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Posted: 11/3/2009 2:18:42 AM | I'm curious as to which men would prefer out of these two extreme personalities of women. Here's the idea:
There are many different types of women and their ways of approaching a "relationship."
Making only very large, broad strokes, I'll put all women into only 2 categories...
(and I am cutting out a very large portion of the rational, wonderful, sane female population by doing so...sorry ladies, you can just skip over this.)
From these two categories, if you had to choose just one...really ask yourself which one sounds better.
The two categories are, let's say, "Ivana" (as in Ivana Trump) and "Bonnie" (as in Bonnie & Clyde). Both excitingly unique and enticing versions of women.
The more traditional mold of "Ivana," is your seemingly girl-next-door woman that is typically introduced to you in a formal setting. She's the type to create a list of acceptable pro's and con's in order to determine if you're even worth speaking to. She goes through the formality of courtship, from accepting how you look to how you talk, analyzing your profile for idiosyncrasies and evaluating if you make an acceptable living and that how you make it is also acceptable to live with.
This type of woman thinks about everything she will ever need to determine she has a problem with before she even responds to your first expression of interest. She values her time far more than she values the actual interaction. This behaviour may be the result of how she was raised to look at "suitors" or simply a self-defense mechanism developed over years of not getting what she wants.
The "Ivana" type does not want to be your friend. She wants what she wants...which is most likely to be SEEN with a respectable fellow and to be taken care of in all aspects of the word "care" except for the fact that it's perfectly fine if there is never any true love type of connection. She doesn't want a "worker" she wants an "owner." She wants whoever is the head of the company so that she can feel better about herself and what she truly believes she's worth.
Once she lands a man and has secured her future by marriage, everything changes. Her personality will wither down to a cold, distant planet that you will never really understand or ever be able to land on. She is a stranger in your home and your bed, and she will most likely shut off physical contact if she determines that you'll just find what you want somewhere else or that you will think it's your fault and attempt to continuously win her back to no avail. She'll love the attention and the fact that she has you cornered and do everything she can to make you squirm if she thinks that you're too weak to divorce her. If she thinks that you will, she'll play her role as often as needed but usually make excuses to stay away for long periods of time...usually escaping with girl friends or family. And she'll guilt trip you if you tell her it's more important to see you rather than her friends or family.
She won't care if you work constantly and don't have time for her. She'd probably prefer to not have you around because she knows she is provided for and won't die alone...and that's just good enough.
She will depend on you financially even if she has her own financial freedom and power before you met. She will give up her job the moment that you're married or downsize her part of the bread winning so that you must feel obligated to hand her whatever she asks for, lest you be accused of not being a good husband. She may have had nothing, much like the illustrious mail order bride.
She doesn't care if your friends or family like her. She couldn't possibly care less. So when you're ripped away from your friends and they call her horrible names for stealing you away...and you try to rationalize that you must spend time with them or that she must play some certain role to maintain their affection, she will not comply. She will do what she wants and more than likely, if you let her, she will even belittle you in front of them.
To "Ivana" you are a commodity, not a person. She has attained you, much like her new BMW or that covetous promotion or that Dream Home she's been wanting since she was 4 years old...or God forbid, she be given the freedom to plan the wedding.... that's her nervous breakdown she's been planning since the day she was born. She will own you and if you prove her wrong, you will have to pay your way out of the business deal. A prenup is a nice way to start your new life with her, unless you like making bad investments.
The upside to the "Ivana" is that she is beautiful beyond words and respectable and carries a certain grace to herself. She seems professional and acceptable by high standards...the perfect wife to carry on your arm in public or to that GOP rally. Men around you will be envious and this may give you a sense of pride. At heart, in order to enjoy this type of woman, you have to see her as a commodity too. You are not in a relationship, you are in an investment opportunity. You have now fulfilled your expected lifetime quota set for you by society. You get a lot of freedom as well and you'll probably dig this if you're not the monogamous type but still wish to portray the illusion of being the successful man to everyone outside of the relationship...she probably will go along with it as long as you give her everything she wants.
The total downside is that if you truly are looking for a woman that you find interesting (forever), have enjoyable sex with (forever), and enjoy spending time with (forever)... she's not going to be available to you for any of that. It may seem like it at first, but that's just her flashing her feathers to show you she's the best bird in the flock....
afterall, the brightest and most attractive colors in nature are (more often than not) the ones that are universal for "danger" or "poisonous."
