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 PittsburghVixen
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Part 1 of the three-part movie version of Atlas Shrugged is being released in a limited number of cities on April 15. The trailer and selected scenes are available online. It does not have any big name stars, which I think is better since we can view the characters more as themselves than as Big-Star-Playing-Character. Thankfully IMO, neither Brad Pitt nor Angelina Jolie have anything to do with the production.

I am looking forward to seeing it and hope it comes to my city. There is a "Demand!" button on the movie's website that allows fans to request that it be shown in their area.

Since it took fifty years to make this movie, the book has been updated from the late 1950s to 2016. I don't expect that this will be a huge commercial success, but am eager to see the results of the project.
 Appreciative9809
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Posted: 3/12/2011 1:16:08 PM
Making a movie take place in the future invites errors regarding technology, dress-styles, etc.

There'd be nothing wrong with setting the movie in 1950, other than that it would cost a little more to show the 1950 authentically. But at least it would be possible.

The cheaper way would be to set the movie in the year when the screenplay is written.

The best way of all would be to set the movie in the same year when the book is set, because, only then would it really be the same story.

Let us know when you hear of the movie arriving at theaters.
 PittsburghVixen
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Posted: 3/12/2011 5:14:07 PM
I believe the reason they updated it was because so much of what Rand wrote about is coming true all around us.

The movie will be in theaters April 15 - just not everywhere.
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Posted: 3/12/2011 5:18:11 PM
Right on ... I look forward to seeing it.

That would be great to take my son out with me as he loved the audio.

Hmmm ... nice birthday present for me.
 CMonster
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Posted: 3/12/2011 11:04:18 PM
I believe the reason they updated it was because so much of what Rand wrote about is coming true all around us.

Rand said that the book "takes place the day after tomorrow" which lends itself to what could happen if the things happening today run amok. Even though the premise of the book has been a part of US history many years prior to publication, making the movie a period piece would alienate the masses and only appease the loyalist. Plus putting it in the future shows how timelessness of the premise.

The movie will be in theaters April 15 - just not everywhere.

So far it's slated for selected theaters in California, Colorado, Florida, Illinois,New York and Texas.
 arwen52
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Posted: 3/13/2011 6:25:51 PM
I've never read any of Ayn Rand's writing novels. Is it true that there are no children in them?
 PittsburghVixen
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Posted: 3/13/2011 6:37:31 PM
Some of the adults in Atlas Shrugged and The Fountainhead are briefly portrayed during their childhoods in order to develop the characters' histories. In Atlas Shrugged, there are two children in the Galt's Gulch passages and Rand describes how they are growing up as inquisitive, free and unafraid to explore and discover their world, as she felt they should.

I don't recall children in We the Living or Anthem. The themes of her books deal with politics and philosophy so they really aren't geared for children's characters to advance the plots.
 arwen52
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Posted: 3/14/2011 9:19:56 PM
Well, a friend who read her novels told me he noticed an absence of children. He seemed to think this significant, perhaps because for him they represent a segment of the population that is weak, vulnerable, and needs protection.
 PittsburghVixen
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Posted: 3/14/2011 9:57:05 PM
I don't see it as a significant issue - there isn't really a place for them in the plots, other than what I mentioned. If the major characters had children, there would be too much distraction from the plot lines.

Many major novels are "populated" only by adults, especially if they deal with very adult subjects. Even in LOTR, which many (older) children read, there were no child characters that I can recall, save one - the young son of the captain of the guard in Minas Tirith, who comes to fetch Pippin and take him to the armory to outfit him for his service to Denethor. Same deal with "The Girl Who..." series which I have recently read and loved - kids just don't fit into those plots.
 Cdn_Iceman
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Posted: 3/16/2011 11:48:52 AM
I would love to see the movie, Ive read the book and Fountain head ( the movie version of fountain head sucked)

Its One of my favorite books "Atlas shrugged" and "the Fountain head", Truly believe in her philosophy.
 Paul K
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Posted: 3/16/2011 12:30:59 PM
I remember reading the book in college, and was amazed at some of the things she wrote in it. I also remember that the book was generally panned by those "in the know", most of whom I am certain would vehemently disagree with her philosophy, yet it sold rather well..............

What does that tell you...........

