| | The San Francisco Forty NinersPage 1 of 5 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5) | After many years the 9’ers time has come to shine again.
Football fans on here undoubtedly have all the necessary wisdom to decipher the stats and talents. I’ll try and convey some of the more obscure details.
> Alex Smith was chosen over Aaron Rodgers in the first overall pick (possibly due to ego conflicts with Rogers and the then head coach).
> He struggled with injuries and having to deal with a different offensive coordinator practically every year under the defense oriented 9'er coaching staff (Singletary for one).
> Ex QB Harbaugh comes in as the offensive guru.With a solid defense already in place it's just what the team needed.
> Not sure if Harbaugh saw something in Smith or just needed to work with what he had but Coach believed in him when no one else did from day one - again just what the team needed.
> Smith gets a premiere wide receiver in Crabtree, something else that had been missing.
> Harbaugh emphasizes downfield blocking from his wide receivers and focuses on the training thereof, something WR's typically shy away from. It's poetry in motion to watch 9'er wideouts leveling the defense downfield after the pass is thrown to their teamates.
Possibly the greatest HOF power runningback of all time Joe Perry passed away recently and holds the record for most yardage. He actually should be credited for more yards because he played some games with the American Football League before the merge and the numbers are not included in NFL stats .
>Frank Gore surpasses the great Roger Craig in rushing yardage and will break Perry's all time 49'er record next game.This being accomplished while the team was on a 7 year losing record.
Gore left, Gore middle or Gore right seemed about the best chances the Niners had in many games over the last seven years. Defenses knew it, and yet so many times he prevailed.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/942792-ranking-frank-gores-10-best-performances-of-his-career
With an easy remaining schedule the 9'ers are a shoe in for the post season with one challenging game against Pittsburgh but I like the fact that it should keep them sharp down the stretch. | |
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Posted: 11/28/2011 8:26:22 PM | Jim Harbaughs a good coach but I wouldnt be salivating quite yet Baltimore made Smith come down to earth and being in the west division is a joke.
I dont see the 49ers winning any games in the playoffs nor do I see anything in Smith that Harbaugh is crazy about. Thats the very reason the 49ners drafted a qb in last years draft as high as they did.
Having an easy schedule does everthing BUT keep you sharp!!!! you have to compete with better teams to build up some confidence. Beating easy teams gives you nothing but false hope.
They have a good team but are still a few years away from doing much of anything in the playoffs. | |
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Posted: 11/29/2011 1:51:47 PM |
being in the west division is a joke.
The Niners beat everyone in your division accept for an overtime squeeker against the Girls. What does that say about your division? Hahahahaha I guess you're saying that the Girls haven't played any tough competition either since the Niners can beat the majority of that division. | |
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Posted: 11/29/2011 6:18:19 PM | I'll rephrase.
What I said was the easy remaining schedule will assure them a slot in the playoffs.
Easy with the exception of the Steeler game in three weeks that they need to prepare for and hopefully win, the focus of which will keep them sharp for the remaining of the season. The other games are the Rams twice, Seattle and Phoenix which they should be able to win relatively easy and rest some of their starters in the last two but they'll be tested in the Pittsburg game, 2 games out from seasons end which will keep their mindset sharp so as not to get lack luster as they might for the other games. The best scenario they could hope for with 5 games left imo.
I'm not regarding them as the dynasty team of the eighties but from what I've seen they have just as good a chance as anybody to win the Super Bowl. | |
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Posted: 11/29/2011 7:53:22 PM | | The Saints are only one game behind the Niners. If they lose to the Steelers, it's not likely they'll get to rest their starters. I know the competition isn't too tough, but they are division teams who've prepared themselves for the Niners a little more than the rest of their opponents. | |
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Posted: 11/29/2011 11:33:19 PM | being in the west division is a joke.
Skoochie it nevers fails your always putting words in my mouth!!!
Where did I mention the Cowboys or the NFC East Division.
In fact I dont expect the Cowboys to go far even if they make the playoffs them selves.
I simply stated the Rams , Cardinals or the Sh!thawks dont make good competition (nor do any weak teams) in preparing for the playoffs and that Smith is hardly a franchise QB.
Maybe your still hurting over last years upset of your Saints by Seattle as funny as that was. Or maybe its the fact you live in San Fransico and are to ashamed to admit it.
You've already proven you'll argue with everyone in this forum (calvin Johnson) so nothing you say suprises me. Your a waste of breath
Neither the Cowboys or 49ers match up well with the better teams in the NFC although anything can happen I just wouldnt bet on it. | |
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Posted: 11/30/2011 12:44:05 AM |
Or maybe its the fact you live in San Fransico and are to ashamed to admit it.
