| Principal ordered Bush portrait removed from class
Posted: 7/22/2005 3:02:03 PM | In a federal discrimination lawsuit, Jillian Caruso, 26, claims that she was improperly forced to resign her job by Birch Lane Elementary School principal Joyce Becker-Seddio, the wife of state Assemblyman Frank Seddio, a Brooklyn Democrat.
In her U.S. District Court complaint, a copy of which you'll find below, Caruso contends that she was retaliated against by Becker-Seddio because of her political work, which has included volunteering at last year's GOP convention and membership in the Republican National Committee.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0721053bush1.html
No one knows if the picture of Bush was removed so that it could be replaced with a picture of Jesus. | |
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| Principal ordered Bush portrait removed from class
Posted: 7/22/2005 5:38:48 PM | Thank God principal Joyce Becker-Seddio had enough good sense and decency to remove such filth from the children's classroom ...hopefully the portrait was burned.
America doesn't need an icon of a lying murderer presented to impressionable young kids.
...and in response to your speculation about the picture being replaced with one of Jesus, I'd say His image would serve very appropriately.
Got a problem with Jesus do you?
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| Principal ordered Bush portrait removed from class
Posted: 7/22/2005 7:15:43 PM | Perhaps people were missing the point of my post. Here you have the Public School system having the Leader of the Government, which the schools are run by, having to remove the very person that is in charge of the Government.
The point about Jesus was merely hyperbole.
"when the principal spotted the Bush portrait late last year--it was hanging among photos of other U.S. presidents--she "became outraged and insisted that the picture be removed"
Just a slight conflict of interest, not to mention a clear biased. Seems to be okay when its the other side of the aisle. | |
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| Principal ordered Bush portrait removed from class
Posted: 7/22/2005 7:23:39 PM | | This just goes to show how divided the U.S. has become since the war on terror was started,when many people would try to have you believe that everyone has pulled together.Clearly this is'nt the case. | |
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| Principal ordered Bush portrait removed from class
Posted: 7/22/2005 7:34:18 PM | Bush is not respected as president. He and the republicans have brought the country WAY down. Both elections were very questionable and the US is not being followed as a world leader anymore. It's more like the world cringes in fear of us and despises him.
He's nobody to be respected. His grandfather was one of the many people who started the second world war two and helped the Nazis.
He lied to start a war and he's ruining the US military.
How can you respect someone like that? | |
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| Principal ordered Bush portrait removed from class
Posted: 7/22/2005 7:56:18 PM | | I don't much like or respect Bush, but he is the President (regardless of what Al Gore thinks) and there's no reason why his picture shouldn't appear with the pictures of other presidents. | |
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| Principal ordered Bush portrait removed from class
Posted: 7/22/2005 8:00:16 PM | You’re certainly not speaking for the all the American people must less the world. The elections weren’t questionable, some people where just questioning them, just like skeptics and sore losers do. JFK started the conflict in Vietnam and LFB perpetuated it, there were plenty of people that had ties to the Nazi’s. Bush told the American people exactly what he was going to do, the congress supported him. He presented his plans to the UN and then gave Saddam 48 hours to step down.
How can you respect someone who is speaking in generalities to suit their personal opinion so as to gain leverage to their agenda? | |
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| And of course you respect...
Posted: 7/22/2005 8:53:14 PM | people who drown (pregnant?) girls half their age and then use their authority in Massachussets to have records sealed so their crime will never be discovered--or others who let interns blow them in the oval office. Or those who go on TV and Radio and wishes someone (Clarence Thomas) to die because he doesn't agree with her politics. Or former White House advisors who somehow get secret documents they aren't entitled to remove entangled in their trousers...
I can't wait till Bush gets a chance to replace maybe yet another lib after O'Connor on the court and the whole filthy abomination of Roe-v Wade comes tumbling down... | |
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| Principal ordered Bush portrait removed from class
Posted: 7/22/2005 8:53:30 PM |
JFK started the conflict in Vietnam No. Eisenhower did. From: http://servercc.oakton.edu/~wittman/chronol.htm October 24, 1954 President Dwight D. Eisenhower pledges support to Diem's government and military forces. 1955 The U.S.-backed Ngo Dinh Diem organizes the Republic of Vietnam as an independent nation; declares himself president. 1956 Fighting begins between the North and the South. July 8, 1959 The first American combat deaths in Vietnam occur when Viet Cong attack Bien Hoa billets; two servicemen are killed.
and LFB perpetuated it, there were plenty of people that had ties to the Nazi’s.
