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 SteelCity1981

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Tech Support Firm Recommends to Wait with Windows 7 Upgrade.
Posted: 10/30/2009 2:16:05 PM
Microsoft Windows 7 is here and available for purchase, but even though Windows Vista can be annoying in some cases, tech support experts do not recommend to upgrade to the novelty straight away. Microsoft will find a way to make its new operating system even better in several months time and it may not make a lot of sense to cope with potential problems just now.

Rescuecom, a well-known tech-support firm, has presented five reasons why consumers should not install Windows 7 right now, but rather wait for a couple of months.

1. Let Microsoft work out the bugs. Microsoft's help forums are already flooded with questions and complaints from users having installation problems. It is always safer to wait for the first service pack to work out any glitches.

“There's no reason for you and your PC to be the guinea pig when you have other options. Failed OS installations can lose your data or leave your PC inoperable, requiring computer repair or at worst data recovery,” said Josh Kaplan, president of Rescuecom.

2. Upgrading has its risks. The chances of complications are always greater when you upgrade your existing PC with a new OS.

"There is a chance that existing software won't interface seamlessly. It may be a better idea to wait until you need to get a new PC that comes preloaded with the new OS. In addition, upgrading your existing PC without performing a complete backup can lead to data loss and very expensive data recovery,” explained Mr. Kaplan.

3. Drivers can be an issue. The smart move is to wait for hardware manufacturers to come out with drivers designed for Windows 7.

“While the system is made to be compatible with the same hardware and software as Vista, there are always exceptions. It’s not always just a simple computer repair to get everything working tougher. If your PC is the exception, the last thing you need is downtime and lost productivity. It's safer to wait for the patches and new drivers to be released,” noted the head of Rescuecom.

4. Is Windows 7 really a good fit? Will Windows 7 really benefit you?

“Microsoft has put millions of dollars into marketing Windows 7. No wonder – computer technology has never been more competitive, and the company has a lot riding on this product. This is a totally redesigned OS, and there will be a learning curve in the beginning. That curve will affect you, your employees, IT techs, and customers – everybody in the chain of use. So why not wait until the knowledge base is solid and you can easily get the computer repair help you need when you finally do make the leap?" asked the tech support expert.

5. $150 is $150. A Windows 7 family pack is about $150 right now, but will it be a good investment?

"Given the current economy, is that really a necessary expense right now? Moreover, why put yourself at risk for potential data loss and data recovery expense, or other possible hardware and software upgrade requirements?" asked Mr. Kaplan.

It is rather clear that Windows 7 does have a number of advantages over Windows Vista. However, it is not evident that those advantages truly improve productivity and enable completely new experience. All in all, one should understand at least one thing before upgrading: the reasons for this upgrade.

“In these tough economic times, every expenditure should be strategic and give you the best bang for your buck. Our business philosophy is to work closely in partnership with our customers for long-term PC solutions that will avoid costly computer repair. Helping them make savvy buying decisions is just part of smart ongoing computer use and maintenance,” said Mr. Kaplan.

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 Metal04

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Posted: 10/30/2009 3:26:42 PM
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/get/upgrade-advisor.aspx This file will scan your computer to find out if your PC can run windows 7 and not only your hardware but also any software programs with issues that should need an updated version to be compatible with Win 7, Note: You can do a side by side install with Windows 7 and Windows XP and have a duel boot screen when you start your system after you log onto one of the Windows version you just go to "Disk Cleanup" or in the "Run" box type "cleanmgr" without the quotes and you will see the option to remove the other opp system by placing a checkmark in there but you have access to all the files on the hard drive and go backup your documents and favorites and remove the other opp system and you have a clean install of Win 7 or keep Win XP, no problem when I installed Win 7 that way. good luck and poke around on that "source" website! stop looking in other places who wouldn't know the first thing about inventing Windows let alone Vista or 7.
 /don

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Tech Support Firm Recommends to Wait with Windows 7 Upgrade.
Posted: 10/30/2009 4:58:11 PM
Not so sure I would trust the Windows Upgrade Advisor tool, especially after all of those "Vista Ready" PCs that weren't so ready for Vista. And Hardware/Software compatibility were only a couple issues people should consider before taking the Microsoft leap of faith...backing up is a very good idea if you do decide to upgrade.

Dual booting is risky especially if you don't have empty space on your drive and you need to shrink a partition/volume....And fragmented files across your disk can make this process very time consuming since defragmentation is very necessary for this.
 scorpiomover

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Tech Support Firm Recommends to Wait with Windows 7 Upgrade.
Posted: 10/31/2009 12:52:07 PM
Those are all good reasons why right now, I'm sticking with XP. It works for me. I'd rather not jump ship just yet.