You've already proven you'll argue with everyone in this forum (calvin Johnson) so nothing you say suprises me. Your a waste of breath
I'll argue with you because your opinions are lame. It clearly says on my profile where I live and you say something so juvenile and simple minded as suggesting I live in San Francisco. It doesn't take a brain to argue with you because you're just lame.
I'll argue with anyone who says Johnson is a "God amongst boys." That was an assinine statement then and you were just as lame to defend that statement. I'll argue with anyone who say Tebow is the best qb in the league. Other than that, I don't do much arguing other than with you, and you don't qualify as "everyone in this forum". Get over yourself.
You were clearly saying that there is no competition in the Niners division to challenge them. I just pointed out that there isn't much competition in your division to challenge them either. Sorry if that got your panties in a knot. That wasn't "arguing". That was all out trying to insult your team's division. You should look into the difference.
Why are you so infatuated with people living in San Francisco? Hahahaha | |
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Posted: 11/30/2011 3:15:59 AM | To Skoochie
To Skoochie
(Panties in a knot, tiffy )
Trust me I'm not infatuated with your city or the way you talk you talk like a pansy and it just happens to fit with where you live
I'll argue with you because your opinions are lame. It clearly says on my profile where I live and you say something so juvenile and simple minded as suggesting I live in San Francisco. It doesn't take a brain to argue with you because you're just lame.
First off If your suggesting I look up your profile dont bother
I dont care to... 
So if I am lame to defend the fact that Calvin Johson is by far the better reciever then you include the approximately 20 others in here that tried to convince you that you were wrong . Not only those 20 but also Jerry Rice, whom I posted an article that it was his opinion that Calvin Johnson was the best reciever in the NFL, and you argued with that too.
Skoochie.... theres stubborn people then theres idiots... you qualify for the latter of the two.
I would suggest that the best reciever to ever play football in the world would hold just a little more water than you when it comes to opinions about recievers. Maybe you should get over yourself !!!!!!
I never have nor would claim to know more about football or its players than one of the best to ever play the game itself.
The fact that you are now telling me you were insulting the NFC east is also a joke. The west division is clearly the worst division in the NFC and it wasnt long ago that your division ( the south) wasnt much different so to insult the NFC east just goes to show how little you do know.
Theres a waste of space in here and its between your ears....
(Panties in a knot, tiffy ) LMAO you talk like a woman being from San Fran is only fitting thats all .
<div class="quote">I'll argue with you because your opinions are lame. It clearly says on my profile where I live and you say something so juvenile and simple minded as suggesting I live in San Francisco. It doesn't take a brain to argue with you because you're just lame.
First off If your suggesting I look up your profile dont bother
I dont care to...
So if I am lame to defend the fact that Calvin Johson is by far the better reciever then you include the approximately 20 others in here that tried to convince you that you were wrong . Not only those 20 but also Jerry Rice, whom I posted an article that it was his opinion that Calvin Johnson was the best reciever in the NFL, and you argued with that too.
Skoochie.... theres stubborn people then theres idiots... you qualify for the latter of the two.
I would suggest that the best reciever to ever play football in the world would hold just a little more water than you when it comes to opinions about recievers. Maybe you should get over yourself !!!!!!
I never have nor would claim to know more about football or its players than one of the best to ever play the game itself.
The fact that you are now telling me you were insulting the NFC east is also a joke. The west division is clearly the worst division in the NFC and it wasnt long ago that your division ( the south) wasnt much different so to insult the NFC east just goes to show how little you do know.
Theres a waste of space in here and its between your ears.... | |
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Posted: 11/30/2011 4:01:41 AM | A.Skoochie you argued with litterally "everyone in this forum" or at least that commented in the Megatron thread, dont say you only argue the whole "Megatron is a god amongst boys" part of it. Thats nonsense and absolutely not true. Everything you said in that post or at least 95% of it was incorrect nonsense... So much so its not even worth saying more than that about it, cuz everyone that read that thread already knows it.
B. You are trying to say that the competition in the NFC West is the same as in the NFC East!? NOOOO.. total nonsense again. Ya, SF beat the Giants Eagles and Redskins... but they beat them by a collective 16 pts total between all 3 games, meaning they were all close games decided by 7ish pts each VS. SF beating Seattle and Arizona by 16+ points EACH and will do so to the terrible Rams this weekend too. Thats a running team winning by such big margins too. Making such large score margins even more prominent. So its OBVIOUS the competition is better in the NFC East, no contest. I realize SF beat those 3/4 teams but that certainly doesnt make the competition in those 2 divisions on a level playing field, atttt all.
