| Race Enters Atlanta Mayoral Vote Posted: 11/2/2009 6:11:24 PM | Is this about race or is it about issues. Due to the memo send out to black voters it seems that many are wondering.
What do you think? Is this about Race or the Issues that the candidates are running on?
Race Enters Atlanta Mayoral Vote By VALERIE BAUERLEIN ATLANTA -- The campaign for mayor of this city, which has long promoted its racial tolerance, veered into controversy Thursday with the release of a memo urging black voters to unite around an African-American candidate and block the election of a white mayor.
A local group known as the Black Leadership Forum called for African-Americans to consolidate their support around Lisa Borders, president of the Atlanta City Council and one of several African-American candidates, according to a memo circulated on the Web and to local media.
Rich Addicks/The Atlanta Journal Constitution The local Black Leadership Forum has urged African-American voters to unite behind mayoral candidate Lisa Borders, above, to block the election of another candidate, Mary Norwood, below. . The group said Ms. Borders had the best chance of winning support from white business leaders and defeating Mary Norwood, a white city councilwoman and a leading candidate for the Nov. 3 election, according to polls.
"For the last 25 years Atlanta has represented the breakthrough for black political empowerment in the South," read the memo. "In order to defeat a Norwood (white) mayoral candidacy we have to get out now and work in a manner to defeat her without a runoff, and the key is a significant Black turnout."
The memo was the sharpest signal yet of overt racial politics creeping into the competition to replace Shirley Franklin, elected as the city's first female mayor in 2001. Atlanta was the first major Southern city to elect an African-American mayor, Maynard H. Jackson, in 1973. No white candidate has mounted a serious campaign for the office since then.
But Atlanta's demographics have shifted drastically in the past decade. The city of about 440,000 people remains a majority African-American city. But the proportion of voting-age residents who are white or Hispanic has grown. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125142077588465507.html#printMode | |
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| Race Enters Atlanta Mayoral Vote Posted: 11/2/2009 6:32:21 PM |
Is this about race or is it about issues. Due to the memo send out to black voters it seems that many are wondering.
Why ask the question when you've given your opinion in the thread title?
"In order to defeat a Norwood (white) mayoral candidacy we have to get out now and work in a manner to defeat her without a runoff, and the key is a significant Black turnout."
Who inserted the word 'white' in the sentence? If the person/group who sent out the memo included that, then obviously this is about Race.
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| Race Enters Atlanta Mayoral Vote Posted: 11/2/2009 7:59:47 PM | I think this Mayoral race is indicative of a trend in voting that benefited Obama...During the campaign many Black radio,television and magazines were asking their listeners,viewers and subscribers to vote for Obama because he is Black. What type of message is this sending in an era in which race is not supposed to be a factor? As more Blacks, Asians, Hispanics etc,,,,are entering into politics are the people of their race going to be expected, coerced or shamed into voting for the candidate of their race simply based on the candidates skin color?
So much for the election of a Black President having a positive effect on Race relations it seems as if his candidacy has set a shameful precedent.
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| Race Enters Atlanta Mayoral Vote Posted: 11/2/2009 11:39:34 PM | OP, thank you for including the link in your post. Please, now, don't discontinue this practice in the future. At least you give the more curious among us the opportunity to ferret out knowledge of the larger picture.
So, now I need to ask your why you cut off the article where you did, to exclude the following information about the responses of the black candidates?
(continuation of your cited article -- please note that Ms. Borders and Mr. Reed are both black candidates in this race...-where4) [...] The call for black unity drew sharp criticism from Ms. Borders and her closest African-American competitor, Mr. Reed, who both insisted in separate news conferences Thursday that Atlanta must not choose its next mayor based on his or her race.
"We have had two Atlantas for far too long," Ms. Borders said.
Mr. Reed called the memo "racially charged and vitriolic" and said it "dishonors the legacies" of the black and white mayors who led Atlanta through the civil-rights movement and beyond. "This campaign should be waged on the merits of each candidate, not the color of their skin," Mr. Reed said.
Ms. Norwood, an at-large member of the city council who has campaigned on a pledge to improve crime-fighting and reorganize city government said, her candidacy is based on public safety and fiscal management.
"Race," she said, "does not play a role."
The Black Leadership Forum is an ad-hoc group of African-American leaders who include Aaron Turpeau, a well-known entrepreneur who worked in the administrations of Mayors Maynard Jackson and Andrew Young. Messrs. Jackson and Young had held the office in various terms for 20 years since 1973.
Mr. Turpeau, who contributed $500 to Ms. Borders' campaign, defended the memo's message.