The "Bonnie" category is the opposite end of the spectrum. She's the best-friend, partner in crime, soulmate, sexual fantasy, quirky, creative, talented, forever girlfriend type of girl. She doesn't give a damn if you ever propose as long as you're having fun and you keep her gears turning. She probably loves sex (sometimes TOO much) and may be very crass and emotionally demanding.
Needy doesn't begin to describe her because she's SO PASSIONATE about everything and especially you...that she forgets all about what's important in life. Money, housing, employment, family, friends, paying bills, etc.... sacrificed for the sake of her creative endeavors. She may sell the car one day just so that she can buy more canvas for her "art" and then burn it all in the backyard 2 days later....the whole time never once thinking about the consequences of her actions. In fact, she probably thinks that you'll see it as endearing...that you'll just get that she has her own way of doing things and that she doesn't "fit in" and that's why you love her. Her chosen career is "never fitting in." What she doesn't want to hear above anything else, is that she is ordinary or somehow similar to someone else. She is special and unique and no one can ever understand how she feels about anything...and no one has ever felt the kind of pain that she has felt.
There's a very good chance that she has a history of depression and horribly low self-esteem (high chance of substance abuse former and present) and a long list of, not just crazy ex boyfriends, but of employers and horrible life experiences. She's lost and confused and then she finds you...in the wilderness....she's screaming out for a saviour and a lover and a companion ...and she imprints this expectation onto you. You are saving her life by loving her. And once she has that love she is hooked on it like heroin. She'll need it constantly...you're now her addiction...or at least just another one to add to her list of many. Her addictive personality can span her need to drink coffee constantly, smoking a pack a day, eating disorders, drugs, alcohol, sex, love....everything that she enjoys or wants for herself is an obsession.
She will self destruct once in a meaningful relationship if things are not going as hoped. Placing herself directly into harm's way, she will play the victim, the damsel in distress...even getting herself physically hurt so as to catch your attention and ignite that instinct within to protect her and rescue her from imminent demise. If you don't, she'll push herself into very dark places until she either gives up on you and walks away or she eventually tries to kill herself (or does) just to rub your face in whatever the hell she thinks you're doing wrong to her.
Her goal is always the same, from "losing" her job to "accidentally" taking too many sleeping pills... she wants you to play the knight. She wants you to baby her because she thinks that's what love is. Don't ever tell her that you'll help her until she gets back onto her feet...because she never ever will. You'll be dragging her lazy ass forever behind you like a palate of "my life sucks but I love you, baby" bricks.
Like Nancy trying to appease her Sid, she'll do everything she can to keep you around even if that means scoring you drugs when you've been sober for 6 months.
The upside is that this girl will do anything for you...and I do mean anything. She may be batshit crazy, but whatever she's feeling is so intense that it's going to be close to impossible to make her not love you anymore. If you want to know what it's like to be sucked into a tornado, chewed up, spit out, then sucked back in again over and over and over again until you think your head is going to explode...she's your girl. She'll love you so hard and so fast that she'll never be able to get enough of you and you'll never have to worry about being alone because she'll be there...ALL THE FREAKING TIME. She'll let you get away with murder and probably join you in doing it. She may even do it on her own and then bring home a severed head like a cat leaving a dead mouse on your door step as a gift. She'll fulfill all of your wildest fantasies and then some....just so you love her all the more.
The downside is that she'll drag you down as far as she can just to make you as codependent as she is. Just as she's your tragically poetic Juliet or your always needing to be rescued Bella Swan, she'll be the biggest pair of concrete shoes you'll ever wear. Her demands are on a cosmic level. She wants the world and you to deliver it through a gaping hole in your chest where you cut out your own heart to feed it to her when she was hungry in the middle of the night.
So after reading all of this...assuming that you did.... which is better? Mind you, most women are in between these two categories or nothing like either of them...but if you had to pick a stereotype...which would you? | |
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| Stereotypical Women
Posted: 11/3/2009 2:30:51 AM |
From these two categories, if you had to choose just one...really ask yourself which one sounds better.
You forgot option #3: Remain single.
