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Posted: 11/4/2009 12:55:41 PM | I watched on the news about a sheffield student who was caught urinating on a war memorial whilst he was drunk.
He was caught on CCTV soaking a wreath of poppies at the main war memorial in the city. Seems he downed a bottle of Whisky before going out on the town and said he has never been so drunk and is so sorry for what he did.
Now as much as I was enraged at what he did I know some folk get so drunk as not to know exactly what they are doing.
He could face prison for what he did. So do you think he should be jailed..
Or have you ever been so drunk that you didnt know what you were doing and think he should be delt with more leniently.. | |
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Posted: 11/4/2009 1:00:39 PM | A good few hours of community service i think would surfice.
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Posted: 11/4/2009 1:03:34 PM | I think community service, working for the British Legion would serve a better purpose in this instance.
It's disrespectful what he did but he shouldn't be placed with hardened criminals for it. | |
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Posted: 11/4/2009 1:04:55 PM | No he should not be jailed.. waste of money. Im sure with all the back lash (better than back splash!) he feels a right tw*t.
Give him a kicking and forget about it...
The dead should never be dishonoured... good, bad, in line of duty... | |
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Posted: 11/4/2009 1:06:23 PM | men pee anywhere and everywhere when they are drunk.......so I really can't see what the big deal is......did he do it on purpose as a mark of disrespect or did he just need to pee?
I've known guys who regularly pee'd in the wardrobe and fireplaces when they went to bed after a skin full........and one night a mate of mine woke up to find her brother pissing all over her bed!
Men pee.........it's what they do.........it's no big deal | |
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Posted: 11/4/2009 1:07:13 PM | He is so sorry he got caught more like it he should go to prison.
Being drunk is no excuse was he force fed the bottle of wisky?
Its not difficult to know when you have had enought to drink | |
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Posted: 11/4/2009 1:12:33 PM | | He is not the first person to get drunk and pee somewhere he shouldn't, I'm sure there are many people on here who have done it at some point. Sending him to prison for it would be a ridiculous overreaction. | |
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Posted: 11/4/2009 1:13:49 PM | oh come on.....so he peed........big deal!
I can understand the outrage if he did it maliciously.....but did he?
Was his intention to befoul the memory of dead soldiers?
or was he just a bloke who took a leak in the wrong place whilst bladdered? huge difference
It smacks of a non event being blown out of all proportion just because a) It's Rememberance Day and b) because it was a low news day! | |
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Posted: 11/4/2009 1:20:18 PM |
men pee anywhere and everywhere when they are drunk......
As do women! There was a pic in the paper of Coppers making a lass wash her pi*s off the pavement with a power-washer, something I think should happen more often with anyone who fouls the pavement.
As for the Youth in question, gaol seems harsh, make him clean the whole monument with a toothbrush, whilst wearing a day-glow vest with the slogon "Poppy Pis*ing Punishment" emblazoned on it! | |
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Posted: 11/4/2009 1:26:19 PM | It's usually a fixed penalty for that sort of thing. OK he was stupid and thoughtless to wee on a war memorial and needs pulling up for that - but the fact it's hit the media is probably enough to do that.
This is one of the only countries in the world where we are expected to have iron bladders that we can hold for ever. All the loos now close before closing time and councils use every excuse to get rid of them and not put ones into any new developments. Years ago loos were open all the time (or some of them) - it's how cottaging started.
How many years was there just one service area on the M25 motorway? We don't exactly encourage people to use proper facilities - because in this country we either don't put them in place or close the things when demand is at its highest.
Maybe we need a new law - if there's no public lavvy open within a mile - we can have the right to wee down a road drain? | |
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Posted: 11/4/2009 1:39:15 PM | Go to prison for it? How ridiculous. It was disrespectful but he was off his face. Ive known men get up in the night when theyve been drunk and pee in wardrobes, on tv sets and standard lamps thinking they were doing it in the right place. I dont know any women that do that.
Our prisons are too full as it is. No wonder if they send people for these type of offences. | |
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Posted: 11/4/2009 1:40:14 PM | no what a waste on money.
He should be made to clean up after a friday night all the wee and vomit. ooooooo with his tooth brush hee heee yep i am sick | |
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Posted: 11/4/2009 1:40:52 PM |
He could face prison for what he did. So do you think he should be jailed..
Or have you ever been so drunk that you didnt know what you were doing and think he should be delt with more leniently..
I dont think he should be jailed, I'm not sure after a bottle of scotch I would know wether I was pissing on a poppy or a police car, its drunken stupidity at worse, a fine or a bit of comunnity punishment, maybe making him scrub the memorial would be more fitting.
