| 11 yo girl gives birth...on her wedding day!
Posted: 11/1/2009 11:56:35 PM | Am I the only one who thinks this is wrong on SO many levels? http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=925760
The girl is an 11 year old who recently married her husband, aged 19. They met when he saved her from bullies at school. The article states she "did not know what a condom was and fell pregnant within a week of them meeting." So he'd already decided to have sex with her so soon after meeting?! The age of consent in Bulgaria is 14 which makes a criminal offence for the now-husband to have sex with a girl under 14 years of age. I'm not sure if this law would no longer apply if they got married, but I highly doubt it. I sure hope he gets sent to jail for a long time though, provided the baby will be placed in safe hands with families and relatives.
Couple of questions:
What the F** was he thinking?
How will she look after the baby, considering she didn't even know what a condom was?? | |
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| 11 yo girl gives birth...on her wedding day!
Posted: 11/2/2009 12:31:09 AM |
provided the baby will be placed in safe hands with families and relatives.
Well I doubt the baby will be in safe hands with the family, given the girl's mother was only 13 when she had her! Apparently they are all gypsies and the town where they live is the underage mother capital of the world.
At least it's not as bad as the other 'believe it, or not' story of the day; a 113 year-old man marrying an 11 year-old girl in an arab state. Now THAT is f*cked-up! | |
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| 11 yo girl gives birth...on her wedding day!
Posted: 11/2/2009 7:09:41 AM | Okay wazhiz, let's try this slowly...
11....year....old....girl!
Most 11-year-old girls I know are still playing with dolls. Just because it was done back in the "old country" doesn't make it right. Seriously! Find me one 11-year-old who has the emotional maturity to take on something like marriage and family. Oh yes, I know there are 11-year-olds who are "mature for their age" and I know of 11-year-olds who are put in primary care situations. But in North America, we have agencies for dealing with that.
And what kind of person is sexually attracted to 11-year-olds? Here in the modern world, we call them perverts and molesters. | |
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| 11 yo girl gives birth...on her wedding day!
Posted: 11/2/2009 7:32:22 AM |
Am I the only one who thinks this is wrong on SO many levels?
No.
I think the media reporting on stories purely for the shock factor and not the news worthiness of the story is very wrong.
The sad outcome is people get all self righteous and feel the need to express their hate and anger over something that has zero bearing on their life and the world that they live in, but I guess it helps them pass the time.
... I sure hope he gets sent to jail for a long time though, provided the baby will be placed in safe hands with families and relatives.
Why do you care?
Couple of questions:
What the F** was he thinking?
He was hoping that this would be important enough to be posted on POF.
How will she look after the baby, considering she didn't even know what a condom was?
Babies do not need condoms to survive so the fact she did not know what a condom was probably has no bearing. | |
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| 11 yo girl gives birth...on her wedding day!
Posted: 11/2/2009 7:51:58 AM |
I have lots of relatives that were married when they were 11, 12, 13 & were still married 70 years later. I have a cousin that planned a pregnancy with her boyfriend when she was just shy of fourteen so that their parents would allow them to marry. They're going to be celebrating their 41st wedding anniversary soon, and her parents have been married for over sixty years with my aunt marrying at the ripe old age of fifteen.
Both of these marriages happened in Canada, not in some far off European country... so it does happen here and now... it's just not sensationalized by the media. Shock value... that's all it is... | |
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| 11 yo girl gives birth...on her wedding day!
Posted: 11/2/2009 8:16:34 AM |
WTF is wrong with YOU! You have no idea what goes on behind their closed doors. I have lots of relatives that were married when they were 11, 12, 13 & were still married 70 years later.
Um, 1939 vs 2009... totally different times. 70 years ago women (girls) were destined to be wifes, mothers and home makers. That's what they did in that time. As for many of your relatives being married when they were 11 and 12... it still doesn't make it right. It was nasty then, and it still is now.
In 2009, it's rape. I have a 9 year old daughter and I can't even imagine her having a baby, let alone having sex, in 2 years.
like I said you don't know what goes on behind their closed doors. Here in my world people that get up in other peoples business without knowing the whole story are called nosey busy bodies.
I DO know what goes on behind thier closed doors... sex with a minor, and it's illigal. The baby should be taken away and the dad should go to jail. | |
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| 11 yo girl gives birth...on her wedding day!
