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 BLoNde__ANgeL
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So I do like stylish clothes, but w/ the economy as such coupled w/ my taste for the trendy, I started getting things from that cheap largest-in-the-world retail chain & found quite a few things to be pretty decent. But I was of the school where quality is pertinent & better to have a few quality pieces that last 4ever...

should I continue in my new found el-cheapo vein, or go back to my more champagne tastes? or perhaps a mix of the 2?

Does wearing a $15 sundress w/ a coach purse & good jewelry & shoes look ridiculous?

Quite a few of the ladies in here email w/ me & talk about such stuff, please don't delete...

any fashion spending tips from either gender is welcome in addition to answering the question...

and guys, when u 1st meet a girl, can u tell if her clothes are cheap or expensive?
 HalftimeDad
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Posted: 3/22/2012 9:48:22 AM
Not as a rule. We just see the woman. Nice clothes make the woman look better, but very few guys could say why. A good haircut is the same - we don't know why she looks better after a really good cut, but she does.

I'm going to make a shameful confession. If I'm in the expensive residential part of this city, there's a thrift store I stop into. Last time I bought a pair of Hugo Boss, German made pants for $4.
 ohenryx
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Posted: 3/22/2012 9:49:04 AM
Interesting topic, I’m interested in seeing the replies. I’m afraid I am completely unable to offer any advice personally, but I can answer the question you posed to the guys.

No, I have no idea how much a woman’s clothes cost. Absolutely none. I can tell when a woman is over-dressed for the occasion, or under-dressed. And I can easily tell whether a woman made an attempt to look good (clothes, makeup, etc). But I absolutely cannot tell $600 shoes from similar shoes sold for $15 at Payless.

^^^^ I'm just like halftimedad, I have purchased used clothing at the thrift shop. Especially in this day and age.
 BLoNde__ANgeL
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Posted: 3/22/2012 9:53:50 AM
I got some irregular Louis V (or knock offs) in Atlantic City. I've found designer stuff @ Goodwill too...
 ThinkinginCA
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Posted: 3/22/2012 10:00:34 AM

Not as a rule. We just see the woman. Nice clothes make the woman look better, but very few guys could say why. A good haircut is the same - we don't know why she looks better after a really good cut, but she does.



I've always suspected that most men (but not all) were clueless to value of clothing...and really some cheaper cloths are a good way to try out fashions that you may often not want to invest too much into.

But the boost in confidence is probably not so much the perfection of whatever feature was enhanced, but I suspect more result of the satisfaction and confidence the person feels.

Good topic, BTW, OP.
 hoopsnhikes
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Posted: 3/22/2012 10:00:57 AM

cheap & trendy VS expensive & classy?


Mine tend to lean towards cheap and not trendy.


and guys, when u 1st meet a girl, can u tell if her clothes are cheap or expensive?

Personally, no. I would probably prefer it if they weren't expensive though. Not only do I prefer a "simpler" look, but we'd probably have more in common in terms of other things as well.
 laskoboo
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Posted: 3/22/2012 10:02:00 AM
I live near dallas texas.. big fashion area.. I can get designer clothing for walmart ( or less, usually much less ) prices.
Not knock offs either....... have to drive to dallas, about 20 or 25 minutes away and I do so about every 3 months.

I do wear designer clothing but do not pay much for any of it. Usually 10 dollars or maybe 12 for a 200 dollar shirt.
I have shoes, jackets, purses all about the same. Recently got 2 leather jackets... for 19 each... retail over 400 each.

With jewelry, I only wear the good stuff on rare occasions.. not like I want to be walking around like a blithering idiot and get myself mugged or worse !


fashion spending tips?
shop in areas that area in the fashion industries, last years 400 dollar designs now selling for 19.00
lol
My husband gets mad at me, tells me to spend more money, stop being so cheap, pay retail... no way... I know where to spend money and clothing in this area ( dallas tx) is not where to do it.
I'm saving up my grocery money for a new house.. lol.. bigger one with way more space. I need bigger closets too :)
One with stainless steel appliances, which my husband also wants. 3 car garage would be nice too.
Houses also very inexpensive here in Texas compared to the rest of the USA. Why anyone would want to live anywhere but my area is beyond me.



My girlfriends with executive type husbands ( married up) are the same way... lots of clothing, all designer, all bought dirt cheap.
What we prefer to spend money on is nice cars and of course going to lunch :)
In some parts of the world I bet cars are cheap and clothing is sky high.
 laskoboo
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Posted: 3/22/2012 10:51:01 AM
Best show on fashion... what not to wear.

It's awesome !<img src=http://www.plentyoffish.com/smiles/icon_201.gif border=0>

I would wear cheap clothing if expensive wasn't so affordable where I am. That show is great because it teaches women how to dress for their figure.
That is most important.. FIT !!!

Better clothing seems to fit better.. or is that just me? lol
 BLoNde__ANgeL
Joined: 9/20/2011
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Posted: 3/22/2012 10:53:54 AM
yes fit- i prefer dresses & skirts, cuz I have a smaller waist & a bigger azz...jeans tend to gap in the waist...empire waist tops & dresses are made for me!

plus the skirts & dresses are feminine & comfy...also give easy access

OH I LOVE 2 SHOP ONLINE TOO!
 LiliMarleen
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Posted: 3/22/2012 10:56:14 AM
I prefer to buy originally expensive or at least higher end clothing at discount prices.

I used to frequent my local thrift shop for years, and today, for example, I'm wearing a Donna Karan skirt that I bought there probably for $5 or something like that. The same goes for the BCBG skirt I wore yesterday.

However, HOWEVER, ladies, I have also discovered some amazing online shopping oppportunities, that I'm sure I'm not allowed to post here, but I'll be happy to share if you want to email me about them.