Most people didn't give Hitler millions of dollars...or sell ammo, oil and ammo to both sides all through the war. you're just making excuses to defend bush. He can do nothing wrong as far as you're concerned. The rest of us don't see it that way.
Bush told the American people exactly what he was going to do, the congress supported him. He presented his plans to the UN and then gave Saddam 48 hours to step down.
and he lied for congressional support.... and went in without UN support. No... Bush is a very bad president. Everyone's realizing it. | |
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| Principal ordered Bush portrait removed from class
Posted: 7/22/2005 9:19:15 PM | It’s fascinating to watch a leftist paint with such a broad brush instead of sticking with what is being presented on a topic.
JFK and LBJ aren’t innocent by standards of the Eisenhower administration, on a side note I actually spoke with Eisenhower’s secretary on Monday, she’s in her 80’s and heads up the VFW here in Atlanta.
JFK and LBJ could have easily removed the advisors out of Vietnam and closed shop. What a stark contrast, the French were still providing Saddam with military support up to two weeks before the invasion.
I’m not sure why you are having so much difficulty with understanding what the President said to congress, he’s repeated it several times, unless you think you know more than the US Congress does and are more capable than the US Congress. | |
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| Principal ordered Bush portrait removed from class
Posted: 7/23/2005 8:24:58 AM |
You’re right and we can clearly see which side is instigating the division. Buzzweaver, you had me until this comment. When you patiently explained your "point of the post" to the person who said the picture should be burned, i was with you. It seemed reasonable. However, statements like this are really no better than saying that Bush's portrait is "filth." Why can't EITHER side be reasonable? Seriously.
This suit is outrageous, though (I don't mean outrageous as in unjustified; I mean outrageous as in unbelievable if the complaint is the whole truth.) It will be interesting to see what happens. Does anyone know if thesmokinggun.com will post further information? (like the answer, etc?) | |
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| Principal ordered Bush portrait removed from class
Posted: 7/23/2005 8:56:26 AM | Read thru all documentation at link posted. Noticed that the complaint referrred to PICTURES (PLURAL) as in MORE THAN ONE, NOT a single picture! Is is also noted in complaint that the teacher's employment was PROBATIONARY. (Makes one wonder if there is MORE to this than what is posted so far?) And some complain about liberals reacting emotionally, instead of examing the issue! | |
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| Principal ordered Bush portrait removed from class
Posted: 7/23/2005 8:58:09 AM | Probationary often means (for a teacher ) that she just doesn't have tenure yet. And I must say, yours is an emotional response, and you don't even KNOW all the facts to examine the issue! lol
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| Principal ordered Bush portrait removed from class
Posted: 7/23/2005 9:00:42 AM | This just goes to show how divided the U.S. has become since the war on terror was started
Advantage...."Al Qaeda"
You’re right and we can clearly see which side is instigating the division.
You mean AL Qaeda right? Because, if not, they get another point as well.
"sides"= division. (solve the problem instead of fighting to not fight)
I don't much like or respect Bush, but he is the President (regardless of what Al Gore thinks) and there's no reason why his picture shouldn't appear with the pictures of other presidents
Very much agreed.
The elections weren’t questionable, some people where just questioning them,
Funniest statement of the week. lmfao..GOOD "BUSHISM" THERE MY FRIEND!!!
How can you respect someone who is speaking in generalities to suit their personal opinion so as to gain leverage
You respect them enough to realize the power "leverage" brings. That's like saying how do you respect someone who has your own leg wrapped around your head..um....it should be obvious?
A Chinese guy at my locval mart once told me
"He who run straight into fight get punched straight into nose" while "He who move in slow...start to see his weakness..start to see his strength...and still move forward...no?"
It’s fascinating to watch a leftist
P.S. Advantage Al Qaeda.