"You shouldn't vote solely on having a black candidate," he said. "You have to deal with the credentials and skill set first. After that, it's a feeling of pride that we've had for 35 years in this town. Ego gets important."
Liz Flowers, a spokeswoman for Ms. Borders, distanced her candidate from the memo.
Ms. Flowers said the campaign found out about the memo late Wednesday, and Ms. Borders immediately called Mr. Turpeau. "She told him that she loved him and thanked him for his support, but she was disappointed in the message," Ms. Flowers said. —Corey Dade contributed to this article.
Write to Valerie Bauerlein at valerie.bauerlein@wsj.com
And, BTW, it's not a surprise that Rupert Murdoch's WSJ--yeah, he owns Faux News, too--would put that inflammatory title on the article. All the better to help his acolytes fan the flames - Murdoch-signature "journalism" thrives on dividing this country. But at least WSJ continued on to include what the black candidates had to say about the memo. Why didn't you?
----------------- Here's another more in-depth article written out of Atlanta, about the race. http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/race-re-emerges-in-178020.html?cxntlid=daylf_artr
EXCERPT: The issue of race heated up this summer, when a memo written by two Clark Atlanta University professors caused a firestorm. The message warned that black Atlantans should rally around Borders to foil a Norwood victory and maintain black political control of City Hall.
For their part, the candidates denounced and distanced themselves from the memo. The incident soured Rev. Joseph Lowery, a revered civil rights leader whose support is coveted, on endorsing either Reed or Borders.
------------------ The following article by a local Atlanta journalist is also noteworthy, as she seems perhaps a bit resentful of the outside Washington and New York publications' attempts to zero in on only the racial aspect in the contest.
http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-politics-elections/race-puts-atlanta-election-183237.html
Race puts Atlanta election on national media's radar By Kristi E. Swartz The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
You would think the media would have election-coverage fatigue.
Between a never-ending Democratic presidential primary to an animated Republican vice presidential nominee, the press spent countless hours and big money following the 2008 election.
So why pay attention to who's going to be the next mayor of Atlanta, as national newspapers such as the Wall Street Journal and the Washington Times have done?
"It's the first time in decades that a white candidate may be poised to win the mayoral race in Atlanta," said Sam Feist, the political director for CNN.
Feist is talking about frontrunner Mary Norwood, currently a member of Atlanta's City Council. Her chief competitors are City Council President Lisa Borders; former state lawmaker Kasim Reed; and Jesse Spikes, an attorney at the law firm of McKenna, Long & Aldridge.
Sure, it may seem easy for CNN to take a look at what's going on in Atlanta because the cable news network is headquartered there. But Feist and the bulk of the network's political shop is in Washington, D.C.
Reporter and anchor Don Lemon is preparing a segment on Atlanta's mayoral race for The Situtation Room, which will air later Monday, Feist said.
New York, Boston, Detroit, Pittsburgh and Houston also top CNN's list of interesting elections to watch Tuesday, Feist said. Houston, one of the nation's largest cities, has a leading candidate who is openly gay.
But at this point, any election can make for a great story, said Paul Levinson, chairman of Fordham University's communication and media studies department.
And whatever stories traditional media choose not to cover, there's always the blogs, YouTube and Twitter. Those outlets can quickly turn a local story into a national or international one, Levinson writes in his new book, "New New Media."
"Once something is tweeted, it's international," Levinson told the AJC. "The big media pick up on that. They are highly receptive of what's being tweeted."
Please note that there are six candidates in the Atlanta mayoral race, four black, two white. It must be pretty messy down there right now, considering that the candidates are supposedly in a "non-partisan" race and the state party organizations are getting into the mix, too. Sheesh! http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2009/11/02/state-gop-denies-funding-anti-norwood-robocall/
State GOP denies funding anti-Norwood robocall
2:17 pm November 2, 2009, by Jim Galloway
The state Republican party says it had no hand in a robocall that went to GOP voters over the weekend, chastising Atlanta mayoral candidate Mary Norwood – not for her alleged Republican proclivities, but for her denial of them.
It was clearly an attempt to envelope Norwood in a kind of pincer movement. State Democrats last week accused her of closet Republicanism. [..]
Suffice it to say that this Atlanta race does not seem to be a simple 'black/white' matter - no matter what Rupert Murdoch or CNN or two dunderhead Clark Atlanta University professors or the "Black Leadership Forum" (the two professors?) would have us believe... | |
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| Race Enters Atlanta Mayoral Vote Posted: 11/3/2009 6:20:52 AM | Thank you for posting the whole story.
