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 mungojoe
Joined: 11/15/2006
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Foreign Aid comes to 'cash-strapped' America...



Canada offers Michigan $550M loan for bridge
Last Updated: Thursday, April 29, 2010 | 5:40 PM ET
CBC News

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/windsor/story/2010/04/29/wdr-bridge-canada-border-money-100429.html

It seems that the gov't of Canada has offered the State of Michigan over 1/2 billion dollars to help pay for any of Michigan's 'out of pocket' infrastructure expenses associated with the new bridge that aren't covered by the US gov't or private partnership...

Who da thunk it...?
 NowSucksLess
Joined: 2/4/2010
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Posted: 4/30/2010 5:34:12 PM
A bridge...to Detroit!?!
 mungojoe
Joined: 11/15/2006
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Posted: 4/30/2010 6:15:13 PM
A bridge...to Detroit!?!

More accurately... A bridge that will relieve backlog at a crossing that:

1) supports $13 billion dollars in regional production

2) carries 25% of all trade volume with the US's single largest trading partner... a volume, over JUST ONE CROSSING, equal to the total US-Japan trade volume... a trading relationship worth 1/2 TRILLION $ in combined imports/exports and over 7 MILLION jobs throughout every state (the top 4 in order are CA, TX, NY, FL)

3) carries imports/exports, supports jobs and industry vital to US economic recovery
 Montreal_Guy
Joined: 3/8/2004
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Posted: 4/30/2010 10:03:33 PM
Makes perfect sense, as the benefits both countries, in my opinion.

It shouldn't be that hard to make up over time, if it makes it more convenient. That's not a cost, it's an investment.
 stnick1967
Joined: 12/15/2008
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Posted: 5/2/2010 7:59:49 AM

"This is the most, not one of the most, this is the most important infrastructure project across Canada today and is one of the most important in our history," Baird said.


While this project might be the "most important" and "one of the most important" in Canada's history, it clearly is not seen as vital to the US economy. President Obama would certainly earmark funding for thisd project it were.

Keep in mind that there are already brigdges in the area. It's not as if the Canucks are having to throw their goods over to Detroit.
 mungojoe
Joined: 11/15/2006
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Posted: 5/2/2010 12:59:37 PM

While this project might be the "most important" and "one of the most important" in Canada's history, it clearly is not seen as vital to the US economy. President Obama would certainly earmark funding for thisd project it were.

Well now, that's just silly... The US fed's are ALREADY on board and commited to the projext to the full extent allowable under federal jurisdiction... At this point, Michigan jurisdiction (and mainly budget) is the sticking point... Michigan law doesn't (currently) address the 'partnershiping' elements preferred by the US and Candian federal gov't's and that (along with state funding) is where the issue lies...

Current restrictions governing federal/State jurisdiction (that would be the whole "States' Rights" issue that some are so very concerned about) place the remaining decision ENTIRELY within the hands of the Michigan legislature...

Can you imagine the hulla-ba-loo that would be raised by certain elements opposing EVERYTHING the Obama admin does if they were to either "usurp" or "bribe/blackmail" a State legislature to push the project forward...? The US fed's are in a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" position here... If they push forward into Michigan jurisdiction they are at best "bribing/blackmailing" and at worst "usurping States' rights"... and, if the project fails because of certain elements playing the "Just Say No" game prevent it then they are "ignoring the economy" by NOT stepping in beyond their jurisdiction...

Keep in mind that there are already brigdges in the area. It's not as if the Canucks are having to throw their goods over to Detroit.

You may want to talk to the various 'players' in the US import/export end of business (like the US truckers) about that one... They are among the biggest supporters and see it as absolutely necessary for the growth and development of both the industries involved and the economy in general...
 NoBushLover
Joined: 1/27/2009
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Posted: 5/6/2010 5:29:29 AM
^^I am never surprised at how the objections of conservatives are always based on untruths. They are "always certain, never right"

Even thought he know NOTHING about the issue, conservatives hatred will force them to believe that it's a "bridge to nowhere" even though the conservatives don't even know about thin bridge, and they will claim the federal govt doesn't support the project, even though it does.

Nothing is too delusional for a conservative to believe. That's because they have no ideas, no beliefs, no principles, and no moral center. They will say anything so long as it is convenient at the moment.
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