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Posted: 10/27/2004 5:01:37 PM | | if u have a problem with that split the bill. | |
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Posted: 10/27/2004 8:39:02 PM | | I don't even want to know what really goes on in the Army ... | |
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Posted: 11/8/2004 8:02:06 PM | if the woman makes a lot more than the man then she should pay and vice versa. if they make the same amount then they can go dutch. most women think a man that expects her to pay is a loser and a freeloader. i know it is a bit of a double standard but it is the only one that women have going in our favor. | |
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Posted: 11/8/2004 11:38:57 PM | | I for one, always split the bill! Don't want him thinking that I owe him anything! | |
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Posted: 11/8/2004 11:55:42 PM | Why do men not want to pay should be the question?...If I am meeting someone for the first time and its starbucks quickie, I certainly don't feel obligated, but I tell you what...I'd pay anyway cause I can afford the 3 bucks. If its a real date, and you asked her out...wtf? you better pay. Cheap people suck. If she invites you, and makes the plans..you better offer to at least go dutch...cause you know why...you don't want to be a cheap s.o.b.
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Posted: 11/9/2004 1:01:04 AM | > Why do men not want to pay should be the question?...
no, I think the question should be, why are we automatically *expected* to.
My rule is simple. You ask, you offer. If I ask you out, I'll offer to pay. If you ask me out, I'll find out if I'm expected to either pay, split, or what.
Anything else in this day of "equality" is just one-sided sexism. | |
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Posted: 11/9/2004 1:36:54 AM | | if you got the money pay if not tell her your broke areal female should understand | |
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Posted: 11/9/2004 3:59:45 PM | | I don't go out, unless I can pay, I allways offer to pay, even if I don't want to. I go dutch only once in a while, and I let her buy me all the gifts she wants. I open the door, I tell her how great she looks, even if she doesn't look good. I draw the line at attitude..if she has one, I have been known in times past to get up and leave..without paying the check. ( worst case scenario..and it happened only once). I don't buy flowers, cause they die, and I save the really good restaraunts for date 3 and 4. | |
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Posted: 11/9/2004 4:37:42 PM | Well the the why question i would say thats how its been for ages the "Man" would be the gentleman help a woman off her horse, protect her from dragons, bring them out to the drive thru lol u know long time ago stuff. The thing is lots has changed since the 1800s and I'll have to agree with Jojo on paying most of the time spliting if she does the asking etc. Its part of our Honor to pay to bring a woman out. So i believe :P | |
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Posted: 11/9/2004 4:58:36 PM | | I usually pay the first date. I don't want the guy thinking I owe him another date because he paid for my dinner. This way I have no guilt issues taking a walk if I don't want date #2. | |
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Posted: 11/9/2004 7:52:47 PM | ive been on a few/about 7 dates from here and another site and i paid on only one, not because i didnt WANT to ( i practically insisted on paying my share/half) however the gentlemen in question were just that.... ) i WANTED to pay because im stubborn and independant, etc :-) & i dont want to be obligated in any way....
Later, & hugs to all, Blondago56/Mary M. | |
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Posted: 11/9/2004 9:28:32 PM | I wouldn't let a lady pay even if she made a royal scene about it.
Not negotiable! | |
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Posted: 11/9/2004 9:32:56 PM | | ttr understands....and is a gentleman :-) | |
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Posted: 11/9/2004 11:56:03 PM | It's all genetics, buddy. It's locked up in our DNA. You don't HAVE to buy dinner on the first date. Just like the first cavemen didn't HAVE to drag home a Wolly Mammoth. But guess which caveman got laid first? You guessed it: the one with the biggest pile of tusks in front of his cave.
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Posted: 11/10/2004 8:18:49 AM | Because, in the grand scheme of things, Men persue women and are judged by how good they can provide. I know that sounds old fashioned, but it is still true. Women do select mates based on how sound they are financially and can be in the future.