I'll save my most vitriolic response for the OP--you can imagine what it includes--and just say that when we tell half-truths, when we omit all the facts, and when we attempt to distort/spin something into a larger, more negative issue than it honestly is, we mimic that lowest of self-appointed (not the) 'news' sources, FOX.
Which, sadly, does not surprise me at all. | |
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| Race Enters Atlanta Mayoral Vote Posted: 11/3/2009 7:23:37 AM | ^^^^Why ask the question when you've given your opinion in the thread title? ^^^^
I used Valerie Bauerlein's title of her article since I used her article to start a discussion on what Valerie said.
^^^^Race Enters Atlanta Mayoral Vote By VALERIE BAUERLEIN http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125142077588465507.html#printMode ^^^^
So the question that I threw out there for discussion, since it was brought out in the article.
What Do You Think? Is This About Race Or The Issues That The Candidates Are Running On? | |
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| Race Enters Atlanta Mayoral Vote Posted: 11/3/2009 9:17:39 AM | The issue is not who sent the letter or what news agency reported it... the issue is that the letter does reflect the attitude of many in the Black community.This also occurred during the Presidential campaign many black radio stations,magazines and TV shows advocated for African Americans to vote for Obama, the premise being that they should vote for him because he was Black, there was little or nothing mentioned about his stance on the issues. It should also be noted that the letter in question was printed in several Atlanta papers so the message did got out....
Of course the candidates will distance themselves from this type of thing publicly that is the smart political thing to do..
As far as the alleged authors of the letter are concerned they allege that they wrote this on their own with no ties to the Black Leadership Forum...but initially they said they wrote if FOR the Black Leadership Forum, could it be that they have altered their position after receiving so much attention?
Of course many are resentful of the national attention, they should be because the poll numbers support the Fact that many Blacks do vote based on the color of the Candidate.... | |
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| Race Enters Atlanta Mayoral Vote Posted: 11/3/2009 10:05:42 AM |
Of course many are resentful of the national attention, they should be because the poll numbers support the Fact that many Blacks do vote based on the color of the Candidate.... You seem to lack a certain empathy, fail to acknowledge history (and the present in regards to racial inequities), and hide it under the guise of "colorblindness." Do you think that blacks have never pulled the lever for a white candidate? That would be laughable if you did. Turn the tables-- what nonwhite candidates have you ever pulled the lever for? | |
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| Race Enters Atlanta Mayoral Vote Posted: 11/3/2009 11:10:03 AM |
This also occurred during the Presidential campaign many black radio stations,magazines and TV shows advocated for African Americans to vote for Obama, the premise being that they should vote for him because he was Black, there was little or nothing mentioned about his stance on the issues. I wonder what excuse is being given for all the "whites" who voted for the "Black" man ... were they being encouraged through many "white" radio stations, magazines and TV shows to vote for OBAMA?
What is a good example of a "black" TV show?
I know in the line of work that I do, I had contact with many low-income patients and many were also black (I lived in Tampa, Florida at the time). One in particular, had never voted in her life and was just turning 50 years old. She was so home bound by her responsibilities ... caring for her two older retarded siblings ... that she basically never got out of the home. She had been caring for them since shortly after her mother passed away ... when she was 16 years old.
I helped her find the telephone number to request a voter registration form, then helped her fill it out, and then arranged for a fellow nurse friend to be there at the house for her so I could take her to vote ... for the very first time in her life. When she came out from voting, she was crying (for joy) and said, "I just can't believe that the first time I ever voted in my life and I got to vote for a black man to be President of the United States." Did I mention ... she's black?
For some of my other home-bound clients (mostly all black, but some were white) who were already registered to vote but couldn't understand the wording (rhetoric) on the absentee ballot or who just couldn't read without glasses (couldn't always afford such things) ... I helped them by reading their ballot to them so they could vote. Some said it was the first time in so long that they had voted that they believe the last time they voted was for Kennedy.
I wonder, maybe there are still people who really don't want the "black" people to be allowed to vote ... or any other minority for that matter? Or maybe they don't think we should encourage them to vote? Does anyone remember this?
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/phony-flyer-tells-virginia-democrats-vote-wednesday-november-5
Phony Flyer Tells Virginia Democrats to Vote Wednesday, November 5
by Karen Hatter | October 28, 2008 at 06:05 am
Citing " .... larger than expected voter turnout ....", associated with this year's election process, a flyer being distributed, with logos that mimic the appearance of an official state of Virginia seal, are being distributed instructing Republicans and Independents, supporting Republican candidates, to vote on the actual election day, Tuesday, November 4, while telling Democrats and Independents, supporting Democratic candidates, to vote on the wrong day, the day after the election, Wednesday, November 5.
