
It may have been pulled off youtube.

The premise of the Minister of Health is that governments are doing a propaganda
scare on the public and that there really is no pandemic. She suggests that the powers that be, pharmaceutical companies stand to make a lot of money as do the investors. Rumfelt,(spelling is wrong I know) being one of them. She also suggests that the purpose of promoting the shot is to control our booming world population, hence encouraging pregnant women, children and old people to be first in line to get the flu shot. Further, she claims when the first swine scare came out in 1976, the government was not prepared for the backlash when some people started to die from the shot and their loved ones were seeking
compensation for wrongful death. Apparently now,they are prepared and insurance companies have , aleigned with the government and will not cover this flu shot.

Something to think about.

 susan_cd

Joined: 5/16/2007
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Posted: 10/30/2009 8:51:01 AM

She suggests that the powers that be, pharmaceutical companies stand to make a lot of money as do the investors.


Well, if the vaccine is produced & shipped ( which it has been) to the clinics for administering to the public I'd think the pharmaceutical companies and investors have already made their money, whether we get the shot or not.
 interludesolo

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Posted: 10/30/2009 9:39:38 AM
Oh for sure Susan...

I'm not cynical by nature but nothing surprises me anymore...
remember Bush after 911 and his supporters constantly on the tube insisting that they must go to war because Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. Turns out they were WRONG and knew all along what they were doing, merely wanted to start a war and go into Iraq. Think of all the young men that died needlessly!
 flyin-high

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Posted: 10/30/2009 10:30:40 AM

if the vaccine is produced & shipped ( which it has been)
It hasn’t been produced or shipped, at least not enough to do the majority of the population… so we haven’t paid for it yet.

Like any other product, it’s released in small quantities and then the manufacturer sets out on a media campaign to promote it, the drug companies have to create a demand first. If their lucky, the campaign will reach critical mass, at which point they can sit back and watch it fly off the shelves.

A lot of drugs are also sold on a consignment basis, which means if doesn’t get used, it’s sent back to the manufacturer for refund, although this usually only applies to high volume pills.
 susan_cd

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Posted: 10/30/2009 1:45:10 PM

remember Bush after 911 and his supporters constantly on the tube insisting that they must go to war because Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. Turns out they were WRONG and knew all along what they were doing, merely wanted to start a war and go into Iraq


Well, WMD or not, the Iraq war may have been necessary ( they should have blasted the whole country into rubble until Saddam's head was delivered during the 1st Iraq war)... 'course if Bush'd had any balls he would have arranged to smuggle a small primitive nuke into Iraq & detonated it... then he could have said "See? They have weapons of mass destruction... or at least they had one & someone must have screwed up" "
 susan_cd

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Posted: 10/30/2009 1:47:06 PM

It hasn’t been produced or shipped, at least not enough to do the majority of the population… so we haven’t paid for it yet.


I doubt the companies involved would make the vaccine unless they had a guarantee from the feds that the feds would purchase at least a minimum amount of the drug.... said minimum being enough to ensure they make big profits. THen anything made & sold after the minimum is added $$$$ for them.
 flyin-high

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Posted: 10/30/2009 3:00:28 PM

I doubt the companies involved would make the vaccine unless they had a guarantee from the feds
The swine flu vaccine was developed in 1976, and it’s nothing more than a slight modification of the bird flu vaccine which was developed in the late 1950’s - early 60’s

The modification process is quite simple, all flu vaccines are essentially the same, they just keep adding the DNA from which ever animal is infected… When you get the flu shot, their essentially shooting bird and pig DNA into your body.
 In/ To/ Me/ See

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Posted: 10/30/2009 3:10:26 PM
OMG!! Thanks for that information...would that not make you sick or more susceptable to getting the virus???? What if your immnune system is already compromised???
 printer2

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Posted: 10/30/2009 7:48:25 PM
Finnish minister of Health, boy they are srapping the barrel.

Her thoughts on mind control.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztDjYWK0k9A

On her UFO experience.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28WtLVyNKTA&feature=related

And even more looniness.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rauni-Leena_Luukanen-Kilde
 interludesolo

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Posted: 10/31/2009 5:03:37 PM
Hi Printer,

So your saying this women is a flake is that it?

