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| | What is your personal backup plan?Page 1 of 4 (1, 2, 3, 4) | What if the economy doesn't get better?
What if it gets way worse?
What if we experience severe hyperinflation, and even more severe unemployment?
What will you do if it begins to look like we're headed for rioting, looting, urban unrest, marshall law, or even civil war?
Do you believe it can't happen because the United States is "too big to fail"?
Do you have a backup plan in case it does? If so, tell us about it... | |
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| What is your personal backup plan? Posted: 3/3/2010 1:40:23 PM | This is a funny thread and so I reserve the right to post obnoxious answers!!!!
What if the economy doesn't get better? If the Neocons and TPM get their way (do their best to make Obama fail) I suppose that could happen.
What if it gets way worse? We'll probably have turn out the pets (won't be able to afford them) ... and give up a few vehicles ... and turn the backyard into an even bigger garden than we already have. Otherwise, the occupations of the people where I live ... are all service oriented (legal and medical) and we can probably barter our services for just about anything we need. Three nurses in the house and there's always a need for that ... right?
What if we experience severe hyperinflation, and even more severe unemployment? Then some of you rich good ole' boys will finally have to share a little with those who have nothing?  
What will you do if it begins to look like we're headed for rioting, looting, urban unrest, marshall law, or even civil war? Send all the gun-toting, "joe the (not licensed) plumbers", racists, bigots, (rednecks) with their jacked up pick up trucks and loud boom boxes ... to the south and let the south secede.
Do you believe it can't happen because the United States is "too big to fail"? No ... I think if it ever got close to that, we'd just have to stop being so generous with our support of others who really don't need funding from us (Israel, etc.). We'd get all kinds of flack from the wealthy countries who still have their hands out ... but they'd have to suck it up just like us.
Do you have a backup plan in case it does? If so, tell us about it... I'm not concerned about it.
As soon as we get health care passed and people won't be made homeless by doctor bills, things will look very different. | |
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| What is your personal backup plan? Posted: 3/3/2010 2:18:53 PM | Send out for Chinese...Language Lessons?
Start buying up cheap land now?
Build a "death star?"
Send government cheese to Super Ryan
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| What is your personal backup plan? Posted: 3/3/2010 2:37:28 PM | ^^^^Hey!!! If you're passing out cheese ... I'll send my address!!
One of the neighbors has some steers and another neighbor has some horses and burros. It just occurred to me ... the only thing we don't have nearby is a cow ... otherwise we're set!!!
Oh well ... I guess that'll be one of the things we barter for ... I'll take care of your sick grandmother if I can have some fresh milk everyday. | |
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| What is your personal backup plan? Posted: 3/3/2010 2:41:49 PM | | I will petition my government to build a 30 foot fence along the border to keep all of the American refugees from pouring across the border. | |
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| What is your personal backup plan? Posted: 3/3/2010 3:41:34 PM |
I will petition my government to build a 30 foot fence along the border to keep all of the American refugees from pouring across the border.
Interesting... But don't you want to add, "...with OUR money?"
I mean, after all, our ancestors came here because it sucked where they were... If we seriously tank, won't there be many Americans who will choose to do the same?
I'm thinking there certainly would be, but by then, I honestly wonder if they will still be allowed to take their money and leave?
At first glace, the answer to that question is, "Well of course they will", but what will happen when and if the Progressives (Socialists) see a mass exodus taking billions of dollars with them, and out of our economy?
I have a feeling this way be a really fun thread to ressurect in a year or two... Please, keep the quotes coming ;) | |
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| What is your personal backup plan? Posted: 3/3/2010 4:00:08 PM | What will you do if it begins to look like we're headed for rioting, looting, urban unrest, marshall law, or even civil war? Shoot all the teabaggers and neocons before they can work up a full head of steam... turn their corpses into oil... live in their houses... redistribute their money... farm their land...
That way we can kill two birds (or more) with one stone as it were... save the country, have a "socialist" America and get rid of that annoying buzzing sound (to hear it, just plug your ears and say "NOOOOOOOOOO!" over and over)... all in one fell swoop... | |
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| What is your personal backup plan? Posted: 3/3/2010 5:53:23 PM |
Interesting... But don't you want to add, "...with OUR money?"