The bogus flyer ends with contact information alleged to be for the Virginia State Board of Elections.
Nah ... I think they just don't want anyone who votes for Democratic candidates ... to vote!!!
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=10863213
* Maryland Voting Guide: A voting guide distributed in Prince George's County, Md., falsely suggested that prominent state Democrats were endorsing Republican candidates in the 2006 election. * Letter to Hispanic Voters in Orange County: Originally written in Spanish, the letter warns that it is illegal for immigrants to vote. (English Translation) * Milwaukee Black Voters League: The phony group distributed a flier in 2004 warning people found guilty of anything, including traffic tickets, to stay away from the polls or face possible imprisonment. * Franklin County Flyer: A fake flier pretending to be from the county board of elections in an Ohio county tells Democrats to vote on the wrong date.
At the same link ...
Democrats Want Law Against Voter Deception
by Pam Fessler June 8, 2007
Congressional Democrats want to make it a federal crime to intentionally deceive voters to prevent them from casting a ballot.
The move comes in response to recent elections, in which voters were told to go to the wrong polling place, or to vote on the wrong day.
On Thursday, the Senate Judiciary Committee took up the issue, as Sen. Ben Cardin (D-MD) talked about a flier that was handed out to Milwaukee, Wis., voters in 2004.
"It states that you can only vote once a year, and if you're found guilty of anything, even a traffic ticket, that you cannot vote in a presidential election. And that if you violate any of these laws, you can get 10 years in prison and your children can be taken away from you."
The flier was distributed by a phony group called the Milwaukee Black Voters League.
Committee members were also shown other fliers and letters, some of which looked official. A Pennsylvania flier was printed on government letterhead stationary. It said voter turnout was expected to be so high that Republicans should vote on Tuesday and Democrats were to vote on Wednesday. The letter even apologized for any inconvenience.
Cardin noted another letter sent to Hispanics in Orange County, Calif., last year. It warned immigrants that it is a crime for them to vote — even though naturalized citizens are permitted to vote.
"Now, what's in common with all seven of these exhibits is that they were targeted [at] minority communities in an effort to suppress the minority vote," said Cardin.
Senators complained about a deceptive flier in November, and that is when Justice Department lawyers told them there are no clear-cut laws to prevent some of these practices.
In that instance, a Republican flier that was distributed in Prince George's County, Md., implied that the county's black, Democratic leaders supported the Republican candidates for the Senate and governor.
The county's executive, Jack Johnson, said he had to spend all day trying to convince people that the flier — which had his picture on it — was a hoax.
"Phone calls came early and often that Election Day — angry citizens wanting to know why I was a turncoat and why I had abandoned the Democratic Party. This was a falsehood, and I do not believe at all that it is free speech protected by the First Amendment," he told the committee.
Election law attorney Bill Canfield said he's worried about the unintended consequences of a law that makes deceptive practices a federal crime. He noted that savvy campaign managers could use allegations of criminal activity to harm an opponent in the hectic days before an election.
"To empower federal agents to have some sort of role in making determinations as to whether certain announcements are fraudulent or intended to suppress the vote tends, I think, to give a role to the federal government I don't think is appropriate," Canfield said.
Sponsors of the legislation said that's why they have tried to limit the prohibition. It would only apply to those who knowingly provide false information about the time, place or manner of voting, a person's eligibility to vote, or a candidate's endorsements.
The statements also have to be made within 60 days of the election and with the clear intention of suppressing the vote.
Violators could get up to five years in jail. | |
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| Race Enters Atlanta Mayoral Vote Posted: 11/3/2009 8:12:06 PM | Its looking like Norwood just might have won. If so she will be the first white Mayor in Atlanta in a generation.
From CBS in ATLANTA -- (Early results show Atlanta councilwoman Mary Norwood leading in the race to become the city's next mayor, although she was several points shy of avoiding a runoff.
Front-runners Norwood, city council President Lisa Borders and state Sen. Kasim Reed have battled for weeks, and most political observers say the race is likely headed for a Dec. 1 runoff that will continue to polarize voters along racial lines.