I'd rather wait until I need a new computer, and then buy it with Windows 7 pre-installed. Then I can rely on the manufacturer to get it right.

That, or I build it myself. But then I still need to do what the manufacturers do, and find up-to-date drivers for each device, and up-to-date applications. Even then, right now that looks pretty costly for me, and a lot of searching for drivers.

Think I'll wait. I'm pretty happy with XP for now, and being happy with Windows, is, for me, a rare thing.
 Bluesman2008

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Posted: 10/31/2009 10:43:19 PM
Think I'll wait. I'm pretty happy with XP for now, and being happy with Windows, is, for me, a rare thing.

Ditto. I'm tired of beta testing windows for a long time. The last time I felt good about an OS was 2k. Them days are gone I'm afraid. I wish to hell they'd just make it right first time though. Fix it all then leave it alone. Wishful thinking I'm sure.
 Ticketoride

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Tech Support Firm Recommends to Wait with Windows 7 Upgrade.
Posted: 11/1/2009 12:20:22 AM
Those are all good reasons why right now, I'm sticking with XP. It works for me.

Think I'll wait. I'm pretty happy with XP for now,

MY OS "Play-Days" are long over. Until XP becomes outdated, and I can no longer keep up with newer Applications required do the Job much better, I can't be bothered to change. Everything has been running "Ūber-Perfect" with XP, and I have little Love to tinker with yet another new OS.

If it wasn't for a couple of Applications I use routinely that require XP, I'd still be running Win98SE.
 scorpiomover

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Tech Support Firm Recommends to Wait with Windows 7 Upgrade.
Posted: 11/1/2009 12:42:08 PM
RE Msg: 6 by Ticketoride:
MY OS "Play-Days" are long over. Until XP becomes outdated, and I can no longer keep up with newer Applications required do the Job much better, I can't be bothered to change. Everything has been running "Ūber-Perfect" with XP, and I have little Love to tinker with yet another new OS.

If it wasn't for a couple of Applications I use routinely that require XP, I'd still be running Win98SE.
I empathise.

I prefer avoiding Microsoft, because if it requires an installation, it's so often a nightmare.

.NET and Service Pack 3 both have blocked automatic updates, and required me to disable them, download them, and then reinstall. In .NET's case, the updates required rollbacks to before .NET 2.0, requiring me to uninstall .NET 3.5, .NET 3.0, and .NET 2.0, and they are all big updates that took a lot of time to uninstall. I had to have several goes at them before I got them to work, and that was just to get Automatic Updates working. I tried to install SQL Server Express 2008 a dozen times, taking up several days, and it never worked.

Instead, I've found plenty of apps that just don't need them at all, and function wonderfully. Apache installed in 10 minutes, and I was up and running with my own website in under half an hour. After my experiences with SQL Server, I tried MySQL. 20 minutes, and I have a great database server.

Generally, it's much easier for me to install non-Microsoft open-source well-known apps myself, but to leave Microsoft apps to be installed by a techie. Let them have the headaches.
 Matariki Sweet

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Tech Support Firm Recommends to Wait with Windows 7 Upgrade.
Posted: 11/1/2009 4:06:53 PM
Got Windows 7 here ultimate version, not a single problem has worked since day one when I installed the RC release.
 lilemilyem

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Tech Support Firm Recommends to Wait with Windows 7 Upgrade.
Posted: 11/3/2009 6:04:28 AM
Yep, no issues here with the upgrade. As usual there are tons of Windows critics with negative buzz.
 RoadTrip3500

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Tech Support Firm Recommends to Wait with Windows 7 Upgrade.
Posted: 11/3/2009 5:48:31 PM
Been running Win7 Beta and RC on a machine that met the bare minimums... AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800, 1.5GB of PC3200 RAM, on board audio and video. Neither the hardware nor the OS have flinched all year. In fact, some software runs better on the Win7 machine than on the XP machine (Athlon-64 X2 5200, 2GB of PC2-5300, on board video, separate 7.1 audio card).

As for software, I am running as much on the Win7 RC as I can match up with the XP. If there wasn't a Win7-approved version or it wasn't Windows-universal, running the installation file in compatibility mode for Vista took care of it.
 |TheOne|

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Tech Support Firm Recommends to Wait with Windows 7 Upgrade.
Posted: 11/3/2009 5:53:19 PM
I wont be running it anytime soon...

My desktop is running fine on Vista Business
My notebook is running fine on XP Prorfessional
My Tablet is running fine of XP Tablet PC

I would like to have it on my tablet, but Fujitsu arnt supporting it on mine, which means I dont get any of the apps needed for a TPC. and the lack of a i855GM graphics driver in Win7 means it wont run on my notebook...