Posted: 11/2/2009 8:18:02 AM |
At least she's married and not an unwed, 11 year old teen mother like so many others in America.
The marriage won't last, kid will end up in the system and she'll go on to have other babies with several different men. Like so many others in America. | |
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| 11 yo girl gives birth...on her wedding day!
Posted: 11/2/2009 8:26:41 AM | Her case was in Bulgaria though. I know in many countries divorce is frowned upon and you "just don't leave" the mother or father of your child. I don't know if Bulgaria is like that, but hopefully it all works out for the child's sake.
I feel sorry for the girl too. She will never get to experience being a teenager because she will forever be tied to this child. I couldn't imagine having a child at 11. I still played with baby dolls at that age!! | |
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| 11 yo girl gives birth...on her wedding day!
Posted: 11/2/2009 9:04:58 AM | | Hoping he goes to jail is pretty cold hearted not knowing everything and taking knowledge only from an artical it's not as if he raped he. Love is love regardless of age in my opinon, even if it is possiable for her to not know any better as lon gas the guy sticks with his choice to get her pregent and helps the child I see no problem. I would hope that the family is able to helptake care of the child or it is given over to the state as the girl is only 11 and has to finsh her own education | |
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| 11 yo girl gives birth...on her wedding day!
Posted: 11/2/2009 9:12:02 AM | She's a wife and mother at 11 years old????
Wtf is wrong with her parents!!!!! Obviously she was sold to her 19 year old idiot husband. That practice is very common in Eastern Europe. Some parents don't deserve to be parents. Hers are a great example of that! It's child abuse. | |
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| 11 yo girl gives birth...on her wedding day!
Posted: 11/2/2009 9:52:43 AM | It seems we are talking about something that happened in another culture. The Gypsy culture is very a individualistic one within the entire scope of human cultures. They live by their own rules. If we censure them and this behavior, we do it from the perspective of our own culture and with the assumption that our vision is the correct one and that there are absolute truths, which are our truths.
Personally, to me, an 11 year old is child. A nineteen year old is an adult, albeit a very young adult. According to the law in Bulgaria, he has committed a crime by having sex with a child. I agree with Bulgarian law. However, according to Gypsy culture, he is a husband and father, she is wife and mother. Are we, in the modern West, absolutely right? Do we have the right to judge another culture?
Our automatic, knee jerk response is that this is so wrong. This child's life is ruined, spoiled. She won't get to be a teenager, one poster said. I think we know very little about Gypsy culture. I doubt being a teenager in that culture is all that similar to being a teenager in our culture. I think we are judging something from one vision of reality, a vision of reality that is not the same in another culture, another world. We are assuming there are absolute truths, absolute rights and wrongs. But are there? | |
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| 11 yo girl gives birth...on her wedding day!
Posted: 11/2/2009 9:54:15 AM | "Just because it was done back in the "old country" doesn't make it right."
Errr...to them it does. And this story happened there.
For those self-righteous posters, try to remember that North Americans try hard to keep their kids AS kids for far too long.
Sure, back in the early1900's, 11-13 yr olds were married off and became wives and mothers in this country. We've been sociologically conditioned to think this is wrong. It wasn't then. Perhaps now we think it is wrong because of the womens revolution. Which has caused far more harm to families in general than any other source of harm ever.
I am not saying that the womens revolution was wrong. I am saying that we need to re-examine how we treat our children who are becoming "adults"(legally) at far too late an age in comparison to their sexual maturity.
An example would be that porn star who stole her older sisters ID and went on to make a lot of films, after running away form home. For several years she worked in that industry. At the age of 18 she announced that she had been underage all that time and ALL her movies were then regarded, BY LAW as "kiddie porn". Removed from shelves, and banned for sale..even owning a copy is a violation of the law. (I believe she works for the Disney corporation now...but don't hold me to that.)
Now...in this case we see a guy "doing the right thing" by actually marrying this girl. Old fashioned values. Some feel this is SO wrong. It isn't. The sexual act with her that forced this process may be (it is) distasteful for many. But the guy manned up and DID the right thing by her. Only time will tell if he continues.
We try to view these stories involving children through Westernized eyes. Try looking at it through THEIR eyes.