Money? I thought you all were broke.
Ok we will let in your top 5% since they control almost all the wealth anyway. Although I doubt they would want to come here considering we have socialized health care. And banking regulations. And a progressive tax system.
You know, I think they just may be happier going to Somalia. There isn't much of a government there which is what you teabagger types want anyway. You know, no regulations, no laws, freedom as you like to say.
Ya I think that's the place for you. | |
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| What is your personal backup plan? Posted: 3/3/2010 6:59:36 PM | >
You know, I think they just may be happier going to Somalia. There isn't much of a government there which is what you teabagger types want anyway. You know, no regulations, no laws, freedom as you like to say.
Ya I think that's the place for you. Yuppers ... actually from my contact with the Somalians (Columbus, Ohio) ... from what the people who run from there tell me, it sounds like the perfect place for the Neocons and Tea Baggers.
There is no government, therefore no laws. There is definitely no socialized health care ... actually, no health care at all. But I suppose if one has a gun and a big enough mouth ... Uh huh ... people with guns would do better over there.
If a man is rich enough, he's allowed to have several wives, but each wife has to have her own home. It's not like those communes where all the wives and children are under one roof. The wives decide where the man spends the night ... they get together and make out the schedule ... he just follows the schedule.
But the pick-up trucks won't do you much good there. Take plenty of room air freshner with you and things that will make you smell good even if you don't wash ... because that's not something they do often.
Ya that sounds like a good plan for the Neocons and Tea Baggers ... like the man said, "no regulations, no laws, freedom as you like to say."
AND ... no bothersome universal health care to complain about. LMAO ... there is no health care at all. That's why they're all streaming into the US as fast as they can ... to get on Medicaid and Medicare and Disability ...  | |
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| What is your personal backup plan? Posted: 3/3/2010 10:02:14 PM | Here's what I don't get.
I look at America, and I see a great country and history. I see a place where you have so much going for you, compared to many other places, that it's stunning to me that Americans are sitting there thinking like this.
Remember now, I come from a country that came this close to breaking up - twice thanks to political referendums.
The last time ?
The referendum took place in Quebec on October 30, 1995, and the motion to decide whether Quebec should secede from Canada was defeated by a very narrow margin of 50.58% "No" to 49.42% "Yes".
No: 2,362,648 (50.58%) Yes: 2,308,360 (49.42%) Valid ballots 4,671,008 98.18% Rejected ballots 86,501 1.82% Participation rate 4,757,509 93.52%
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_referendum,_1995
54,000 votes, out of almost 4.6 million cast decided this country's fate - it doesn't get closer than that.
Almost every single eligible voter (both sides) out there taking a pencil and making an "X" in one of two circles on a piece of paper - and that could have resulted in a divided Canada.
Never, in any of that time period did I see or hear anything that approaches what I hear Americans saying now. The political polarization, although great, was far less than I see there now. Aside from the inevitable few morons here and there, it was pretty much life as usual.
My ex-wife was a separatist, and I was a federalist. It caused us zero problems as a couple. (Although one could perhaps argue the point that she did finally convince me that separation was a valid concept in the eight years that followed. )
So, perhaps you can begin to understand my bewilderment at the OP's viewpoint.
Suddenly, it's the Omega Man meets Mad Max that's awaiting you all down there ? | |
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| What is your personal backup plan? Posted: 3/3/2010 10:26:48 PM | I actually think you have some people reveling in and looking forward to the opportunity, "revenge-fantasy" style, to remake the world in their own view. Wish-fulfillment taken to the bizarre extreme.
I just don't see vested interests permitting it to go that far. They (meaning the corporatocracy) will cut off a hand, a whole arm, metaphorically speaking, to keep the money rolling in and the current system operating with some form of business as usual.