Nice piece of software, runs great in a VM, though of course it doesnt have DirectX in a HyperVisor so I dont get Aero desktop.
 SpeedBird1979

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Tech Support Firm Recommends to Wait with Windows 7 Upgrade.
Posted: 11/4/2009 9:41:40 AM
Arnold Schwarzenegger was asked if he would be upgrading to Windows 7.

Apparently his reply was "I still love Vista, baby"!
 wudger

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Tech Support Firm Recommends to Wait with Windows 7 Upgrade.
Posted: 11/5/2009 7:21:32 AM
been running a 64 bit home premium copy for a week or two now. put it on a cheesy HP quad core with 8GB of RAM (damn, hard to believe thats cheesy). works great. no problems. even worked with a bunch of hardware (old laserjet 5 printer that I have to run off a USB to parallel port since the PC has no parallel port), ancient crappy HP scanner which was not supposed to work but worked just fine. MSoft webcam that was supposed to have an issue. etc.

love it.

stable, well designed. running in 8GB of RAM rocks. does video like you wouldn't believe. recommend it heartily.
 /don

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Posted: 11/5/2009 10:36:34 AM
Not trying to be negative here but....

stable, well designed.


You don't know that yet & experts suggest that maybe it won't be for a while...say, maybe SP1.

Stability/Reliability comes with the test of time and testing compatibility will come with more testing.

Tech support firms make their money from tech support right?
Why would they recommend that people wait unless they don't want to be overwhelmed with tech support issues that there is no answer for....
I guess you could say it's because they are making so much on Vista and don't want people to upgrade to 7 because they would be out of business but I doubt it. I think they learned a lesson when Vista came out and people had issues that they couldn't support yet.

While it could be everything everyone has hoped for, Pre-SP1 OSes tend to still has big bugs people haven't discovered yet, that is why the people in the know say to wait.

I'm glad it's working out for you and appreciate you further testing it for others and so far it sounds pretty good.

 TheBigAndy

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Posted: 11/7/2009 8:36:30 AM
If you're already productive without installing x.x.0 software then don't install x.x.0 software. With large programs like Windows, Office, Solidworks, etc you always wait for the first or second service pack. Let the early adopters work out all the BS bugs that large complicated pieces of software will inevitably have when they're first released to the wild.
 GGSN

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Tech Support Firm Recommends to Wait with Windows 7 Upgrade.
Posted: 11/7/2009 10:22:50 AM
Been using Win7 x64 for many months now, couldn't pay me to switch back to an older version. Haven't used XP at home for many years now, but I am forced to use it at work, and it's such a piece of crap compared to the more modern OS's. Not sure why people cling so hard to XP, it's not that good, it's extremely outdated, and doesn't support most modern hardware and applications as well as Win7 (or even Vista).

Let go people. Come join 2009. It's time to leave XP behind.
 /don

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Posted: 11/7/2009 12:53:24 PM

Let go people. Come join 2009. It's time to leave XP behind.


Okay, I guess you're right...

Farewell Windows XP, I've moved on new and better things. With 2009 came Windows 7 and the wonderful market and with all of the cheap high performance equipment that has become so readily available for individuals and businesses, how could anyone resist a ride on the 'Microsoft Upgrade Treadmill'.
No need to wait for more stability because people have used it for months now and it has proven it's self worthy.
 SteelCity1981

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Tech Support Firm Recommends to Wait with Windows 7 Upgrade.
Posted: 11/7/2009 1:44:27 PM
Let go people. Come join 2009. It's time to leave XP behind.


You do understand that a lot of netbook users won't be able to take full advantage of Windows 7, because the hardware that supports many netbooks up until recently isn't really capable of truly supporting Windows 7 features. Not to mention will run slower considering Windows 7 is more demanding on the resources then XP. Ever tried running Windows 7, on a single core Atom 270 with 1gb of ram and a GMA 950 chipset? It's not a very good experience to say the least.

 scorpiomover

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Tech Support Firm Recommends to Wait with Windows 7 Upgrade.
Posted: 11/7/2009 5:33:23 PM
By the way, I've been meaning to ask:

I know why I upgraded to Windows 95: a true OS, rather than MS-DOS with a graphic explorer. Also, waaaay better 32-bit graphics.
I know why I upgraded to Windows 2000/XP: Windows 95 could do games, and Windows NT could do networking and business stuff, but 2K/XP could do BOTH.

