| Is there a difference? Posted: 11/3/2009 1:49:25 AM | I was just curious about something. When a man is really into a woman, is he more likely to want to wait a bit for sex, or do yall usually want it right away just like it would be with someone you only see as a FWB? Is there a difference? Will you come on just as strong physically in the early stages or want to take your time?
For example, I was seeing someone once, and he wanted to take small steps and just go on dates and slightly fool around before we actually had sex. We ended up waiting a month and a half. At the time, part of me took this like it was a bad sign and he didn't want to sleep with me. lol. This may be a stupid queston, but I was just curious as to what yall think. | |
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| Is there a difference? Posted: 11/3/2009 1:59:43 AM | To me, the difference between being really into a woman and not is that the relationship becomes way more than about sex. It becomes about shared experiences, notes and calls throughout the day, the growing connection, the constant desire to be together ...
If you don't have those things, then it's just about the sex and whatever you structure around it -- a dinner, a movie, whatever.
I've never found timing to be any kind of a consideration. If one is truly into a woman, then the desire only increases. Then it becomes about opportunity, and you'd want to get to it sooner than later.
I think you just encountered a quirky guy. I wouldn't read any more into it. | |
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| Is there a difference? Posted: 11/3/2009 2:40:04 AM | | Yes, I try to take my time when I'm really into a woman. There's no set amount of time, but I try to let things progress naturally. I'm at a stage of my life where FWB doesn't interest me at all, so I would never try on a first or second meet, and I would tell her no if she tried. | |
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| Is there a difference? Posted: 11/3/2009 3:02:56 AM | I believe that most guys, when faced with a woman they can truely see as one that has any possibility of becoming a LTR is more than willing to wait for sex, because they are worried less about the "will she sleep with me" than the "how much does she like me"
if you notice a guy is trying to know more about you, than more body, it's a safe bet he's really into you. just make sure you don't restrict the possibilities of having sex because if you hold back to long he can take it as.. "she's not into me that way" and start assuming he's drifted into the friend zone. | |
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| Is there a difference? Posted: 11/3/2009 4:22:52 AM | | It takes time to really get into a woman, and I would rather wait on the sex until I am really into a woman. Some how that sounds a little odd, let me put it this way, before I have sex with a woman I want to know her and have the begining of a relationship. That can happen quickly or over time, but neither is wrong, just different. | |
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| Is there a difference? Posted: 11/3/2009 5:00:40 AM | Want sex as quick as possible:Don't see or talk to him anymore
You probably won't be interested in a guy that loves you features and wants to know you more because, well, you just won't. Not on here anyways. | |
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| Is there a difference? Posted: 11/3/2009 5:41:29 AM | | I don’t come out strong, never have. I can tell when I’m really interested in a woman when I actually feel nervous about sex! If I’m not nervous, it’s carnal, so I back away. I can wait, however, time is a relative thing and my time elapses in quality, not over a set time span. | |
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| Is there a difference? Posted: 11/3/2009 6:00:08 AM | OP, I believe that you have posed a very good question, not at all stupid! In my opinion, I think that most men, and me in particular, would and will want to have sex with a woman that they/I am really into, but do not want to risk chasing her away by being physically overly aggressive. Thus, I would tend to take the physical aspect of the relationship slow and careful, all the while trying my best to see the signs that it's okay to become more physical. Also, if I am considering her for a LTR, I would be far more patient and willing to wait until the lady is ready. On the other hand, if I am considering her as a FWB, I would tend to take more risks and be more forward with her. The thought process is, if I offend her and chase her away, so be it, she wasn't the one anyway. Go for it, she can only say no or we'll be getting hot and sweaty and pleasuring each other as soon as possible! In conclusion OP, I think if the guy that you are with is taking things slow, you should consider it a sign of respect for you (he views you as a lady and does not wish to offend) and if you want the physical relationship to progress more swiftly, take the lead and show him the way. I believe that most guys enjoy having the woman to be the sexual aggressor when that is what is on her mind! Most men will not think less of you for letting him know that you want him. | |
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| Is there a difference? Posted: 11/3/2009 6:27:13 AM | I can't really be into a woman who is viewing sex that way in the first place. The singling out of sex as a separate thing, devising a strategy based on the time and manner of genital deployment, and so on is alien to my view. People are about a lot of things and sexuality is right there mixed in, so to create an imaginary division between the sex of things and the rest indicates a fractured and odd interpretation of reality that makes relating at all problematic in case of romantic interest. I never wait for sex. Sex is there from the start at whatever level or stage it starts with, which is usually attraction and curiosity. She has to turn me on from the start or else we're talking as friends do, but for whom sexual interest is either absent or a mild and fleeting curiosity. The idea that men are horny and looking for women to screw, that happens, but also the other way around, and it also happens that when men and women socialize they have awareness of one another sexually no matter if they encourage that or just take it in stride as a feeling. People seem to place an undue and artificially separate emphasis on sex only when their view of sex is weird to begin with. To people who are more wholesome about their humanity, it's not a problem or a question.