Fantasies of anything resembling a meltdown of the current USA are post-apocalyptic sci-fi and not much more. | |
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| What is your personal backup plan? Posted: 3/4/2010 4:31:52 AM | I collect coins and I've been buying gold (and silver) coins since 1999-2000. I really ramped up my buying around 2004-2005. (Took the advice from the coin magazines I get ) Got in good and deep when the price was still around 400-500 dollars a oz. I'd be ok if anything happens. Heck on the bright side if gold goes to $4000.00 a oz then I can pay off my house. But I just don't think it could get that high. Anything is possible though. I also have a small lot of foreign currency on hand. But that's cuz I got in on that when the dollar was stronger and I plan do do some travel in the future. (Took advantage of a strong dollar) We also have a crap load of land in the family. Hunting/fishing. Not real worried.
If it actually happens then worry about the UN. They will be the one offering up the solution. | |
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| What is your personal backup plan? Posted: 3/4/2010 6:26:37 AM | | It is really just the Glenn Beck fans that spend their time worrying about the need for a "back up plan" as America supposedly goes down the proverbial socialist tube. You see we have never had a president before that "hates" America and whose overall goal is to destroy it. I am not meeting and talking to any people whose thoughts are headed that direction at all. Times are tough and many are scared but this is the extreme. Read history, we have come back from worse. | |
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| What is your personal backup plan? Posted: 3/4/2010 7:14:10 AM | Grandfather taught me as a young child.
Never trust anyone to feed you. Not a government, not a corporation, not a business.
He taught me very young the importance of keeping a Garden full of healthy food.
He survived the depression as a poor man. Shot jackrabbits and ate thistle barely able to survive. Then he like many others had little choice but to get involved in the WWII.
I remember clear as day his voice telling me.
Grow a garden. If you are hungry people can make you do things you do not wish to do just to be fed. A people cannot be free without their own food supply.
People without their own food might have the illusion of freedom but, if we allow our food to be controlled by others not only must we eat things we would never even consider doing to ourselves, they can take that food away and make you do whatever it is they wish.
If it looks like people are gong to go crazy I will go to my brothers 75 acre organic farm in the middle of no where, and ride it out in peace. I have my own food here which I would turn over to my neighbors. When I first moved in here first thing I did was put in 4 gardens. This year going to put in fruit trees that will feed people for hundreds of years after I am gone from this world.
The best thing we can do is to plant our own food. Plant heirloom open pollinated seed if you wish to save your own seed every year and not have to rely on some company for seed every year.
Here's to true freedom.
"Only when the last tree has died, Only when the last river has been poisoned, Only when the last fish has been caught will man realize he cannot eat money..." -Cree native American proverb.
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| What is your personal backup plan? Posted: 3/4/2010 10:19:04 AM | >I see "Swampy" is from Georgia. He needs to hook up with these guys down in Louisiana ...  
http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/bossier-city-louisiana-prepares-for-end-of-the-world-scenario_02282010
Bossier City Louisiana Prepares for “End of the World Scenario” Author: Mac Slavo - February 28th, 2010 When Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans, emergency responders from both public and private sectors were eager to respond within hours. The failure was not with the individuals on the ground ready to help, but rather, it was with management. All levels of government failed the people of New Orleans, from the President on down to Mayor Ray Nagin. No one would make a decision, and this cost hundreds of lives and millions of dollars in additional damage. In disaster situations - real disasters - the bureaucracy always finds a way to make a difficult task even harder. Our inability to depend on the very officials we’ve elected to help us when it really counts is the very reason why the idea of taking personal responsibility for oneself during a SHTF emergency sounds so appealing. If only every city could have forward looking leaders like Sherriff Larry Deen, who recently launched “Operation Exodus”, a program designed to prepare his city for what the Shreveport Times calls an end-of-the-world scenario: The Bossier Parish sheriff’s office is launching a program called “Operation Exodus,” a policing plan for an end-of-the-world scenario involving a mostly white group of ex-police volunteers and a .50-caliber machine gun, inspired in part from the Book of Exodus in the Bible. “The buck stops with Larry Deen,” said Bossier Parish Sheriff Larry Deen. “The liability stops with Larry Deen. I am the chief law enforcement officer in this parish, and it is incumbent upon me protect all of the people in it.” Deen said he had been formulating a plan to protect Bossier Parish’s vital resources, like food and gasoline, in the event of a catastrophic event, such as war or a terrorist attack. Deen said he had been thinking of the plan since the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/03/operation_exodus_louisiana_sheriff_taps_locals_for.php
