| Sex versus love
Posted: 11/3/2009 9:39:04 AM | this question keeps being asked lately, so rather than send people back into the archives...I figured we'd start a'new.
I'm not certain why its a problem. It seems simple to me. Sex is like drinking beer--its an activity that creates a buzz. You can do it alone, with friends, or with strangers. If you see it as only pleasure, then you never feel like you "gave it up too soon". You get what you expect, right away.
But if you see it as something you trade for company or as a sign of love...then I can see how someone would feel that way, and need to post questions like, "when is it time to have sex in a new relationship?"
The difference between love and sex? Love is what happens outside the sex. Sex is a medium thru which one shares life with another. Are there other mediums a person uses to share their life with you? Do they take you to events they enjoy, to hang out with families and friends, et cetera? Then they appreciates your company. Do they help you when you need help, just b/c they hates seeing you hurt? Then they could be in love.
anyone want to go further on this...or disagree? | |
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| Sex versus love
Posted: 11/3/2009 9:46:18 AM | | When I have sex with the person I love, I'm making love. Sex without love is nothing more than a mechanical, functional act. Making love is completely different, it's an expression of so many indescribable emotions, thoughts and feelings. I can't have sex with someone I don't love. | |
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| Sex versus love
Posted: 11/3/2009 9:48:55 AM |
I can't have sex with someone I don't love.
Another man card revoked.. what a complete load of crap. | |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 9:50:06 AM | Why would people vote to delete this thread?
The emoticons on here are very limited..I wanted a confused or doh one | |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 10:00:34 AM |
Another man card revoked.. what a complete load of crap. In your f*cked up world maybe, but I've never had sex with a woman I haven't been in-love with.
It is you who is talking a complete and utter load of shite, and you have the gall to tell me how I feel about women and sex in one sentence. Who the **** in the dark do you think you are???? | |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 10:05:25 AM | | ^^^^^^^He's an angry man who has lost his fuzzy spot. | |
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| Sex versus love
Posted: 11/3/2009 10:07:48 AM | Well it must be obvious and will become moreso, if this thread survives OP, that not everyone see's sex as some sort of functional recreational activity.
Some people do have sex as an expression of love, or caring about that person, as well as the more obvious reasons.
Just thought that needed pointing out.
G. x | |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 10:10:48 AM |
but I've never had sex with a woman
Now that I can believe. | |
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| Sex versus love
Posted: 11/3/2009 10:24:01 AM | Only This..
i see you have a beautiful young daughter,.. how ytou must look forward to the day when some guy is banging your daughter for recreational sex.
Without loving caring or respecting her.
Yep, karma is a **** old man, think on this before you try to put some other man down, are'nt you a little old for high school 'boys' type peer pressure?
G. x | |
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| Sex versus love
Posted: 11/3/2009 10:26:34 AM | Now, now boys, play nice.
It means different things to different people. Haven't we learned that by this time? I guess not. | |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 10:38:39 AM | Ahh how refreshing, to wake up in the morning, on a beautiful day, and see the reponses to this thread, before stepping out the door...
Kinda makes ya wonder, what the world is coming too...
Gotta luv the forums though!...provides for entertainment... | |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 10:41:14 AM |
He's an angry man who has lost his fuzzy spot.
What's a "fuzzy spot"? I think I'm missing something here........... | |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 10:52:59 AM | Yep, karma is a **** old man
I'm not that much older than you and according to my daughter, you're ancient. Life is a matter of perspective old lady.
I can't make decisions about sex for my daughter but what I can do is arm her with the knowledge of how REAL MEN think about women and sex.
are'nt you a little old for high school 'boys' type peer pressure?
Peer pressure...
Omg sweetie.. you think *I'M* the one being dishonest about how men think about sex?? | |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 11:00:39 AM | | In my world, sex is NOT versus love. I won't have sex without love. Doesn't work for me, and never has. | |
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| Sex versus love
Posted: 11/3/2009 11:00:54 AM | Sex without love is nothing more than a mechanical, functional act. Making love is completely different, it's an expression of so many indescribable emotions, thoughts and feelings. I can't have sex with someone I don't love.
Sex without love is far from mechanical and functional in my experience....I can show passion without feeling love...especially in terms of physical sex...sex without love is more like unbridled desires being unleashed and satisfied without the restriction of feelings...that being said....I don't go beyond "sex with like"...... | |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 11:15:37 AM |
who said he doesn't have sex with a woman he's not in love with - Good for You!
