| Tubal Litigation Stories Posted: 10/30/2009 9:44:30 AM | I am scheduled to get my tubes tied in a couple of weeks, and I am just curious to see what sort of experiences other people have had.
I am not worried about second-guessing my decision, my two kids are 15 and 8 and I know for sure that I am not having any more.
I am wondering about things like pain afterwards, how long until sex was normal.....things like that.
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| Tubal Litigation Stories Posted: 10/30/2009 10:57:42 AM | Taking your tubes to court and suing them: tubal litigation.
Having your tubes tied as a means of permanent contraception: tubal LIGATION.
I don't have those kinds of tubes, but if I did, I think I'd rather do the second.
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| Tubal Litigation Stories Posted: 10/30/2009 11:05:51 AM | LOL----oops-- I am usually much more careful than that.....
All I would get out of those tubes are eggs anyway--- no point in suing them.... | |
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| Tubal Litigation Stories Posted: 10/30/2009 6:51:43 PM | | hi... I do not recommend it because of later issues with menopause, cycles and estrogen not to mention how unnatural it is for us to do that to our reproductive system.. hair loss, monthly pain, a feeling that there is something not quite right.. I do not think that they tell you any of that... blessings for the right decision | |
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| Tubal Litigation Stories Posted: 10/30/2009 7:23:54 PM | | Unlike twenty or more years ago now its a simple Band-Aid procedure as are many out patient surgeries. ~Beth~ | |
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| Tubal Litigation Stories Posted: 10/31/2009 1:36:26 PM |
I do not recommend it because of later issues with menopause, cycles and estrogen not to mention how unnatural it is for us to do that to our reproductive system.. hair loss, monthly pain, a feeling that there is something not quite right..
There are no issues with menopause, cycles, or estrogen through tubal ligation. The only procedure you would encounter issues like that are with a complete hysterectomy (which includes oophorectomies; or the removal of the ovaries). The ovaries are what, in women, produce the hormones. Without them, then yes you'd have estrogen issues and go into early menopause.
Tubal ligation severs the fallopian tubes, making it almost (although not completely) impossible for the ovum (egg) to reach the uterus and implant. There is nothing done to the hormone producing ovaries.
Hair loss is a side effect I have never, ever, ever heard of with tubal ligation. Neither is monthly pain beyond your normal menstrual cramping.
As for a feeling that something is not quite right? That's on an individual basis, I would presume. I don't think any of us can actually feel our fallopian tubes on a good day, let alone a year or so after they've been cut.
A tubal ligation is almost permanent. There are rare cases where the tubes DO manage to grow back together and connect but it doesn't happen often.
The procedure is usually done laparoscopically, but I have heard of them doing it vaginally now too.
It's a day procedure. There are different types of anesthetizing you. You could have a general anesthetic (which is where you are intubated) if the anesthesiologist decides that best. From what I've seen though, a common route is with local anesthesia to the port sites and sedation; making you unable to remember anything or feel anything.
The procedure lasts less than 2 hours. You go home the same day unless there are other complications. You'll have 2-4 small port site incisions, sutured and taped up.
You may have some pain depending on if the inflate your abdomen during the laparoscopic procedure. Sometimes they inflate the abdomen with gas to see better and that can be quite painful until the gas is absorbed by your body.
Tylenol 3s are usually provided, but you can ask your family physician for something stronger.
Bed rest for the first few days is usually recommended followed with light activities ( no heavy lifting, contact sports etc).
Generally, you are back to normal in about a week, 2 weeks. Sutures are either removed after 7 days or they absorb.
Bruising around the port sites is normal. Just watch for infections (rare).
All in all, it's not a difficult procedure but some physicians won't consider you unless you've had a few kids *which you have*, or are over 25 (I guess to make sure you really dont want kids).
The procedure IS reversible in some women, but it's a gamble on whether it will work or not. Sometimes it's successful and sometimes (most times) it isn't. So consider getting your tubes tied as permanent.
If you go for a hysterectomy, you can have them remove just the uterus and leave the ovaries intact. The hysterectomy is a bit more complicated and can be done either laparoscopically or vaginally. There is quite a bit more pain included in this procedure and I wouldn't recommend it unless you have endometriosis issues or extremely painful periods.
If you're only looking for birth control, tubal ligation is your best bet for surgical procedures. Just leave the ovaries in and you won't have any issues with hormonal changes.