'Operation Exodus': Louisiana Sheriff Taps Locals For Emergency Security Plan Zachary Roth | March 3, 2010, 5:55PM A Louisiana sheriff plans to arm volunteers with shotguns, riot shields, batons, and a .50-caliber machine gun mounted on a "war wagon," as part of "Operation Exodus," a program to provide security in the event of a terrorist attack or civic unrest. "It's a calling," he says. The office of Sheriff Larry Deen of Bossier Parish, near Shreveport in the northwest part of the state, last month selected for the program 200 local residents -- mostly ex-law-enforcement personnel -- and began training them in "defensive techniques in the event of a struggle," reports the Shreveport Times. The plan calls for the new recruits to be sent to protect food from grocery stores, gas from gas stations, and other crucial local resources, should the situation demand it. A press release from Deen's office announcing the program declared that "recent terror threats" had made clear that "homegrown terrorists are in our midst." It continued: "With the easy accessibility of the internet, it is quite possible that these local and international terrorists can form a national or multiple location attack on our nation at any given moment." "The buck stops with Larry Deen," the sheriff, who didn't immediately respond to our interview request, told the Times. "I am the chief law enforcement officer in this parish, and it is incumbent upon me protect all of the people in it." The press release added that Operation Exodus got its name in part "because of its Biblical relevance," explaining that "In the book of Exodus, the Israelites were totally on their own, learning to be self-sufficient and handle everything alone, just as the plan provides." In a video of the first training session, posted on the sheriff's office's website, the recruits -- almost all white and male, and many appearing to be past middle-age -- gamely practice their hand-to-hand combat techniques: Doyle Dempsey, a sheriff's deputy, explains in the video that the training session is designed to "set up a prevention mode to implement during Operation Exodus." The idea, says Dempsey, is to "show an overwhelming show of force prior to any incident taking place." The video also shows a sign, apparently posted at the training session, which reads: "Hard In Drill Easy In Battle. Somewhere Right Now Your Enemy Is Training So That When He Meets You He Defeats You." Deen said that the program will cost just $4,500, in part because weapons, such as a .50-caliber machine gun mounted on what the sheriff's office calls "the war wagon," have previously been bought. Deen added he'd been mulling such a plan since the 9/11 attacks -- but he denied to the Times that he was creating a militia. "We run from that word," he said. "We're just the opposite [of] that word."
Meanwhile, only four minutes (and about 2 miles) away from Bossier City in Shreveport … the good ole boys are just that … good ole boys. http://jonathanturley.org/2009/08/14/louisiana-officer-in-beating-case-reinstated-and-given-back-pay-despite-shocking-videotape/
Louisiana Officer in Beating Case Reinstated and Given Back Pay Despite Shocking Videotape Published 1, August 14, 2009 It is always controversial when society “allows the criminal to go free because the constable blundered,” but what about allowing the constable to go free because the constable blundered? Shreveport police officer Wiley Willis became a national figure after shocking pictures were released of a woman who was beaten in his custody — after he turned off a camera in a police station. Now he has been reinstated because a polygrapher failed to record the result of a test of Willis. Not only was Willis never charged criminally, but he will now receive full back pay at the insistence of the Shreveport police officers union.
After turning off the camera, Willis left Angela Garbarino (who was arrested for DWI) with a broken nose and other injuries. The Civil Service Board ruled that Willis’ rights, under the Police Officer Bill of Rights, were violated because an expert failed to record a polygraph examination Willis took as part of the Police Department’s investigation into Garbarino’s injuries, including two black eyes and a broken nose. Willis asks if the camera is on before turning it off. When he turns the camera on again, Garbarino is beaten and bloody. The Police Chief has denounced the “technicality” and the reinstatement. I wonder if they did a rape kit investigation on her.