But why exactly should I upgrade to Windows Vista/7? What major significant improvement am I going to get from them that is just as big an improvement?
 funtunes74

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Posted: 11/8/2009 7:34:19 PM
I used the RC since July, and jumped right in. I loaded it on my main PC and never looked back. I came right from XP on this machine, and it works great.

Unfortunately, I can't upgrade my Sony Vaio laptop from Vista because Sony won't write drivers for W7.

One thing, don't trust it when Microsoft says W7 is secure as is. At the very least, increase the UAC level from default and install their free Security Essentials. It is getting high marls, but does not have any heuristics. I loaded up a third-party internet security suite because the firewall does not have any real outgoing rules. Everything is like a sieve, and MS doesn't provide any real way to secure the machine without crippling the functionality and ease of use. better to be safe than sorry.
 wudger

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Posted: 11/9/2009 1:26:03 AM

You don't know that yet & experts suggest that maybe it won't be for a while...say, maybe SP1.



I've been hammering away on Windows 7 installation for a couple of weeks now and I can pretty much say that I do know that. haven't had a single crash, every old program I have runs on it, every piece of hardware (old and new) that I have worked no problem.

I would not hesitate to recommend it.
 /don

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Posted: 11/9/2009 2:33:47 AM



I've been hammering away on Windows 7 installation for a couple of weeks now and I can pretty much say that I do know that.

Here is a link to the Windows 7 Forum topics where you can find some folks who have been less fortunate in their experience:
http://www.sevenforums.com/
Every OS has problems when it's new, Windows 7 is not the exception but I'm glad it's working out for you


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 cinsav

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Posted: 11/9/2009 8:14:19 PM
It cracks me up how Vista haters are now ranting and raving about Windows 7. They seem to not realize that it IS Vista - just Vista "fixed." It's the same kernel... just tweeked and fixed. Typical M$ though - take a POS that didn't work, sell it for 300 bucks, wait a couple of years, take the same product - fix it, dress it up and sell it again for another 300 bucks...

You paid a couple of hundred bucks on a broken OS (if you didn't get Vista pre-installed on a newer machine) - you hated it - you cursed it - and now you're rushing out to spend another couple of hundred on the SAME thing that's just been fixed. It's like buying a new car, finding it doesn't run, taking it back to the deal and paying for it all over again to get it fixed.
 funtunes74

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Tech Support Firm Recommends to Wait with Windows 7 Upgrade.
Posted: 11/10/2009 8:18:45 AM
Vista, on a suitable machine, especially with SP2, runs quite well. I never had a problem with it. It's just as stable as XP is. But, W7 is the bomb! There are a couple of things about it that annoy me, but the positives far outweigh any negatives it has for me.

I highly recommend W7. I know some Mac guys who are starting to prefer it over OS-X.
 scorpiomover

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Posted: 11/10/2009 8:59:55 AM

It cracks me up how Vista haters are now ranting and raving about Windows 7. They seem to not realize that it IS Vista - just Vista "fixed." It's the same kernel... just tweeked and fixed. Typical M$ though - take a POS that didn't work, sell it for 300 bucks, wait a couple of years, take the same product - fix it, dress it up and sell it again for another 300 bucks...
That's because Microsoft did the same for Vista as they did with Windows 95. With Windows 95, they released it, full of bugs. Then everyone complained about all the bugs, and lots of people then posted their own solutions. Microsoft then read the forums, took note of each bug, fixed each bug with solutions that were posted, and then after a few years re-released it as a new operating system, calling it Windows 98. But for those in the industry, Windows 95 was the untested version, and Windows 98 was the production release. Microsoft simply saved a fortune by not testing and debuging it themselves, and let the users do that for a few years.

Vista was exactly the same. It wasn't ready for release. Microsoft released it, then let everyone complain about it, list all the problems with it, and their own fixes, and then applied them to Vista, and re-released it as Windows 7. But really, Windows 7 is the production release of Windows Vista. It's just that Microsoft saved billions by letting everyone else find and fix the problems for them.

You paid a couple of hundred bucks on a broken OS (if you didn't get Vista pre-installed on a newer machine) - you hated it - you cursed it - and now you're rushing out to spend another couple of hundred on the SAME thing that's just been fixed. It's like buying a new car, finding it doesn't run, taking it back to the deal and paying for it all over again to get it fixed.
Actually, you're paying for Microsoft not having to test-drive Vista, find all the kinks, and fix it themselves. That's a pain for you. But for Microsoft, all those programmer-hours are worth billions.

Mind you, I cannot blame them. They've saved billions, and they only got complaints for a few years, and now that Windows 7 is out, everyone has forgotten about all the problems made by Vista. It works very, very well for them, and made them even more profits off all the people who bought Vista AND bought Windows 7.
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