Hope this was helpful :) | |
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| Tubal Litigation Stories Posted: 10/31/2009 4:30:30 PM | | hi^^^^ helpful in that you are stating your views, not so helpful if you are stating that your views come before the personal experiences of someone else... are you certain that tubal ligation will not affect a woman in the ways that I mentioned??... could it be that the process itself is so unnatural that hair loss is a side effect to procedure regardless of how simple it is, that the uterus will not have an egg present way b4 the natural cycle, do you think tubes growing back is a passive process, that the passing of the egg is natural and the body wants to fight the point where the tubes are blocked... have you ever studied the effects of manmade dams on natural environments... could it be possible that some women are so in tune with their bodies that they do feel things other women do not??.. helpful?? not if you have just convinced a woman to get the process and rest assured... blessings for health | |
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| Tubal Litigation Stories Posted: 10/31/2009 5:48:55 PM | | Tubal ligation has been reported to cause some unsavory side-effects, however, they are different for each person and the woman should consult her PCP as well as other women, if she knows any, who have had it done and decide for herself what form of birth-control will be the most low-impact for her. | |
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| Tubal Litigation Stories Posted: 10/31/2009 11:36:10 PM |
hi^^^^ helpful in that you are stating your views, not so helpful if you are stating that your views come before the personal experiences of someone else... are you certain that tubal ligation will not affect a woman in the ways that I mentioned??... could it be that the process itself is so unnatural that hair loss is a side effect to procedure regardless of how simple it is, that the uterus will not have an egg present way b4 the natural cycle, do you think tubes growing back is a passive process, that the passing of the egg is natural and the body wants to fight the point where the tubes are blocked... have you ever studied the effects of manmade dams on natural environments... could it be possible that some women are so in tune with their bodies that they do feel things other women do not??.. helpful?? not if you have just convinced a woman to get the process and rest assured... blessings for health
Sorry, but hair loss is a byproduct of hormonal problems due to injury to the ovaries. No injury to ovaries = no hair loss or hormonal issues.
The tubes growing back are more or less like hair growing back. Does your hair hurt after you get it cut?
I have a hard time believing women can feel their fallopian tubes. But if you want to think you can, be my guest.
I offered information, just as you did. It's up to each individual to decide which they want to believe and glean questions from.
Have a great day :) | |
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| Tubal Litigation Stories Posted: 11/1/2009 12:18:42 AM | | ^I think she is worried more about the surgery allowing ACCESS to the tubes, than the tubes themselves. All of the tubal ligations I saw done were performed during C-sections while they were already "in there", so I don't have much first-hand insite. | |
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| Tubal Litigation Stories Posted: 11/1/2009 4:05:43 PM | New Book Exposes Untold Side Effects of Tubal Ligation
The Coalition for Post Tubal Ligation Women announces the availability of a new book authored by the Coalition’s founder, Susan Bucher, titled “What Doctors Don't Tell You About Tubal Ligation and Post Tubal Ligation Syndrome (PTLS)”.
The book, the first of its kind, exposes that women have not been properly informed about the risks of tubal ligation, explains what post tubal ligation syndrome (PTLS) is, and details the need for informed consent laws. The book, authored by the founder of the Coalition for Post Tubal Ligation Women, Susan Bucher, points to studies that show as a direct result of their sterilizations more than 15% of women experience excessive bleeding that required curettage procedures or complete hysterectomies. Other studies show a menopause connection due to blood supply being affected to the ovaries causing anovulation (ovaries failing to normally function and to ovulate) in more than 30% of women.
Explains Bucher, “The aim of the book is to educate women pre and post tubal ligation and the public as a whole.” The text outlines the history of tubal ligation, the symptoms of post tubal syndrome, how women are diagnosed with PTLS, and proposed actions that women can take to advocate for their health and rights. The book includes copies of letters that the Coalition has received and a proposed informed consent law.
Bucher herself suffered untold side effects of her 1995 tubal ligation. She created the Coalition for Post Tubal Women to inform women of the risks of tubal ligation and to network with women to work towards creating an informed consent law. Bucher wrote “What Doctors Don’t Tell You About Tubal Ligation and Post Tubal Ligation Syndrome (PTLS)” to aid in the Coalitions “Campaign to Inform”. The book retails for $19.95 and is available for purchase at www.Amazon.com | |
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| Tubal Litigation Stories Posted: 11/2/2009 12:06:49 PM | I had my tubes clamped (as opposed to cutting and tying) 16 years ago and I have had zero issues, zero pregnancy scares, and zero regrets. I was informed at the time this was more effective than the actual cutting.
I did not have hair loss. Actually, as I age, my hair is thickening. My monthly cycle is regular and I have less pain/PMS than I did prior.
I have two 1/2 inch long scars, one at my belly button and one at the top of the pubic bone. I was in and out in a day. I rested for a couple of days... as much as I could with an infant.