If I were her, I'd have a back-up plan for that guy ...  | |
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| What is your personal backup plan? Posted: 3/4/2010 11:11:50 AM | You see MG, in the USA we have a crew of people whom love to scream at everyone to love it or leave it when their guy is in office running a muck. Soon as the people elect another party into office they disagree with, they start discussing civil unrest and civil war.
They are Faux patriots.
They want their cake, your cake, the cake that belongs to everyone else, and to eat it too.
Love it or leave it indeed.
To me I don't believe in this love it or leave it shyte.
To me if you do not love what is going on one has to work harder to embody the change to make it better.
I do not wish to see either side leave it. I think both sides need each other. There are valuable things both parties and other parties have to share in the debate but, there does come a time to make changes.
To continuously do the same failing thing and expect different results is the definition of insanity.
Many of the old ideals are an utter failure yet, they want us to love those as if they were a fixed part, that can never change of America. Not only are they absolutely incorrect about this, they are in for a rude awakening if they think they can bully the rest of the nation to force it down our throats.
Holds up a mirror that reflects all the years people said love it or leave it.
I hope 2 things come from this. First I hope the right wingers of this country some whom are dear friends and family of mine, can learn that it is OK for people to have different views and still love this nation. I know this goes against conservatism, which is opposed to change but, there is not another option for something that is broken and not only sinking this economy but, the world economy.
What that change needs to be should be debated by both sides but, it is opposed to conservatism to make a change so they just become the party of NO!
I do not wish to see you people leave as you wished upon those whom did not share your views while you were in power. I wish for you to add your voice to the debate, even if after hearing that voice the people choose another route. Instead however your leaders are simply acting as obstacles and not offering anything new or novel.
Maybe we are expecting too much from you since it goes against your very nature to change. Maybe all we should expect from you is to stand in the way of progress. Which is fine too just dont be shocked when people go around you and stop paying attention to you. Since a party that is afraid of change is a afraid to live. A party that no longer can live goes the way of the dinosaur.
To me it will be sad because there are some things I agree with from the conservative movement just as there are some things on the other side I agree with. I am one whom belongs to neither side in particular, whom observes beneficial and not so beneficial things in both parties.
I remember well the lessons of my elders whom told me it takes all kinds to make the world go 'round.
It seems to me there are some extremists on the right wing whom would love nothing more than a chance to take out the nation that they once claimed to love.
So I ask where did all those supposed "patriots" whom told everyone else to love it or leave it go? Oh wait they are turning into extremist militia groups.
Sad state of affairs indeed. Well all I can say is if, god forbid this nation does decide to come apart at the seams and go down the path of civil war, get ready to speak Chinese.
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| What is your personal backup plan? Posted: 3/4/2010 11:59:26 AM | I think anyone who doesn't have a backup plan right now is an absolute FOOL.
Yes, DO "read hostory"... Why not start with "The Rise and Fall of The Roman Empire"... That's like picking up a newspaper these days... Or how about "Atlas Shrugged", which obviously isn't history, but is pretty prophetic... Sure we've come back from worse than this, but sometimes not very quickly, and what if the worst is yet to come?
When I step back and look at what's going on in our country right now, it scares me to death. When my friends in Congress, some of which I've known for over 20 years, tell me very privately that the situation is DIRE, which they would never say publicly, but will say to me privately as an old and trusted friend, well, that really gets my attention... If anyone is kept "in the know", and gets the inside scoop, it is Members of Congress... No, I will not say which ones or offer direct quotes, sorry...
I honestly believe this country MAY be too far gone to save. We may have reached the tipping point, and now, no matter what we do, it may be too little, too late. Even if we were to drastically cut the borrowing, the taxing, the spending, and the debt, we may still go into severe hyperinflation...
There are SO many triggers out there that could cause us severe problems. As an example, can you imagine what would happen if we were hit with another terrorist attack right now? What about the problems looming in the commercial real estate market? The housing foreclosures yet to come? Also - look what is happening right now with the rioting and unrest over in Greece, and it's impact on surrounding countries, which are already struggling? What if all that spreads to Europe which is already in trouble? Sooner or later, we could end up seeing the same sort of rioting in the US...