You meet someone and then you'll like being with them or not, and in special cases that becomes a fully intimate relationship. At some point as things go along you're both feeling it and then is the time, but whether that happens sooner or later doesn't matter, or even if it never does happen, it isn't right so don't worry about it.
The habit of being sexually stunted until marriage comes from a practical application of morality to curb inconvenient pregnancy as well as other complications of indiscriminate sexual activity, like cooties, social mayhem and soiled clothing. From that you have your big deal about reserving sex until conditions match the ones set forth in the Big Book. Your wedding night is the first time. Before than, courtship, which is men and women trying to pair up for marriage. Then there is the reality of being human when the rules don't happen to work that well, so people have sex anyway on the sly, or frustrate themselves into mental illness being chaste and deprived.
Nope, can't go that way. If she is thinking of sex as something apart, and gaging my interest in her according to that idea, then I'm not interested. Otherwise, I couldn't know in advance generally if when I met a woman we would be in bed right off or if for us it would be a few weeks or months before nothing else to do seemed better at the moment.
You can have your world of seeking penises and guarded vaginae and negotiating the wait or give-in of sex. I prefer my world where when people meet the expectation and reality is a rapport of mutual interest and respect for each other and also for the art of relating well. Sex is more than intercourse. It's also how you walk along together. It's pervasive and belongs to happen in all its ways. To narrow it down and set it aside and treat it like a business transaction necessary but best left to lawyers hardly increases the joy of companionship. | |
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| Is there a difference? Posted: 11/3/2009 6:42:11 AM |
was just curious about something. When a man is really into a woman, is he more likely to want to wait a bit for sex, or do yall usually want it right away just like it would be with someone you only see as a FWB?
OK I can't believe I post so different then most men. I only want the sex with the ones I am really into not the FWB idea at all? And at my age no I really don't want to wait around a LONG time if we both feel an obvious connection and are wanting to see where it goes. Does that mean I demand sex by some certain number of dates? NO! But then again I don't want to wait months either. The key is we both are "feeling it" for each other and their is an obvious connection and chemistry working. That we have a goal of a relationship and not just sex. But when that magic happens the sex can come in the first couple dates or wait for 10 dates but let's not string it out waiting long term when we both feel that connection. I am not 20 years old at this point. I know what I feel for a person and the sexual chemisty and compatibilty is part of that.
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| Is there a difference? Posted: 11/3/2009 6:47:53 AM | When a man is really into a woman, is he more likely to want to wait a bit for sex, or do yall usually want it right away All normal men want to have sex with a woman if they are really into her. Saying anything else is a lie.