A lot of people boycotted a certain sporting goods manufacturer in India. They cited "child labour" as their cause. They did NOTHING to look into the story at all! All they saw was "child labour" and jumped on the band wagon. Yes, the children worked in what we would call "sweatshops". No arguing that. BUT...they were there to survive and help support their families because their families could NOT support them. Basically, the Western world through these children out onto the streets with nothing...no hope of working elsewhere, and left them to starve to death. Their families could NOT help them as it was. Nice going America! Kill any more kids with kindness lately?
In some places the laws are far different from ours. In Canada, Canadians are held accountable for their actions overseas. What may be illegal HERE may not be illegal there...but you can still be held accountable for it! Example. sex with someone we'd consider a child. It may not be illegal in some places...so there are some pedophiles who "vacation" in such places. Just to practice their hobby. They are held accountable by Canadian law though! Meaning they CAN be charged with having sex with a minor, even though said "crime" did NOT happen on Canadian soil, and did NOT involve a Canadian child. (this is what I gathered from a news item I'd heard several years back. I may be wrong on this one...but I don't think so!) | |
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| 11 yo girl gives birth...on her wedding day!
Posted: 11/2/2009 10:13:26 AM | | yna americans are held to state laws as well when traveling. age of consent in Bulgaria is 14, still to young however i do say a culture decides not a government. | |
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| 11 yo girl gives birth...on her wedding day!
Posted: 11/2/2009 10:30:31 AM |
Meanwhile, back in America....
"11-Year-Old Gives Birth, Mother's Boyfriend Could Be The Father"
http://www.fox19.com/Global/story.asp?S=7802302
that's called statutory rape..if he's guilty I hope he goes to jail for it for a very long time. Many men in prisons have children of their own and when a person gets thrown in who has molested a child, they stand no chance with the other inmates. | |
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| 11 yo girl gives birth...on her wedding day!
Posted: 11/2/2009 10:30:36 AM | | I'm surprised she's physically capable to get pregnant and have the baby (without dying from childbirth) at that age, frankly. But, I guess some are.... | |
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| 11 yo girl gives birth...on her wedding day!
Posted: 11/2/2009 10:58:54 AM |
"11-Year-Old Gives Birth, Mother's Boyfriend Could Be The Father"
http://www.fox19.com/Global/story.asp?S=7802302
Why I support bringing back scourging. Cat-O'-Nine-Tails with bone or steel on the end of the lashes...few times across the back with those might encourage a diddler or two to keep it in their pants. If not, so what? Do it anyway. Nothing compared to the pain the child endures for the rest of their life. | |
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| 11 yo girl gives birth...on her wedding day!
Posted: 11/2/2009 1:58:00 PM |
In 2009, it's rape. I have a 9 year old daughter and I can't even imagine her having a baby, let alone having sex, in 2 years. When my daughter was much younger, I couldn't imagine it either... and at the time that she was around ten years old, there was a news story of a girl giving birth at the age of twelve. To say the least I was flabbergasted... and of course this was the topic of conversation everywhere.
I found out from quite a few of my guy friends that they were sexually active at around eleven years old... and their partners weren't much older than them. I realized at that time that more than likely, there was someone in my daughter's social circle that was sexually active, so it was high time I educated her on not only abstinence, but safe sex as well.
As horrible as it is when thinking of this in terms of our children, it is indeed a fact of life and we need to acknowledge this in the proper way... not by shouting from the rooftops that it's rape, hell... what if the boy were also eleven... or twelve years old? Is it rape then? They're both minors... and both under the age of consent. We need to educate our children... something that many, many parents are not doing... or not doing in a timely manner. | |
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| 11 yo girl gives birth...on her wedding day!
Posted: 11/2/2009 2:12:18 PM |
We need to educate our children... something that many, many parents are not doing... or not doing in a timely manner.
Or not doing correctly. Many parents don't like someone their child is hanging out with so they ban them from being around that person. They think that person may get their child into drugs or sex, but go about it all wrong by banning them from seeing that person.
The number one way to make a guy more appealing to a girl is to tell her she can't see him. | |
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| 11 yo girl gives birth...on her wedding day!
Posted: 11/2/2009 5:35:44 PM |
At least it's not as bad as the other 'believe it, or not' story of the day; a 113 year-old man marrying an 11 year-old girl in an arab state. Now THAT is f*cked-up!
Well he probably needed someone to push his wheelchair .... he could've just offered her some candy...  | |
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