U.m....are you NOT all Americans!! GEEZ DUDE; when you hang with all rightists do you then make distinctions such as "fuinny to see a blonde say", or "funny to see a bigman say" so as to divide in there as well? Can you not SEE how deeply divided you've become!?? YOu Are WEAKENING EACHOTHER DOWN THERE DUDE!! (maybe focus on the enemy?)
I know it is none of my business really..but..I can nonly take so much pathos...ya know? | |
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| Principal ordered Bush portrait removed from class
Posted: 7/23/2005 9:26:16 AM | Good lord above, it never ceases to amaze me the mountains some folks down in the U.S. want to make from every molehill.
Folks...this is one those marvellous 'who gives a sh!t' stories that ought to have about as much time spent worrying about it as you do about whether McDeath is going to come out with a new size of M&M McFlurrie.
I mean, I'm no fan of Georgie W., and when it comes right down to it, any educator who is a fan of him or his policies regarding the school system is probably identifying themselves as grossly unsuitable to be teaching your nation's children, but the amount of hand wringing about how much your head of state is evoked by the teacher is a waste of time akin to wondering exactly how much Madonna is involved with global poverty after the Live 8 concert (answer: depends if it will get her publicity or not).
Listen. There are important issues going on right now in your country, domestically and abroad. The issue of how much funding is tied to performance of a school in standardized tests is one that is currently on the books and getting revisited every budget. This policy, as one example, is loaded to give more funding to schools that are doing okay (ie. rich white neighbourhood suburban schools) and end up cutting funding to schools that need more support (ie. inner-city schools with predominantly non-white students). If you think the issue of the president's picture and so on in a classroom even comes close to comparing in importance to just this ONE issue, you need to get some remedial studying in yourself.
Let's be clear. It is sad to see that a teacher would support a president who supports programs that are not going to benefit the children who need it most. It's sad that you have a president who likely couldn't score higher on the tests taken by the children who stare at his picture in their elementary school classrooms. It's very, very sad.
And so this issue ought to be given thought only after the more important ones are dealt with.
Which, at the current pace of change in the U.S. should occur sometime in the fall, 2088. | |
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| Principal ordered Bush portrait removed from class
Posted: 7/23/2005 2:48:42 PM |
JFK and LBJ could have easily removed the advisors out of Vietnam and closed shop.
More to the point: YOU SAID that JFK "Started the conflict in Viet Nam". These were your words. Again, they're not true. Eisenhower was the first American president to commit to Viet Nam AND Kennedy didn't start it. That's two points wrong... with only one statement...
So I'm not supposed to mention that? | |
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| Principal ordered Bush portrait removed from class
Posted: 7/23/2005 3:14:28 PM |
Let's be clear. It is sad to see that a teacher would support a president who supports programs that are not going to benefit the children who need it most. It's sad that you have a president who likely couldn't score higher on the tests taken by the children who stare at his picture in their elementary school classrooms. It's very, very sad.
And so this issue ought to be given thought only after the more important ones are dealt with.
Which, at the current pace of change in the U.S. should occur sometime in the fall, 2088. Woodrow, maybe you're misunderstanding (at least some of) the intentions here. Some of us are interested in what is happening in the legal system because those decisions have an impact and, well, because we're interested. I'm not sure what your point was, but relax. We're not here to lament the teacher's choices, and we're not here to insult the president (regardless of whether we support him or not.) We're just here to follow the suit. If that's still a problem for you, the good news is that it doesn't matter! 
I'm not sure how you live your life, but if you have light discussions "only after the more important ones are dealt with," that's a little heavy.  | |
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| Principal ordered Bush portrait removed from class
Posted: 7/24/2005 11:07:28 AM |
Let's be clear. It is sad to see that a teacher would support a president who supports programs that are not going to benefit the children who need it most.
As an American and a parent of three kids, I strongly concur with and support Woodrow's observation here.
Bush is a disgrace in so many ways...
I can't support him as president and he's poison to the whole American system.... | |
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| Principal ordered Bush portrait removed from class
Posted: 7/30/2005 7:55:45 AM | | I don't see this as a "Bush" issue; I'm surprised so many do. If it's a "Bush" issue, then presumably opinions on what happened might change if it was a different president involved. Hmm. | |
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