I am looking forward to seeing the movie, and even moreso to see what type of reviews it gets. I will bet big bucks that it is panned, and called a radical departure from reality, and pure fantasy, yet I am also certain that it will strike a chord with people who are seeing their hard work valued less and less, and a trend to looking to "papa govt" for all things................... This will be like the book, panned by the "experts", and well recieved by the public.

IMHO

Paul K
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Posted: 3/16/2011 12:47:21 PM
There is a good trailer that can be viewed at:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W07bFa4TzM

Hopefully it is playing in Canada.

If not, I know where I will be going when I am down visiting my kids in the States.
 CMonster
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Posted: 3/16/2011 4:04:24 PM
This will be like the book, panned by the "experts", and well recieved by the public.

That's a bit optimistic. I agree that it'll be panned by most critics and I bet the loyalist will be least critical group. There's going to be a bit of nitpicking about the updated dialog and setting.

The most vocal will be the those who profess to understand the philosophy but have never read the book. They'll be the ones who'll use the movie as proof that the people who run companies are evil for wanting to make huge profits despite the fact that they earned it through their own efforts.

Personally, I'm looking forward to actually seeing who shows up to the premier in my city (if it makes it here). We'd give each other a quiet nod and a smile while preparing for the fallout from the critics and the general public.
 Paul K
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Posted: 3/16/2011 4:20:26 PM
^^^^^^

Do you really think that the powers that be will actually allow "Atlas Shrugged" to be shown in the peoples republic of Minnesota?

Stay in touch, I will send you a DVD as soon as they are available..............

Paul K
 arwen52
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Posted: 3/16/2011 10:45:12 PM

I don't see it as a significant issue - there isn't really a place for them in the plots, other than what I mentioned. If the major characters had children, there would be too much distraction from the plot lines.

Not having read any of Rand's books, I wouldn't know this. But if the point (correct me if I'm mistaken) of the novels are to present a view of how society ought to function, then not having children in them would be a significant omission. Is she not a proponent of what people describe as social Darwinism? And if so, where do the weak and vulnerable fit in - children, the elderly, the physically and mentally handicapped, etc. I think that was his point. Excuse me if I'm totally ignorant.
 Paul K
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Posted: 3/17/2011 12:08:02 PM
Ayn Rand was a proponet of private enterprise not being controlled by govt., and allowed to do and accomplish. It actually makes very good reading once you have lived life and experienced the frustrations of an overbearing govt. If you read the book, Atlas Shrugged, you will recognize characters in the book that are around in the present day, even though it was written many years ago.

Its not so much that she was a prophet of the future, but she was precient enough to see trends that were taking the US in a direction that would take the US down to the level of other socialist countries such as the Soviet Union of the time, and China and the Eastern bloc sountries.

Read the book, then the movie will be a very enjoyable experience, as you will recognize aspects of it on the screen.

Paul K
 CMonster
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Posted: 3/17/2011 2:34:20 PM

Do you really think that the powers that be will actually allow "Atlas Shrugged" to be shown in the peoples republic of Minnesota?

I know, I know; when goats fly... (haha).

Stay in touch, I will send you a DVD as soon as they are available..............

Hopefully they'll release the director's cut.
 HalftimeDad
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Posted: 3/17/2011 3:05:12 PM

I remember reading the book in college, and was amazed at some of the things she wrote in it. I also remember that the book was generally panned by those "in the know", most of whom I am certain would vehemently disagree with her philosophy, yet it sold rather well..............

What does that tell you...........

The worst book I've ever finished was the The DaVinci Code. The characters would have needed considerable fleshing out to be 2 dimensional; the plotline could be seen from the first 50 pages if you ever saw a season of Murder She Wrote; the whole "conspiracy" comes out of a long running con game concocted by a Frenchman in the 50's. Yet it dominated the Bestseller lists for years, and millions of people think it's basis is true.

Being able to sell books is hardly indicative of having something of substance.

I've never read her books, but I am familiar with her philosophy. I'm sure the books are good; the philosophy is rubbish.
 Paul K
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Posted: 3/17/2011 3:46:40 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Paul K Shrugged

As far as your opinion of the philosophy that is central to her book, Atlas Shrugged, I am not surprised, considering what you have written in the past. Do you think that the opposite of what she espouses is the correct way?