C. The real and definite reason the 49ers have the record they have is because they are using the unarguable number 1 best way to win football games. Playing great defense and running the ball. That, paired with the fact that they are the ONLY team in the NFC that does either of those 2 things at an above avg level and they are doing them both exceptionally. No one in the NFC but maybe the Falcons has the rush defense to stop the 9ers run game and only the Packers and Saints have the offense to put up more than 20 pts on them, or at least consistantly. The way they are playing on both sides of the ball is an absolute matchup nightmare for almost every team in the NFC and its working. If they had to face the run defenses + offenses in the AFC week in and week out, and in shitty weather all the time, they would be .500 if they were lucky. Ill say this tho.. only team in the NFC with a similar game is the Atlanta Falcons. If ( or should prob say when ) the Falcons get the wildcard and the 9ers get the 2nd seed and 1st round bye and they end up meeting in the 9ers first playoff game the 9ers WILL lose to them. No playoff wins. Remember that one.
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Posted: 11/30/2011 9:57:27 AM | BigNateC, very good post, IMO, and I agree with you whole heartedly.
And, it can't be said that the 49ers built up that 9-2 record by beating up on the weak NFC West, since they still have 4 games in division to play yet. | |
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Posted: 11/30/2011 11:48:22 AM | Re: 10 - C.
Yep good post. Though I say the 9ers win that one we have 6 weeks to wait for it. Wanting to get this thread out there since there wasn't one and now being opportune timing, thanks for getting it back on track.
One of many reasons for my being partial to the niners is my Dad played with Joe Perry at the college level (baseball/military). Another inconsequential motivational factor is this year wide receiver Williams went to my high school.
I took a few extended visits to the Bay Area wine country in the '81 - '85 era and experienced the electricity for the first time that a place like Green Bay must have all the time. It was at that time I had the first hand revelation that Joe Montana is the best that ever lived. Been a long dry spell but it's good for football that they are back in the hunt again.
Just a little history of why I like 'em. | |
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Posted: 11/30/2011 4:10:52 PM | I think it's hilarious that people who argued with me in the Megatron thread are in here whining that I was arguing. That's hypocrisy at it's best, especially win the two complaining butted in to an arguement I was having with someone else. It take two to argue right? You two started in with me right? Yeah, I thought so.
Then there's the lame hypocrite who exaggerates like a child. Lies like a lame. I never argued with you about Rice's comments, but your memory is very short, so I won't hold that against you. Another lie you continue with is that I live in SF. Nothing worse than a hypocritical liar. You lie and you argue and then act like you do neither. Get off your high horse. Rice may see Johnson as the best, but more players voted for A. Johnson for that accalade. They also voted Fitzgerald, Gonzalez and R. White as being better. But, you can have your one vote.
There, now I've argued your "Jerry Rice" arguement, liar.
Nate,
Other than acting like I was the only one arguing and not owning your part, that was a very informative post. Oh yeah, and calling my arguement that Welker has more yards and receptions than Johnson and the rest of the league "nonsense" is, well, nonsense. It's fact and you know it. My whole premise was to debunk that Johnson isn't making the other receivers look like "boys".
Hawaiian,
The reason I like the Saints is because my brother is a Niners fan. At the time, the Saints were in the Niners division and for the purpose of sibling rivalry, I wanted a team who would play (if that's what they called that) twice a year. That's how I became a Saints' fan.  | |
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Posted: 11/30/2011 6:43:09 PM | Right on right on.
When I was in the Bay area in the 80's I'd be in a coffee shop Monday morning and everyone would be saying "I can't wait until Sunday." And of course back then they would almost always win come Sunday, made for great fans.
This year still early with 5 games to play the playoff picture is almost set already so the anticipation is great for teams in the running and the losing teams can just give it up until next year so the possibilities are wide open. Watch and wait is the game. | |
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Posted: 11/30/2011 7:12:11 PM | | I'm still here in NorCal, and the fans are smiling again. It's nice to see after seeing them so down on the team; Alex Smith in particular. Like Tebow, it's amazing to see people change their tone about the QB real fast when the team starts to win. I still think they would be a much stronger contender if they had a QB with a higher football IQ. This is the first year I've actually seen him look for other reads rather than watching his "hot read" the whole play. | |
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Posted: 12/2/2011 9:35:12 PM | | The 9ers haven't given up a rushing touchdown yet. Something to keep an eye on. The last team that never did in a season was the 1928 Providence Steam Rollers. Sports writers can't figure but insiders know. Their names are NaVorro Bowman and Patrick Willis, two of the best ilb's in the league. | |
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Posted: 12/5/2011 12:09:32 AM | Well this sucks -
SAN FRANCISCO—The 49ers defense had its first shutout of the season despite playing without Patrick Willis, the team’s top defender, for more than three quarters.
Willis was injured while attempting to tackle Rams fullback Brit Miller, who got past the inside linebacker for an 18-yard gain. The play left Willis lying on the Candlestick Park grass, and for several minutes concerned players—and even coach Jim Harbaugh—were huddled around him.
Willis, however, eventually was helped to his feet, and he walked off—gingerly—with what turned out to be a right hamstring strain. Willis stood on the sideline for the rest of the game and teammates said afterward they didn’t think the injury was serious. Coach Jim Harbaugh, however, said it would be “a couple of days” before the 49ers know the severity.
