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|I've been reading a lot lately about presidents ppl hate (for a variety of reasons) but I'm curious as to your favorite(s) and why you feel that way....|
It can be for anything from achievements, policies, personalities etc
Posted: 3/14/2012 7:51:11 AM
|Reagan for policies...Clinton for personality.......Bush senior policies...Bush Jr personality...|
Posted: 3/14/2012 8:06:00 AM
He was the only President who could be described as Shakespearean. There's so much to say about him. I'll just time out and lose this whole post if I get started. Great strengths and great flaws. He did great and terrible things.
Posted: 3/14/2012 8:30:52 AM
|Halftime: I do that all the time! I just write what I want, copy it and if I get timed out I just go back and paste it!|
I'd love to hear your thoughts as you are a very interesting and intelligent poster. Go for it!
Posted: 3/14/2012 9:28:36 AM
|So basically he/she will have to be a combination of Ghandi, Bill Gates, the Dali Lama and David Copperfield all rolled into one? |
Well from what I gather on here, Canada is a nice place to live! Better get my passports in order, LOL
Posted: 3/14/2012 9:48:38 AM
|Ike Eisenhower. The last relatively respectable Republican president who warned us of the dangers of the Military Industrial Complex that proved to become all too true. Though accused of war crimes in the genocide of POWs after the war's end, the case of war crimes by subseqent GOP presidents is far more compelling.|
Posted: 3/14/2012 10:53:46 AM
|Benjamin Harrison . He was the last president to wear a full beard.|
William Howard Taft was the last president to wear any facial hair at all.
Abraham Lincoln, only president to have taken out a US patent.
Andrew Jackson, killed a man in a duel. 'Nuff said.
Posted: 3/14/2012 2:08:56 PM
|Reagan, I thought was tough on foreign policy, plus, he had the character to give acknowledgement and credit to Carter for his work on the treaty between Israel and Egypt.|
I still have to believe, though, FDR was one of our greatest presidents. I find it hard to compare, based on the times, how any president, past, present or future faced so much difficulty and adversity. I'm not sure this nation would have survived without him.
Posted: 3/14/2012 2:46:18 PM
|Reagan was my favorite too. He was very self effacing and at the same time self deprecating (about his acting career mostly)|
He was a warm man with a great personality; the last I've known since actually. People were just drawn to him and a kind demeanor goes a long way. Too many presidents seem removed and rigid and that really counts in the public eye. I'd say he was a people's man
But I think one of his best qualities was he was above reproach and escaped scandal and the ludicrousness of public speculation (about his personal life)
However, it's a delicate balance between being a "nice guy" and a strong leader when the world hangs on your every word and action. It's a job that not many ppl can handle!
Posted: 3/14/2012 3:06:19 PM
|Reagan was a most charming, if not the most charming drug dealer in history via Iran-Contra. He was a gentle deficit doubler, raising the the ceiling 18 times, raised taxes 11 times, a noble and diligent supporter of some of the most brutal regimes in central America and armed our good buddy Saddam with weapons including biological warfare ones. He seems like a saint compared to the current crop of wannabes.|
Posted: 3/14/2012 3:11:21 PM
|It's a hard call, but probably George Washington. I wish I could have met him. He was far more than the figure in the powdered wig in the portrait we all grow up seeing, or the boy who stories claim couldn't lie about the cherry tree, or threw a dollar clear across the Potomac.|
He was a very skilled general, with unmatched physical and moral courage, integrity, wisdom, cool intelligence, resolve, humility, grace, and limitless confidence and strength, all combined in one man. Not a hero made up for schoolbooks, but by the accounts of the men who knew him, and of the historians who have studied him in detail, the real thing.
Matters of state may have been simpler then in many ways, but they were also far more difficult. Probably only Lincoln and FDR served during such difficult times. Washington had to lead and inspire an infant country that was not yet very powerful--he knew it was still in great danger. But when he spoke, everyone listened. All the forceful, powerful men around him--great men themselves had the greatest respect for him. He was one of those rare giants among men, and we were very lucky to have him when we did.
and armed our good buddy Saddam with weapons including biological warfare ones.
I doubt you have any evidence at all that the U.S., which had abandoned its own biological weapons program in 1972, helped Saddam Hussein's Iraq get any such weapons. That is a stock, worn-out leftist slander against this country, just as false now as it always has been. I'd like to able to say I'm surprised to see you repeat it, but I'm not.
Posted: 3/14/2012 6:14:26 PM
I doubt you can watch anything other than Faux New, so this is just one link of many to acknowledge your love of Saddam/Match. Geeze...is it so difficult to honor the truth about our old puppets that you have to demand others do the simple work for ya. Reagan loved these guys.