Alrighty then...had this e-mailed to me without any background of the women speaking.
Wasn't aware she was loonytunes!

Still don't like the thought of injecting bird and swine into me!
 Dudleyh45

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Posted: 11/1/2009 11:15:11 PM

Still don't like the thought of injecting bird and swine into me!


Must be vegetarian.
I know i won't be getting it, it hurts getting stuff squirtted into the muscle. I can remember that from when i was a kid.
 armaegis

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Posted: 11/3/2009 9:12:15 AM
I think the real winners against swing flu are the people who make those little hand sanitizer things. You see them everywhere now; on the walls, by the stairs and elevators, on every cabinet corner in every office building.
 simplelife1

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Posted: 11/4/2009 3:31:47 PM
Dudley, please research all you read before you make accusations. It was actually Norbert Weiner who published the book in 1946 who claimed this actually happened. Not Luukanen-Kilde, she was just talking about his book. She did not claim she knew this happened. Here is a few quotes from his book.
"The first brain implants were surgically inserted in 1974 in the state of Ohio, USA and also in Stockholm, Sweden. Brain electrodes were inserted into the skulls of babies in 1946 without the knowledge of their parents. In the 1950s and 60s, electrical implants were inserted into the brains of animals and humans, especially in the U.S., during research into behavior modification, and brain and body functioning. Mind control (MC) methods were used in attempts to change human behavior and attitudes. Influencing brain functions became an important goal of military and intelligence services.

Im quite sure you misunderstood.
 printer2

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Posted: 11/4/2009 4:27:54 PM
Hey simple, if you want to get things right it was not Dudley posting on the flaky thoughts of Luukanen-Kilde. First off, how am I making accusations? All I did was post a few links of the lady speaking her mind. She brings up the paranormal and said 67% of people in the world have paranormal experiences, and telepathy that can be used to communicate to the dead.

Her thoughts on 'they' are experimenting on single women and make them disappear. She tells us that non-lethal weapons to control us using electromagnetic waves are being used by the government. That contrails from airplanes (the white lines in the sky as airplanes pass overhead) are implanting microchips in our bodies.

I am not sure what I misunderstood. She is telling people about a H1N1 conspiracy which people may take seriously. I would guess people would think twice about her credibility after hearing her speak.
 peek~a~booo

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Posted: 11/8/2009 6:42:38 AM
this is not even a decision for me... lil darlin you will see left wing in lots of places....if it is worth anything i already did both shots..standard flu and h1....to each there own...goodluck with your deciosion...........

one in each arm together....goodluck!
 Rozzko

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Posted: 11/23/2009 9:15:55 PM
There is no compensation plan in Canada except Quebec. Most developed nations have a program, not Canada. Canada simply denies it happens, or claims the damage is the result of "an underlying disorder" (did you see SICKO?). Or they blame genetics because people know squat about genetics and believe it cause they're ignorant. Vaccine related damage and other human caused disorders such as autism, ADD, MS ALS any much much more is astronominal. GOOGLE VACCINE DAMAGE, and get educated about the lies and the criminal negligence causing death and damage that is a result of faulty and fragulent products that our governments allow these companies to use experimentally on us.
 susan_cd

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Posted: 11/26/2009 10:49:30 PM

GOOGLE VACCINE DAMAGE, and get educated about the lies and the criminal negligence causing death and damage that is a result of faulty and fragulent products that our governments allow these companies to use experimentally on us.



You could google & find as many scientists & groups saying the claims made by various groups about the dangers of vaccines are a result of faulty/misinterpreted research or self-serving interpretations of the data ( especially in cases involving litigation in the US); a lawyer starting a lawsuit to sue some company or other can always find a scientist with research to prove any point the lawyer's trying to make.

The bottomline is the H1N1 vaccine is not being forced on anyone, it's a matter of personal choice. If you feel getting the vaccine poses a greater risk than possibly getting H1N1 then don't get the vaccine. But if you don't get the vaccine & suffer serious illness fromH1N1 then don't expect much sympathy.

And I'm not sure what fragulent ( ???) products are, so I can't comment on them.
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