I choose option #3. | |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 2:39:39 AM | | Smart man. I'd have to say that anyone that actually chooses to have one of these relationships is just desperate to just be in a relationship at all. | |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 3:06:29 AM | | out of the 2.. i'd have to say bonnie (just because she'd be more into the relationship with ME than with my investments)... but seriously neither would be worth giving a second glance, let alone getting into a relationship with | |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 3:14:44 AM | | Option 3 all the way. Neither are anything I'd want to end up with. | |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 3:40:26 AM | I'd cut Ivana's head and attach it to Bonnie's body.....
that way i'd have a smart woman with passionate heart .....
or..........
marry Ivana and keep Bonnie as my mistress ....?  | |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 3:59:18 AM | I'm sorry, but other than the fact that you were bored and had nothing else to do at 2am, is there ANY logical purpose to this 18+ paragraphs of nonsensical & completely unrealistic BS??
OP, find a hobby that isn't a total waste of time & space... | |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 4:03:18 AM | Talk about stereotypes.
A woman telling people what they can and cannot do.
...sorry ladies, you can just skip over this.
Sorry ,you can't tell women not to respond to your post.
Most rational men would stay away from either extreme and bossy women in general no matter how "cute" they are.
Hold a gun to their head and say choose and most would probably pick Trumps ex, have a blast and get a good divorce settlement, depends on their life experiences and what they want out of life.
A little Bonnie may be just what they need for a while, then leave the state under another identity.
I'm sorry, but other than the fact that you were bored and had nothing else to do at 2am, is there ANY logical purpose to this 18+ paragraphs of nonsensical & completely unrealistic BS?? LMAO
Now there is a man..
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Posted: 11/3/2009 4:10:53 AM | | You're wrong pepperment, hold a gun to my head and say choose, I'll say shoot. | |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 4:17:29 AM |
You're wrong pepperment, hold a gun to my head and say choose, I'll say shoot.
I stand corrected
You are funny...
We need a gun icon blasting away.
op Those are two extreme cases as you already know. A gun may be the answer to this question. Blindfold..cigarette? | |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 4:24:09 AM | I am Thelma and Louise, two people in one. Possibly the Banger Sisters, too. I have multiple personalities and Ivana isn't one of them. That one is too easy.
Face on, face off. What is my motivation for today?
I am ready for my closeup, Mr. DeMille. | |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 5:44:21 AM | | I would rather go out in a blaze of passion than die in a sedentary life of pretentious boredom. | |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 6:41:25 AM | | Those two are the same woman, at different times of the month. | |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 8:15:37 AM | | Holy crap! Bonnie in ur 1st and 2nd paragrahs of describing her is giving me the chills...lol. Just insert my last couple interests names. They dont handle stress very well indeed, but u went overboard with the suicidal/self destructiveness. They are the type who if everythings good, then ur on top of the world. But it only takes a split second for that to become total opposite. They take every small problem and go to extreme. Sometimes simple things u say can create the biggest dang problem. These ladies are the strongest lovers in showing love and the quickest to slam the door. They can rip ur heart out in one second and next minute make u believe it never happened. Wow! Thanks for that, I want none of either. The 1st lady is a fake. The 2nd is the Angel from Heaven, and the Darkangel from Hell all in one. | |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 8:22:38 AM | | In conclusion! Bonnie types I assure u are very hard most times to spot till they show u their Darkangel! They hide that well and never seem to reveal it till ur in deep. Trust me I'm not blind or overlooked it before it smacked the crap outa me...lol. Easyiest way I know how to spot em is if they try and convince u quickly of things about who they are. If they are extremely jealous, and evasive about alota aspects of their past relationships and such. | |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 9:59:10 AM | | Bonnie by a mile. What exactly is the point of being involved with Ivana? Bonnie might be a handful but at least one can have an actual relationship with her. | |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 10:34:29 AM | Option 4 - panic don't read the whole thing then claim that you prefer a third non-existent option
Seriously though, why must there only be two options in this scenario. I want a woman without all the drama but still enjoys having me around and doesn't look at me like just a workhorse. | |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 10:35:18 AM | I'd just choose the one with the bigger boobs.
Who cares about a woman's personality anyway? | |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 10:40:45 AM | I've best learned to understand women using the approach of thinking in terms of their millions of year old attraction mechanisms. Believe me, it explains a lot! Also looking at nature, and the genetic angles of mate selection, sperm wars, ect.
I don't know those women you spoke of. Possibly you could rephrase your question with characters I can relate too. How about Raquel, in a million years BC? Now that's one girl/women I'd like to have living next door! | |
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