Posted: 3/14/2012 6:15:41 PM
|I will just remind you that this is a thread about the presidents you LIKED not the ones you DON'T. As I said, there are enough threads about that....One person's opinion is another person's fodder, we get it....|
Matchlight: I totally agree with you! Although we didn't have the issues or problems then that we have now, he was tasked with the job of setting the precedent for the office, trying to organize the "new world" and fighting for his country at the same time.
He was brave and smart, solid and trustworthy...Far from the men who've succeeded him. But I don't want to break my own rule so I'll stop there, lol
Posted: 3/14/2012 6:50:40 PM
|It's fine if you want to run away from the actual legacy of perceived "heros" of late like the faux legacy of Reagan, but it is also important to look at these figures actions after their service in the most difficult job on earth in our lives and how they lived up to their hype. Most have gone onto speaking tours, making gobs of money, some have combined speaking and continued service in some manner. |
To me, Jimmy Carter, much as I feared southern Baptists at the time, inherited a bad situation, got honest with the "lust in my heart" thing, which freaked out the conservatives of the day, beat the "terrorist" rabbit with his canoe paddle, had the hostage crisis, the gas crisis, was inheriting a doomed to fail presidency set up before him, lost re-election accordingly and honorably, but yet, went on to be the most honorable, proactive, and involved ex-Presidents of my life timeline. From peace in the middle east efforts to Habitat For Humanity, hands on with hammer and nails, Jimmy has continued to exude class, put his walk in his talk, and remained a class act in all things diplomatically. As scared of him as I was then, he has proven to be one of the few remaining honest politicians I grew to respect over time.
Posted: 3/14/2012 7:32:01 PM
|Dem Pres: Harry Truman--a no nonsense kinda guy who put the current Dems to shame.|
GOP: Richard Nixon--(minus watergate) who by today's standards, wouldn't even qualify to be considered a republican.
Posted: 3/14/2012 7:36:58 PM
he was tasked with the job of setting the precedent for the office, trying to organize the "new world" and fighting for his country at the same time.
Washington served because he believed it was his duty. He had so much prestige he could have been a king, if he'd wanted--but he didn't even much like being president. Things he said and wrote make clear he could hardly wait to go back to his farm. He did, and died a very painful death. A shame--it was bad enough that he apparently was physically uncomfortable much of the time because of his teeth.
Posted: 3/15/2012 3:56:16 AM
|I would have to say Washington, especially after watching an episode of decoded and how they used regular citizens as spies and developed a whole network to defeat the British and exposed Benedict Arnold as a traitor, a very smart honorable man. The other would be Lincoln, who did what was right dispite the horrible cost and then losing his life for those beliefs. More recently would be Clinton, just got to love the scoundrel and he plays the sax too.|
Posted: 3/15/2012 4:27:04 AM
|^^^^^And don't forget the fact that he did not actually "have sexual relations with that woman" LOL |
Posted: 3/15/2012 6:26:14 AM
|you say next one and tell what all he has to do.sorry not one running can do all that.|
Posted: 3/15/2012 7:16:18 AM
Halftime: I do that all the time! I just write what I want, copy it and if I get timed out I just go back and paste it! I second this!
I'd love to hear your thoughts as you are a very interesting and intelligent poster. Go for it!
Favorite president: Lincoln
Posted: 3/15/2012 7:24:48 AM
I've been reading a lot lately about presidents ppl hate (for a variety of reasons) but I'm curious as to your favorite(s) and why you feel that way....
Avul Pakir Jainulabdeen Abdul Kalam, aka Dr Kalam.
If you do not know him, then you do not know one of the world greatest presidents was.
Though if it is American presidents then it would have to be Grover Cleveland.
The guy buys a baby carriage for his law partner on the birth of his daughter only to marry that same girl some 21 years later in the White House.
Posted: 3/15/2012 8:26:43 AM
|Yes I meant American presidents....|
The guy buys a baby carriage for his law partner on the birth of his daughter only to marry that same girl some 21 years later in the White House
That's just creepy! But at least if he had children with her they could use the same baby carriage she did, lol
Posted: 3/15/2012 3:40:33 PM
|If it weren't for the slave thing...|
I would say President Jackson.
He did away with the FED of his day.
and left a balanced budget.
I don't think he would stand for the banking fraudsters running the show now.
(at the FED, in the White House, and in Wall street)
He'd probably challenge The CEO Goldman Sachs to a duel or something
if he got uppity.
Posted: 3/15/2012 3:45:13 PM
|My favorite president was Mikhail Gorbachev. He was so brave.|
I can't pick an American president. Those from recent history each had marred legacies. I liked Clinton quite a bit. Hell, I liked Bush, Jr. right up until we went to Iraq.