Whether or not a guy will "wait a bit" depends on the guy. Personally, I don't like women that use sex as a relationship tool and will move on rather quickly. | |
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| Is there a difference? Posted: 11/3/2009 7:51:26 AM | | Yes. From my experience anyway. If I am really into someone, and what I am into is much more than what she can do in bed, then absolutely I wait. I don't think I am even making a conscious decision to wait, it just kind of naturally happens. Probably because I am focusing on getting to know her for the other aspects of her personhood..her personality, likes and dislikes, just enjoying being around her. During this time, sex is in the back of my mind..like a buildup of excitement and tension boiling on the backburner,but when it's time to eat that stew, it will be the best! That may just be my personality..the best sex I have ever had has been with people I feel an emotional connection with. My last 2 serious relationships, which lasted 1 and a half years and over 9 years resectively, did not include sex right away. Again, it wasn't a conscious choice, I just wanted to savor getting to know all of her before knowing her body. | |
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| Is there a difference? Posted: 11/3/2009 8:00:12 AM | | If he's investing that kinda thought and effort with u and is showing his effection, then with outa doubt he wants more. Ok, maybe a bad question here and apologise if it's to much but...........Haven't u felt his ummmm, well u know, getting turned on alot? It's pretty easy to tell if a man desires u sexually. Clue to knowing sometimes how much is how little u have to do in order for his body to react in that way. Souds as though he's taking it slow and building the relationship some while exploring u. Nice! | |
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| Is there a difference? Posted: 11/3/2009 8:14:10 AM |
If he thinks you're worth it, he'll wait. Why? Because you would? How do you know she's "worth it" until you get her in bed? You certainly don't share the view of a lot of men.
with people I feel an emotional connection with I often wonder if women really buy into this kind of crap. There is an entire sex industry that exists precisely because men don't give a sh** about having an "emotional connection" when it comes to sex. Only in forums like these (where men are trying to impress women) do you find this stuff. | |
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| Is there a difference? Posted: 11/3/2009 8:31:49 AM | I am going to say what I always say “There are no stupid questions, all there is are stupid people asking questions in kind”!
When a man is really into a woman, waiting is at times a thing that cannot be held back. Even if he wants to wait, if the chemistry is strong… | |
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| Is there a difference? Posted: 11/3/2009 8:44:28 AM | If I'm into a girl, I want to have sex with her. If I can wait a month or so, I don't really like her that much or I have something else going on.
The little game of imaginary timelines for sex is stupid. How long (or how soon) you have sex has zero bearing on what the relationship will turn into. If you both like each other, it (big shock) enchances a relationship. If a guy thinks you're easy because you had sex with him early on, it just means he doesn't think much of himself. | |
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| Is there a difference? Posted: 11/3/2009 8:47:49 AM | A month and a 1/2??? As if that is a long time??
Women SHOULD wait a bit (3 months....4 ) to ASSURE the guy is not into you for a$$ only. Good LORD woman. You will be taken advantage of WAY more than not in this life. You really think that is a long time? How many dates do you have in a month??? 4...5??
You are going to be treated like trash or a sperm receptacle if you think 1.5 months is an eternity. | |
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| Is there a difference? Posted: 11/3/2009 8:51:32 AM |
Only in forums like these (where men are trying to impress women) do you find this stuff. Wow Dude, I have to completely disagree with your whole post. IDK, maybe I'm an enigma, but at my age and knowing what I'm looking for, I won't be intimate with a woman unless/until there's a deeper connection. Further, I understand that sex is relatively important in a relationship however, IMO there are other aspects that are much more important. In reality, the actual percentage of time spent having sex in a relationship is infinitesimal compared to the time you spend doing other things together. Therefore, I don't need to get her into bed to figure out if she's "worth it". To me, her "value" is measured more by what she's like when NOT in bed. And NO, I'm not just saying that to impress women!