Personally, if we do start heading into a complete financial collapse, I think America is going to be a VERY unpleasant place to be, just look at what has happened in some South American countries following a Socialist takeover. It isn't pretty.
Plans for possible marshal law in the event of an emergency have already been drafted, but consider this - there are already urban areas of this country where real unemployment is already hitting as high as 37%. Well, if the checks quit coming, or the government starts issuing IOUs like California, or hyperinflation starts making a can of beans cost $10, how are all those millions of people literally going to FEED themselves? What will happen if they can't? Will they stay in the cities, or head out into the rural areas in search of food, which they cannot pay for, or may not be for sale? We could be talking about another "Holodomor" here in the US were the situation to unfold like that...
I still have the 1930 Savage 410 shotgun my great grandfather used to put meat on the family table during the last great depression, along with plenty of other gear for hunting, fishing, growing crops, and basic survival. I can hunt, fish, and I also taught wilderness survival at Boy Scout camp. My family members are all the type who can survive. That isn't the part I am all that concerned about...
Yes, maybe this country boy CAN survive, but I am more concerned about the millions of people in this country who literally COULD NOT feed themselves in that situation. We could be looking at "Mad Max and the Thunderdome"... Sure, a group of people could find a peninsula or a valley that they can defend, but even then it will take a small army to do so... I can easily envision America with forts, moats, and castles looking like the Europe my ancestors came here to flee...
Personally, my backup plan is probably going to be Belize, provided the Progressives don't find some way to prevent Americans from taking their money and fleeing ahead of all this. That tiny country is just right across the Gulf of Mexico. It has a total population of approximately 300,000 people. The main language is English. All contracts are written in English. There is secrecy in banking, like the Swiss and some islands have. It has a parliamentary form of government, and very friendly immigration policies, especially if you're coming in with money. Speaking of money, just imagine what will happen to their economy if a million Americans come pouring in with billions of dollars... It'll take off like a bottle rocket...
Now, if I'm completely wrong, then that is absolutely GREAT. Last fall, this particular "Atlas" decided to go ahead and "Shrug"... I sold my business, got myself out of all debt, and put money in the bank. I have a 5 year employment contract, and make great money. This recession is pretty much over for me, as long as the overall economy comes back, but if it doesn't, then I am going to be prepared to deal with that too. Like most of our Great Grandparents who survived the last Great Depression would have told us all, "Plan for the worst, but hope for the best". | |
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| What is your personal backup plan? Posted: 3/4/2010 12:04:54 PM |
What if it gets way worse? I'd to be a sad puppy
[What if we experience severe hyperinflation, and even more severe unemployment? I will be relocating to Jekyll Island where a group of rich white a$$holes (J. P. Morgan, James Warburg, J. D. Rockefeller, to name a few) divided their plan to create the Federal Reserve System which contributed to the redistribution of wealth from the middle class to a few already super rich wackos who pay no taxes.
What will you do if it begins to look like we're headed for rioting, looting, urban unrest, marshall law, or even civil war? That would be my opportunity to kick Ben Bernanke in the nuts and pull on Obama's large ears while asking him for my tax money back.
Do you believe it can't happen because the United States is "too big to fail"? If 9/11 was possible, I don't see what wouldn't be possible.
Do you have a backup plan in case it does? If so, tell us about it... It's secret. If I tell, then the rich greedy a$$holes who rule this world will absorb the plan all to themselves before I can get to it.
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| What is your personal backup plan? Posted: 3/4/2010 10:02:24 PM | Do you have a backup plan in case it does? If so, tell us about it...
O.K...
Friday, March 5, 2010
Consumer confidence in Canada has risen to pre-recession levels and remains ahead of similar U.S. indexes, data released Thursday shows.
The Investors Group said consumer confidence in this country has risen 3.5 points since November to 89. South of the border, the measure stands at 73.6, an increase from 67.4 recorded in November.