Read more: http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2011-12-05/san-francisco-49ers-patrick-willis-leaves-game-with-right-hamstring-strain#ixzz1fdcorO3T | |
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Posted: 12/6/2011 11:51:47 AM | After 75% of the regular season complete, the 9ers are sitting with the second best record in the NFL, behind the defending Superbowl Champion Green Bay Packers. They may be considered to be the surprise team (although the bigger surprise may be why they didn't perform last season) in the NFL this year. They are poised to post the 2nd best record in the NFC and receive a 1st round bye in the playoffs. They have allowest the fewest points in the league but rank only 4th in defense since that D ranking is based on yards allowed rather than points given up and may be the first team since the Providence Steamrollers to not allow a rushing touchdown in any regular season game.
But the question still remains, is this really the second best team in the NFL? I say no, and here's my reasoning as to why. If you look game by game, they have been very fortunate to have play some teams at just the right time, no fault of their doing, and have been able to take advantage of those circumstances. Let's look at a game by game breakdown.
1) gave up 17 points, at home, in beating T. Jackson in his debut with Seattle. On 12/24, we'll see if Jackson can do better in Seattle.
2) gave up 27 points, at home, in losing to Dallas.
3) gave up only 8 points on the road to rookie QB Dalton and the Bengals. Fortunate to catch Dalton early in the season.
4) gave up 23 points on the road to the "Dream Team" before the Eagles gave the game away in the 4th quarter.
5) only gave up 3 points at home to the Bucs, who have stumbled and taken a step backwards as a young and improving team. They also happened to catch the Bucs the week before the Bucs were scheduled to play the Saints. A game the Bucs won, which tells me that they were looking past the 49ers, and paid for their lack of attention.
6) gave up 19 points on the road in beating the Lions, perhaps their most impressive win of the year.
7) gave up only 10 points at home to the Browns, but the Browns were without Madden coverboy Hillis.
8) gave up 11 points on the road to the Redskins, who had lost Hightower and who basically don't have a QB of note.
9) gave up 20 points at home to the Giants and on again, and this day off again Eli Manning.
10) gave up only 7 points at home to the Cards and their back-up QB Skelton. Not that Kolb would have fared better, but he did beat the Cowboys in the dessert and we'll see how that rematch goes this Sunday.
11) gave up only 16 points on the road in a loss to the Ravens, who have been schitzophrenic this year.
12) a shut out at home against the Rams and their back-up QB Feeley.
The yardstick game for the 49ers may be in week 15, at home, on 12/19, a Monday night (late afternoon in the Bay area) game against the Steelers.
I would rank the 49ers in the top 5 teams in the NFC and top 10 in the NFL, but #2 as they have been ranked in some of the "power rankings" that I've read. | |
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Posted: 12/6/2011 2:55:13 PM | The yardstick game for the 49ers may be in week 15, at home, on 12/19, a Monday night (late afternoon in the Bay area) game against the Steelers.
9ers have HF advantage which is typically better than HF on a regular Sunday game however it may be off set somewhat by the Steelers having a full 10 days rest late in the season after coming off a Thursday night game THIS week. The best part is I'll be able to watch it unfettered. TV here doesn't show favs on Sunday just random teams.
Fortunate to catch Dalton early in the season.
Don't forget Alex Smith is improving considerably week to week. He is also showing a greater intuition of his young receivers with every game.
Still of great concern is the injury to Willis, very likely the best inside linebacker in the league.
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Posted: 12/19/2011 11:13:39 PM | yeah i was gonna post if all the sprots announcers would stop blowing the steelers we could all enjoy some cool lead up to the MNF game of the year.
hey guess what? no rushing touch downs.
first time since 1928 sports fans. | |
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Posted: 12/19/2011 11:43:41 PM | | man the 49ers can't get that new staduim built fast enough. That place is falling apart lights going out areas of the staduim always needing rapaired etc.. it reminds me of mellon arena in pittsburgh. | |
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Posted: 12/20/2011 5:02:13 AM | | Those four turnovers killed the Steelers. That's what the Niners do though. That defense looked like they're as good as any last night. They're young too so look forward to those type performances for several years to come. We're gonna see several of those players in the pro bowl this year. Especially when the other top rated defenses are in the AFC. | |
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Posted: 12/20/2011 5:56:29 AM |
That defense looked like they're as good as any last night
I agree, Scooch. First time I've seen the Niners all year; very impressed with the defense, special teams, and overall game management/coaching. Very solid team. Will be a tough out in the playoffs. | |
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Posted: 12/20/2011 7:16:35 AM |
nothing about the game? -- speaks volumes..
Yeah we got spanked plan and simple nothing to really discuss Ben shouldn't have ben playing. | |
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