If you want to understand a lot about male-female interactions then I suggest you look into a branch of socialogy called SocioBiology.
Of course there are always exceptions to any rule... | |
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Posted: 11/10/2004 6:57:39 PM | | I wish i could understand how anyone would want to be the "Bachelor" like really look how bad some of the girls look when he knocks them off they seem so sad. Sure lots of good looking girls but just seein one walk away crying and I'm soo outta there I'd feel so bad. Theres no way he has a concious. | |
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Posted: 11/10/2004 7:01:32 PM | Yep, regardless of what most women like to admit, it's been analyzed to death in the last few decades and women do like a guy with a little status (money being a good indication of that). I'm not saying that this makes all women money grubbing whor3s, this is just a simple *attraction* component, not a real part of long term love.
Go look up "phenylethylamine" it's the love drug your body produces. Makes you get butterflys when a guy stares directly in your eyes. When women look for their match (their genetic future) they want security, commitment, etc... and the drug kicks in.
Go ahead and yell and shout at me about how unromantic all this is.
I simply decided to take a different view in this topic since you always get 50 guys/gals screaming about how that is not how they are and such. | |
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Posted: 11/10/2004 7:06:48 PM | Maybe can't purchase the compound... but i thought E enhanced it for a short term  | |
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Posted: 11/10/2004 7:09:32 PM |
sexxykitty says: if the woman makes a lot more than the man then she should pay and vice versa.
I disagree. I believe that it's important to start a relationship as equals, and one person paying for the other can too easily make it feel like the person who isn't paying isn't contributing as much. I don't think you should accept someone else paying for you even if it's offered and the money is significant to you. At least, at the start of the relationship.
That said, what do I know? I don't exactly get a lot of dates. :P
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Posted: 11/23/2005 6:38:29 AM | Now I haven't witnessed this in person. But I read that if you ask her out and she insists on paying/splitting that she isn't interested in a second date and doesn't want to be obligated. Has anyone noticed this?
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Posted: 11/23/2005 9:11:58 AM | When I'm out on a first date, when he reaches for the check, I'll reach for my purse.
Every guy I've been out with has either told me not to worry about it, or made motions to put it away. I figure at that point, I've offered, he has declined, and it's all good.
If I like the guy, and want to see him again, I'll laugh and say something like, "Fine, but next time is my treat." Or if it's dinner and a movie, I'll quietly insist on getting the movie tickets. It's not that I don't want to feel obligated - I refuse to let the concept of obligation get involved when I'm dating someone - it's that I don't want to put him out, and I do have enough money to pick up my share of a date. I always suggest reasonably priced restaurants, because I don't want to put myself or the other person in the position of dinner being a financial hardship. | |
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Posted: 11/23/2005 1:02:59 PM | Why are we expected to pay?
I think it is a nice gesture when chivalry and gentlemen like conduct was expected and appreciated. These days the dating scene (depending on location) has changed a lot. For example remember when:
- Females weren't supposed to ask men out?
- Females weren't supposed to make the first phone call?
- It was disrespectful to swear or curse in the pressence of a lady?
- Men were supposed to pay on all dates, not just the first?
- Men were supposed to open every door for their date?
- Test: Which side of you is the lady supposed to walk on a date? Left or Right?
Chivalry has died (at least around in my area) and for the gentlemen reading this that still practice, most women won't notice it or find it a bit odd. Maybe cute, maybe desperate. Paying on the first date and going all out for them is just something that has been held onto since dates used to be a little bit more of a formal event. | |
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Posted: 11/23/2005 3:51:35 PM |
Now I haven't witnessed this in person. But I read that if you ask her out and she insists on paying/splitting that she isn't interested in a second date and doesn't want to be obligated. Has anyone noticed this?
Just my .02
eh no, haven't seen that.
I have seen instances where the woman will offer to pay and if you accept it that will kill the chance of a second date.
Another one of their tests for us guys lol | |
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