OP, I'm looking for a quality LTR and frankly, if I don't see that happening, then I move on. So yes, waiting for sex is no big deal to me. In my last relationship, we waited about 10 weeks or so (seeing each other twice a week on average) before actually being completely intimate. After about 5 weeks one night she turned to me and said, "so why haven't you made the move on me yet?" and when I told her my reasoning, she said that that made perfect sense. She just hadn't dated anyone with mindset in the before. Trust me, it was well worth the wait.
IMO, quality men will wait to have sex and it sounds like the guy you described in your initial post, was/is a quality guy. | |
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| Is there a difference? Posted: 11/3/2009 9:06:31 AM | | Dude!! Dumb, stupid men who only view sex thru thier organs are as lame and ignorant as u are, ONLYTHIS!!! Weird and narrow! Perverted is the way u come accross. Nonemotional in ur viewings of relationships is not how men who honestly seek and want things a good relationship has to offer. | |
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| Is there a difference? Posted: 11/3/2009 9:10:49 AM |
I can't really be into a woman who is viewing sex that way in the first place. The singling out of sex as a separate thing, devising a strategy based on the time and manner of genital deployment, and so on is alien to my view. People are about a lot of things and sexuality is right there mixed in, so to create an imaginary division between the sex of things and the rest indicates a fractured and odd interpretation of reality that makes relating at all problematic in case of romantic interest. I never wait for sex. Sex is there from the start at whatever level or stage it starts with, which is usually attraction and curiosity. She has to turn me on from the start or else we're talking as friends do, but for whom sexual interest is either absent or a mild and fleeting curiosity. The idea that men are horny and looking for women to screw, that happens, but also the other way around, and it also happens that when men and women socialize they have awareness of one another sexually no matter if they encourage that or just take it in stride as a feeling. People seem to place an undue and artificially separate emphasis on sex only when their view of sex is weird to begin with. To people who are more wholesome about their humanity, it's not a problem or a question.
You meet someone and then you'll like being with them or not, and in special cases that becomes a fully intimate relationship. At some point as things go along you're both feeling it and then is the time, but whether that happens sooner or later doesn't matter, or even if it never does happen, it isn't right so don't worry about it.
The habit of being sexually stunted until marriage comes from a practical application of morality to curb inconvenient pregnancy as well as other complications of indiscriminate sexual activity, like cooties, social mayhem and soiled clothing. From that you have your big deal about reserving sex until conditions match the ones set forth in the Big Book. Your wedding night is the first time. Before than, courtship, which is men and women trying to pair up for marriage. Then there is the reality of being human when the rules don't happen to work that well, so people have sex anyway on the sly, or frustrate themselves into mental illness being chaste and deprived.
Nope, can't go that way. If she is thinking of sex as something apart, and gaging my interest in her according to that idea, then I'm not interested. Otherwise, I couldn't know in advance generally if when I met a woman we would be in bed right off or if for us it would be a few weeks or months before nothing else to do seemed better at the moment.
You can have your world of seeking penises and guarded vaginae and negotiating the wait or give-in of sex. I prefer my world where when people meet the expectation and reality is a rapport of mutual interest and respect for each other and also for the art of relating well. Sex is more than intercourse. It's also how you walk along together. It's pervasive and belongs to happen in all its ways. To narrow it down and set it aside and treat it like a business transaction necessary but best left to lawyers hardly increases the joy of companionship.
Just when I come to think that POF is entirely composed of idiots, someone writes something that restores my faith. Someone please give this man a cigar! An electronic one, of course. No need to include the carcinogens.
Men mostly want to have sex when it feels right to do so.
Women mostly have formulae, clocks, calendars, algorithms, mystical incantations, decision trees, plots, scripts, plans, statistical analyses, magic 8-balls, chicken guts, tea leaves, and cast bones. All of these they discuss endlessly. All of them are different, but the women assume that all other women have the same set. It's every bit as subjective as men's criteria, but when things don't go right, women can say, "But Chapter 5, Section III, Subsection Q, Paragraph 37 says... and he should have known that! All men are scum." | |
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