"With three quarters of similar consumer confidence results, we're back up to the relatively high levels that we consistently recorded throughout 2006 and 2007,” Doug Anderson, senior vice-president at Investors Group said.
“The U.S. is continuing an upward trend, but still lags well behind Canada and still not what it was before the economic crisis.”
About half of Canadian respondents said now is a good time to make a major purchase, while 31% believe it is a bad time to make such a purchase. These numbers are relatively unchanged from August and November, Investors Group said.
And Canadians are three times more likely to see themselves enjoying good financial times a year down the road than bad.
When it comes to the economy as a whole, Canadians are increasingly optimistic, Investors Group found. Thirty per cent of respondents said they see good times ahead in the next year for the national economy, while 13% see bad times, an improvement from November, when 25% saw good economic times ahead for Canada.
Looking out five years, a majority of Canadians, or 60%, believe there will be good times financially for the Canadian economy, while 28% believe there will be high unemployment and recession over this period.
http://www.torontosun.com/money/2010/03/04/13111016.html
Canadian economy grows 5%, tops forecasts
Gross domestic product expands at fastest clip in nearly a decade in the fourth quarter, making rate hikes more likely
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/economy/canadian-economy-grows-5-tops-forecasts/article1485166/
Let's see what your boys over at Langley, VA. say :
As an affluent, high-tech industrial society in the trillion-dollar class, Canada resembles the US in its market-oriented economic system, pattern of production, and affluent living standards. Since World War II, the impressive growth of the manufacturing, mining, and service sectors has transformed the nation from a largely rural economy into one primarily industrial and urban. The 1989 US-Canada Free Trade Agreement (FTA) and the 1994 North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) (which includes Mexico) touched off a dramatic increase in trade and economic integration with the US, its principal trading partner. Canada enjoys a substantial trade surplus with the US, which absorbs nearly 80% of Canadian exports each year. Canada is the US's largest foreign supplier of energy, including oil, gas, uranium, and electric power. Given its great natural resources, skilled labor force, and modern capital plant, Canada enjoyed solid economic growth from 1993 through 2007. Buffeted by the global economic crisis, the economy dropped into a sharp recession in the final months of 2008, and Ottawa posted its first fiscal deficit in 2009 after 12 years of surplus. Canada's major banks, however, emerged from the financial crisis of 2008-09 among the strongest in the world, owing to the country's tradition of conservative lending practices and strong capitalization.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ca.html
So, here's my plan:
1) Stay in Canada, because this socialism/national healthcare plan combination seems to be a goldmine ! Who knew ? (Shhh...be wery wery quiet...there's awot of wight wing Wepubwicans awound here.)
2) Continue to avoid watching FOX "news" at all costs
3) Continue to believe more in America, it's people, and it's potential than some down there seem to. | |
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| What is your personal backup plan? Posted: 3/4/2010 11:44:18 PM | So do we build some kind of Canadian statue of Liberty, MG?
"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses, yearning to be free..."
Wow...that sounds awful "PROGRESSIVE!" *dun dun dunnnnn*
Yeah that sounds like us Canadians...
Or should we build some toll roads? With no fuel to run the disbanded, unpaid army, as we'll have shut off the taps by then and the Arabs will have gone to the Euro standard (and we'll have sensibly dealt with it instead of threatening them militarily) I don't think we'll have much to fear from this "Left Behind" scenario of doom from the South...
Let's start making some care packages of toothbrushes, deodorant, and perhaps tinned food and maple syrup for our poor doomed neighbours. As a confirmed godless pagan, I would be happy to look after the pets of any that may be missing and presumed "raptured."
I like your plan...especially point 3. But I will continue to keep an eye on Fox. Know your enemy and their moves ahead of time...but only in small, non-vomit inducing doses. | |
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| What is your personal backup plan? Posted: 3/5/2010 3:06:57 AM | Right now a bill is being introduced to repeal the Clinton era NAFTA agreement. (God I hope that actually happens!)
Wonder how out friends to the north would feel about that?..
http://www.thestreet.com/story/10695863/hoffa-applauds-move-to-repeal-nafta.html | |
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