Paul K
 HalftimeDad
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Posted: 3/17/2011 4:02:45 PM
Absolutely not!

This is an over simplification, but here goes. Marx saw the evils of Industrial Age capitalism and thought the opposite must be the ultimate good. Rand saw the evils of collectivism and thought the opposite must be the ultimate good. I can understand why they both came to the conclusions they came to, but they were both wrong.

Unfortunately both felt compelled to try to justify their own beliefs by saying that this was inevitable because of the forces of history and human nature. Again, both were wrong.
 Paul K
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Posted: 3/17/2011 5:02:07 PM
^^^^

The differences between the two, that being marx and Rand, are that what marx espoused never had any chance at all of happening, UNLESS, it was implemented via hardship, countless deaths to enforce what he thought was going to be a utopia, and then only able to be enforced through more repressive tactics. What Rand saw was that marx's vision was on the way to be implemented, via force and totalitarian tactics, and that the strides made by freedom was in jeapordy of being swallowed up.

The difference between the two is so stark and obvious that it almost does not need to be said. What Rand espoused was freedom for business to thrive. Take the two biggest entities in Atlas Shrugged, the steel company and the railroad company......... Who was trying to corral them? Why no less than the over-reaching, tyrannical govt........ Why is it that in order for marx to be right, that force and tyrannical methods have to be used, and for the govt to gain the control it wants, it requires that force and tyrannical methods be used? Is that just a coincidence? Nope.

I believe that where you are wrong is that marx is wrong from start to finish, and that you are mixing up what Rand ultimately wants with what I call "modern day money changers". These "modern day money changers" have NOTHING to do with capitalism, BUT they are always lumped in the same pot because they both deal with money. If I was in charge, the financial meltdown would have never happened, for two reasons.... ONE, because I would limit purchase of stocks to what money you have....... THATS IT. NO purchase on margin...... NONE. TWO. I would have made certain that the RE lenders only made loans that they could show had an actual chance of getting paid back. THAT would have seen to it that all of the loans that were made in the guise of "getting first time buyers and affordable housing" would have never been made, so there would not have been a problem.

The problem is that everybody mixes up those who make the money with those who play with it, and they are two totally separate entities.

I am John Galt. Do you know what that means?

Paul K
 PittsburghVixen
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Posted: 3/17/2011 5:32:55 PM
@arwen52: If your friend believes that because the plot line of Atlas Shrugged did not include children, the elderly or disabled folks, therefore Rand was a proponent of social Darwinism - he is missing the point of the book. There's no place for the plot line to take a detour of that sort. However, if you care to find out more, there is a lot of material online, particularly from the Ayn Rand Institute, outlining her philosophy of Objectivism, commentaries on current events and how her ideas would apply to modern life.

If you haven't read any of her work, you're excused for asking the question ;) but to find out more, go to the source - don't take your friend's word for it, NOR mine. Happy reading!
 Paul K
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Posted: 3/17/2011 5:41:34 PM
Hey arwen

Although on occasion wikipedia gets a little "fluffy", their write up about Rand is actually pretty objective. I went to it to see if I remembered what I had read so many years ago, and most if it came back. It doesn't take long to read, and has some very good backround material, such as her youth, education, and how she came to write what she did. I am sure there are somethings that are left out, it is wiki of course, but basically is all there.

The theatrical trailer is pretty good, but really doesn 't give much of an idea of what Rand is all about, and I think the same will be true until you see all three parts.

I get the feeling that this is one movie that will be protested, and won't even be shown in some places............................

Paul K
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Posted: 3/17/2011 6:33:49 PM
I, too, look forward to seeing all of this film. Let's remember well made films get praised, and theyre not books--that's a different medium with its own unique processes and wands. Beware though the screenplay isnt Rand's, but is it true that Jon Hamm is in the role of championing do-gooder?

Regards -- Nelson
 PittsburghVixen
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Posted: 3/17/2011 7:05:49 PM
@nelsoncohen, Jon Hamm's not in the movie at all.

The guy who runs the Ayn Rand Institute said that he thought they did a pretty good job of sticking to the book, insofar as any movie could. He also said that he thought it would be impossible to do a really superb job at filming the book no matter who the director and actors were and how much was spent on it.

Heck, it took "only" 50+ years to make this happen :P
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