Unofficial results show Norwood garnering 46 percent of the vote with 51 percent of the precincts reporting. Close behind was Reed with 36 percent. Borders had 14 percent. If elected, Norwood would become the city's first white mayor in a generation.) http://www.cbsatlanta.com/news/21506181/detail.html | |
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| Race Enters Atlanta Mayoral Vote Posted: 11/3/2009 8:59:55 PM | Just because one is anti bush doesn't mean one is Pro Obama....Just because someone doesn't like Obama it doesn't mean they are Anti Black....People like you are the reason that letters like the one mentioned in this thread are sent....Why is it that those that accuse people of racism all the time are the ones who really have issues with race? I cant stand Obamas policies, agenda, beliefs etc....and guess what I can't stand Pelosis either and I can't stand Reeds' either....see its not about race its about ideological and political differences.....
Yes it is your imagination........the thread is about Racism....when a group of one race sends a letter out saying not to vote for a candidate because of the color of their skin that is Racism.... | |
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| Race Enters Atlanta Mayoral Vote Posted: 11/3/2009 9:00:15 PM |
Also, the OP insists she was Anti-Bush yet she is extremely Anti-the "black" man currently residing in the White House. What is that all about?
Much ado about nothing.
Seems some people want to read racism into everything. Hmmm...
Seriously, isn't it time to give up that whole 'racism behind every action' paranoia, and begin to live in the world where the only race that really matters is happening between the Phillies and the Yankees.
Oh. Wait.
There's Black guys who play on both teams--is that racist? Also, there are a few White guys coaching--is that racist? There's a kid in one class in which I work at the high school--he has an Afro--is that racist? What about the salad bar lunch lady--she's Hispanic--hmmm...racism? One of the science teachers is half Cuban and half Irish--jeez--that's GOTTA be racism, right?
Damn. We're surrounded.  | |
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| Race Enters Atlanta Mayoral Vote Posted: 11/3/2009 9:20:41 PM |
Seriously, isn't it time to give up that whole 'racism behind every action' paranoia, and begin to live in the world
For once I agree with you at least with the above statement.....It is time to stop throwing out the race card.
In the 60s I believed in and worked hard for MLK's dream, "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
When everytime someone disagrees with Obama and they throw up the race card they are demeaning everything that was done in the 60s by MLK to get our nation to where it is today.
Yes our President happens to be black and yes I happen to disagree with a lot of his policies, but that does not make me a racist anyone else that disagrees a racist.
This thread was about an article by VALERIE BAUERLEIN who was concerned about some of the tactics being deployed to win Atlanta's Mayoral race. The question was posed ^^^ Is this about Race or the Issues that the candidates are running on?^^^^
Tonight I saw the results of the mayoral race on a web site and thought it was worth posting the article in this thread. | |
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| Race Enters Atlanta Mayoral Vote Posted: 11/3/2009 9:34:54 PM |
Also, the OP insists she was Anti-Bush yet she is extremely Anti-the "black" man currently residing in the White House. What is that all about? Much ado about nothing. Well, just good to know ...
Just seemed like some are drawing a lot of attention to the "black and white" issue ... given that there was an awful lot of emphasis on the "white" candidate here and how much emphasis on all the "black" folks who had been winners for a whole generation? | |
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| Race Enters Atlanta Mayoral Vote Posted: 11/3/2009 9:43:40 PM | Yes, a lot of people wanted to make this mayoral race...all about race, but I submit this quote from the Wall Street Journal Article (Atlanta Poll Signals Racial Shift)...
Most striking in Ms. Norwood's numbers is her level of support among widely fractured African-American voters. An InsiderAdvantage poll on Oct. 16 showed Ms. Norwood leading all candidates among black voters, with nearly a third of African-Americans supporting her.
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| Race Enters Atlanta Mayoral Vote Posted: 11/3/2009 9:46:54 PM | Read back through my posts on this board--I'm not one to 'play the race card' as a rule. As with all rules, there can be exceptions.
In the case of our president, it wasn't the color of his skin that drew me to him, and I firmly believe that my vote was not miscast.
Thanks to another poster, the facts about the Atlanta Mayoral race were copy/pasted for us to read. Nothing was cherry-picked, nothing was edited.
Here is my point: There are times when racism needs to be called out, absolutely.
When everytime someone disagrees with Obama and they throw up the race card they are demeaning everything that was done in the 60s by MLK to get our nation to where it is today.
However, when one decries the use of the 'race card', and then begins a thread about racism without giving all the facts, one is as guilty of playing race as those she accuses.
When one attempts to make a race issue where none exists, (such as this thread, in my opinion), one loses any credibility one may have had.
Don't be so eager to disparage President Obama that you end up doing the very thing you've protested--demeaning everything Martin Luther King accomplished. | |
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