I did not get mine done when I had my child, it was done at a later date. I have never had a c-section.
I know many people who have had this procedure, and I have heard of no complaints. I have heard of many cases of women who had their tubes cut, tied, and cauterized only to find, in time, their tubes untied and reattached causing pregnancy. | |
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| Tubal Litigation Stories Posted: 11/2/2009 12:12:48 PM |
I am wondering about things like pain afterwards Keeping in mind, this is an invasive surgery, so there will be pain but tylenol should be able to ease it. A couple days of rest and you should be okay on light duties.
how long until sex was normal For most surgeries, it takes six to eight weeks to heal properly. You can start with sex as soon as you feel comfortable, but I wouldn't get aggressive or rough for about two months or so.
Your body will tell you what is okay and what is not. | |
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| Tubal Litigation Stories Posted: 11/2/2009 12:16:31 PM | Thanks to everyone who posted. I am going to keep looking around online, but it is nice to have responses from people who have had it done.
I had a c-section with my son, and I recovered quite quickly.
I only have one day booked off of work for this though. I will have to let my boss know I might need another day.
I am looking forward to no worrying about getting pregnant! | |
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| Tubal Litigation Stories Posted: 11/2/2009 6:08:21 PM | I had mine done when I was 28 and decided that 2 children were enough. That was over 11 years ago and my sons are now 21 and 12 years old.
I had an allergic reaction to Propofol, a muscle relaxant. My body broke out in hives while I was "out" and the doctor was inserting the breathing tube down my throat. Quick shot of Benedryl cleared it up right away.
I walked around doubled over for 3 days after surgery because it felt like I had been punched in the stomach by someone strong. The surgery was done through the naval and I healed perfectly. The first few periods were painful. The cramping felt like labor pains.
<div class='quote'>hi^^^^ helpful in that you are stating your views, not so helpful if you are stating that your views come before the personal experiences of someone else... are you certain that tubal ligation will not affect a woman in the ways that I mentioned??... could it be that the process itself is so unnatural that hair loss is a side effect to procedure regardless of how simple it is, that the uterus will not have an egg present way b4 the natural cycle, do you think tubes growing back is a passive process, that the passing of the egg is natural and the body wants to fight the point where the tubes are blocked... have you ever studied the effects of manmade dams on natural environments... could it be possible that some women are so in tune with their bodies that they do feel things other women do not??.. helpful?? not if you have just convinced a woman to get the process and rest assured... blessings for health
That is nonsense. The only way that you can lose your hair with respect to the reproductive organs is if you keep spitting out babies like your body was a factory. | |
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| Tubal Ligation Stories Posted: 11/4/2009 1:46:31 PM |
The only way that you can lose your hair with respect to the reproductive organs is if you keep spitting out babies like your body was a factory.
Wrong. And it is not the "reproductive organs" - it IS the hormone changes, imbalances and issues that most certainly Can and Do (In Some women) cause hair loss along with a myriad of other (possible) side effects.
Some women Feel ovulation, some do not. We are NOT all the same. | |
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| Tubal Ligation Stories Posted: 11/5/2009 8:38:25 AM | Oh dear Lord...
I had one about 15 years ago. Had two small cuts (maybe an inch long) neither of which I can find. Had a bruise about the size of of a tennis ball for maybe a month. I was sore for a week or two (think - bruise - that level of "pain" if you want to call it that).
Please note that I end up allergic to everything under the sun, and that every "minor" thing I have done ends up being a big long ordeal - this one was the only one that I would say was NO problem at all. | |
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| Tubal Ligation Stories Posted: 11/6/2009 4:01:31 AM | "That is nonsense. The only way that you can lose your hair with respect to the reproductive organs is if you keep spitting out babies like your body was a factory."
^^^this is nonsense and closed minded, just google side effects of tubal ligation and see for yourself that you do not speak for thousands of women, you do not speak for me as I have had only one child..... blessings for balance | |
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| Tubal Ligation Stories Posted: 11/6/2009 9:31:48 AM | Well, if nothing else, I found some questions for my doctor when I go in for my pre-op consult. He did warn me when I brought it up, that my cycle would change, because I have been on the pill, and now my system is going to be on its own....
I did google side effects of Tubal Ligation, the most postings that I saw were from a site advertising reversals, with lots of "testimonials"...... The reversal process is expensive, and there were baby pictures on the site- it made me question its credability...
The more medical type of sites, mostly mentioned the same things my doctor did: regret, and a mentral cycle that is uninfluenced by artificial hormones.. | |
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