I honestly don't know what I find more fascinating .. the guys who spew this crap about needing love for sex (like if some hottie shook her bootie at that dude he wouldn't cream all over himself to get her) or the women like you who still buy into that bs.
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Posted: 11/3/2009 11:17:00 AM | I can't make decisions about sex for my daughter but what I can do is arm her with the knowledge of how REAL MEN think about women and sex.
So by this am I to take it, Only This, that you feel that men who have emotionless, recreational objectifying sex are the only REAL MEN?
Jeez, are you gonna screw your daughters head up big time.
I feel sorry for her, if this is what her dad is going to tell her is the normal behaviour of a 'real man'. I'm cringeing at your descriptions of women as 'hotties' at your age, grow the f*** up man, you are seriously creeping me out with your obvious contempt for women. I worry how you're going to taint your daughters mind.
Maybe its true for you, maybe its true for a lot of men, but for those who do engage more than their di*ks whilst having sex, it doesnt make them 'fake men.
Edit, I agree baked Sushi, it doest have to be kove, but it does have to be at least 'Like' with a big L, with a healthy dose of actually caring somewhat for the other person.
A lot of women and men see sex as something more than a handshake.
G. x | |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 11:19:54 AM | | What if you're in love with sex? | |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 11:23:38 AM |
So by tis am I to take it, Only This, that you feel that men who have emotionless, recreational objectifying sex are the only REAL MEN?
I didn't say that. What I said was that men (and I would bet plenty of women as well) DO NOT need to feel an emotional connection to have and enjoy sex. Men who spout nonsense to the contrary are lying.
Falling in love and being in a committed relationship is great. It is what we are all after. To suggest that sex is only enjoyable under such circumstances is beyond ludicrous. | |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 11:26:53 AM | Only This..
No one has said sex without emotion for men isnt possible, of course it is, and its probably the norm,.. it is YOU who is refusing to accept that women and yes, some men, feel differently than you do. To accuse a man of lying, because he differs from your take on things is ludicrous.
G. x | |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 11:32:22 AM |
sex without emotion ... and its probably the norm,..
Why thank you.
it is YOU who is refusing to accept that women and yes, some men, feel differently than you do.
Oh I accept that women feel differently about sex. I learned you had to mind fk em first in about the 8th grade. I also agree with you that men in this category are outside the norm.. ergo.. abnormal. | |
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Posted: 11/3/2009 11:38:16 AM |
Oh I accept that women feel differently about sex. I learned you had to mind fk em first in about the 8th grade
I was right about you Only This, a few posts up.
Dude, you're creepy.
Obnoxious, rude and very creepy. | |
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| Sex versus love
Posted: 11/3/2009 11:47:22 AM | Sex versus love? What, now we can only have one and not the other?
Ideally, sex is an expression of love.
That said, sex also does feel good,and while I am not advocating indiscriminate, intemperate boinking everything that crosses your path, I do believe that reasonable and responsible people can have sex with someone without that person being their "soulmate" or whatever. I certainly don't recommend having sex with someone you thoroughly dislike, or that you don't know from Adam's off ox.
So,onlythis, do you go up to women and say " I don't want to be your friend or be in a relationship with you, I just want to f*ck you and forget you?" Or do you have a package of pretty lies you tell?
I'm perfectly willing to believe that there are guys who regard sex as something very special and meant to be shared with a woman he loves. I've even heard of men who don't much like sex. But I have to kind of agree with "onlythis"...most men do not have to love, like or even be much attracted to a woman in order to have sex with her.
But I do not believe that it's a black and white, either/or "VERSUS" situation. And we probably ought not to cast aspersions and call names at people whose sexual philosophy differs from our own. Provided that the particular philosophy is presented HONESTLY.
Cindy O | |
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| Sex versus love
Posted: 11/3/2009 11:47:59 AM | It's the word 'love ' I think that has different meaning to different people. For me, I could never have sex with someone I didn't respect. So respect is a form of love to me.
For some women the vagina is a life giving entrance, and the idea of allowing just anyone to enter this special area becomes very important. Know people who are more picky about who get to drive or ride in their car than who they have sex with.
You can replace a car, you cannot take back the emotional pain or physical harm of a bad sex partner.
~Beth~ | |
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