Have you ever been out with a bunch of drunken squaddies? them feckers will piss in your pockets while your carrying a tray of drinks! | |
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Posted: 11/4/2009 1:41:18 PM | | 200 hrs community service at his nearest rehabilitation hospital for injured servicemen should do it. | |
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Posted: 11/4/2009 2:36:07 PM | i would bring back the stocks, cost feck all and you get the wrath of the public. i live in a rough area and no way on earth would that be allowed to happen. forget about the do gooders, thats why we have broken britain ffs!!
edit and how is he innocent? | |
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Posted: 11/4/2009 2:42:05 PM | | absolutely ridiculous, he didn't do it maliciously, you telling me servicemen have never done something stupid when drunk? He's now going to end up with a criminal record that will follow him all his life..how unfair is that...we have the stupidest system that ruins the lives of the innocent but lets the guilty go free! | |
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Posted: 11/4/2009 3:19:41 PM | JUST REMEMBERANCE DAY/LOW NEWS DAY
Wot a load of tosh
remember who gave you a life
DEAD SOLDIERS DID
HOPE HE GETS WOTS COMING TO HIM
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Posted: 11/4/2009 3:23:52 PM | Since there are rarely any public toilets open or in place in our towns now, I can understand why he did it.
Jail is a waste of time, its just urine & I am sure he is more than ashamed enough already by the whole event, putting him to the pillory serves what use? | |
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Posted: 11/4/2009 3:30:09 PM | Lets get this into perspective, he pissed on something that was entirely inappropriate, he did not murder someone. Lets remember that. I am very sorry for people who are killed in battle, my gran lost her dad in WW1 but what is the point in mock outrage. There are plenty of atrocities going on around the globe, peeing on some poppies is at the very low end of things.
I'm quite sure service personnel themselves have got bladdered and done inappropriate things, he's human, he made a mistake and he's sorry. Save the locking up for people who really deserve it. Send him to do some community work and give him help if he needs it for alcohol counselling. | |
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Posted: 11/4/2009 3:30:38 PM | Not jailed, but instead made to do a long slog of community service. I'm sure he feels humiliated enough, the entire country knows his name and there are lynch mobs out to get him. He's hardly living the high life right now, and his near future is pretty much bolloxed.
Not an example of broken britain, but an idiot who drank too much and dared over step the mark.
Broken britain: Gangs of kids beating do good-ers to death for defending their property/girlfriend's witch hat. | |
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Posted: 11/4/2009 3:49:45 PM | for all the do gooders, lets make the towns crems a public toilet ... after all its the same thing surely?? like to see the reaction if someone peed over a relatives tombstone and them saying well he was drunk ... it amounts to the same thing!! its there to remember the dead!!
edit, again proves that broken britain is down to the person on the street | |
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Posted: 11/4/2009 3:59:25 PM | Has anyone who posted on this thread ever skipped a queue? Thats also unrespectful. Eat, drink and be merry and f$ck the police  | |
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Posted: 11/4/2009 4:10:56 PM | So would locking him up serve any purpose whatsoever? Would cost the taxpayer a fortune and people are always going on about taxpayers money being wasted. Shove him in a cell at a cost of a grand a week, that will sort him out, teach him a lesson. Or maybe get him out in the community and doing some work, get him some proper alcohol counselling. Is locking him up and throwing away the key going to change what he did? I'm not a do gooder either, I just don't see the point in throwing the book at someone who has made a stupid mistake and who is obviously very sorry.
Anyone pissing in the street should be told to clean up their mess, I think it's a disgrace what he did, but it's also a disgrace that people can spend a tenner and get so bladdered they end up kipping in a shop doorway and then pissing on the memorial like he did.
Someone thought to film him on their camera but they didn't think to stop him? I live in a rough area as well but if someone pissed on a war memorial at 3am on their own, you would be hard pressed to stop them. That doesn't mean I'm advocating that people pee on gravestones or on war memorials, just that sending someone to prison for that when people who kill people when drink driving get fined, lets get some perspective on it, he didn't kill anyone, there are people who do kill people when driving and they don't get jailed.
Broken Britain is down to a lot of things, I don't recall ever having lived in utopia. | |
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Posted: 11/4/2009 4:22:21 PM | Prison is a bit harsh considering what people get away with in society. I’m surprised that prison was even an option for him.
I agree with another post…community service at a veterans home and made to learn some respect for the older generations that gave their lives for our freedom! He deserves a slap for it and people ought to know better, drunk or not! | |
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