On many of them, you can buy designer clothes, shoes, accessories, and jewelery at prices that are sometimes up to 90% off.

And, yes, there is a HUGE difference between a $150 pair of shoes and one that's originally $30 in terms of fit and comfort. Only, I never pay much more than about $30 max for a pair of shoes, even if they were originally $200 or more.
 laskoboo
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Posted: 3/22/2012 11:20:58 AM

i prefer dresses & skirts, cuz I have a smaller waist & a bigger azz


I'm all messed up now because of recent tummy tuck...........
and now have super small waist. This was part of my breast recon after breast cancer, not a vanity thing. I may go to skirts now too because its just too hard to find pants. I am short waisted with big butt. I do not like stretch jeans because I think they are too hot to wear ( I live in Texas)
and now lots of my tops don't fit anymore because my breast size changed. Gonna need to start over. My kids will raid my closet and have it empty within 20 minutes when I do. Maybe some new tops and "skirts" now.
That is a nice summer look anyway, a skirt with sandels !

My man likes when I dress nice. He likes me to go shop and buy nice things.
 BLoNde__ANgeL
Joined: 9/20/2011
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Posted: 3/22/2012 12:16:15 PM
what also looks hot is a skirt w/ boots in the winter or a sundress in the summer w/ a little shrug if u go into the AC...can be dressed up or down...

hard to get a great fitting pair of jeans- when I do, I buy 2 pairs, LOL!
 lotustemple
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Posted: 3/22/2012 12:26:44 PM
I'd rather put my money into yoga classes, supplements, prescription skin care and conservative cosmetic surgery. When your body, skin and hair are super healthy, your attire and accessories pale in comparison. You can look hawt in rags.
 Gwendolyn2010
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Posted: 3/22/2012 1:11:10 PM

should I continue in my new found el-cheapo vein, or go back to my more champagne tastes? or perhaps a mix of the 2? Does wearing a $15 sundress w/ a coach purse & good jewelry & shoes look ridiculous?


I mix the two—kinda. I refuse to spend lots of money for shoes or clothing and I wait out sales. As for mixing being ridiculous--nope, not if you wear them with flair! I do not like to buy clothes at the world’s biggest retailer because I see too many other women wearing the same dresses.

I have my own style and it must work because strangers (including students) stop me to comment favorably on my clothes and footwear. However, a lot depends on the presentation, and a woman who dresses well but slumps and/or shuffles will not get as much notice. This goes for men, as well.


Not as a rule. We just see the woman.


Most men might not recognize the cost of clothes, but men DO notice what women wear. Not only have men whom I have dated (even once) made specific comments about my clothes, but again, male strangers have, as well.


Personally, no. I would probably prefer it if they weren't expensive though. Not only do I prefer a "simpler" look, but we'd probably have more in common in terms of other things as well.


Expensive clothes can be VERY simple and understated!


I'd rather put my money into yoga classes, supplements, prescription skin care and conservative cosmetic surgery. When your body, skin and hair are super healthy, your attire and accessories pale in comparison. You can look hawt in rags.


The rest of us aren’t so blessed with a perfect body and skin. Personally, I wouldn’t have any cosmetic surgery that requires general anesthesia. Good hair is a genetic blessing (I KNOW all about this). Of course, some of us actually post pictures of ourselves so others can judge our hotness. Funny, I have a lot of clothes, but I don’t spend a fortune: I have never had surgery, taken a yoga class, had prescription skin care products, or taken supplements, yet at nearly 60, I still attract the interest of men. Go figure.


but I suspect more result of the satisfaction and confidence the person feels.


Spot on.
 Drestin.Red
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Posted: 3/22/2012 1:31:09 PM
Cheap, nope, not interested. But I live in the big city where we have designer wearhouses with deeply discounted prices. Where I live we "dress up" I like the traditional preppy style, which can be really pricey. But I never pay full price. I shop at the second hand boutiques, the wearhouses, the off the run-way one of a kind shops & anywhere I can find high dollar designer clothing that has been discounted.

Men say they have no clue as to the value of clothing but I have seen men checking out a plain jane woman that has on high dollar well made, well fitting outfit over a gorgeous one that has on a cheaply made, ill fitting out fit. They say they can't tell the diff in shoes, maybe not. But a woman with a pair of bow chuka bow wow Santana stilletoes will get a man's attention over a cheap made pair of shoes from the world wide in every neighborhood story, every time.

Cheap looks just that, cheap!

I like the way high dollar fabrics feel & I like the way they fit my body. I like the confidence I get when I know I look good. Champagne taste does not have to break your budget if you know where to shop.

A $15 Vera Wang you bought at a discount store looks marvelous with a Coach bag. I never buy the knock off bags, they are cheapy made & will fall apart before you get your monies worth out of them. Better off buying last years discounted designer bag.

The top I have on in my profile pic is a 100% linen Oscar De La Renta originally priced at $1,490 at Saks, I guarantee you I did not pay anything near that price. It's cute but not a thousand dollar cute.
 BLoNde__ANgeL
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Posted: 3/22/2012 1:46:04 PM
my fake louis held up like the real thing- i have real coaches & luckies & a dooney & bourke, but i got bored w/ them. but still they all look impecable..the lucky brand purses are my favs cuz they have a hippie look to them...

macys has great clearances, esp w/ coupons, I end up 90% off. I just hate the rummaging thru racks & racks of stuff...

i know, i'll move to a nudist colony...

as far as skin & hair, I already have gotten it where I want- the clothes r the fun part!!!
 ohenryx
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Posted: 3/22/2012 2:10:30 PM

Drestin.Red:

Men say they have no clue as to the value of clothing but I have seen men checking out a plain jane woman that has on high dollar well made, well fitting outfit over a gorgeous one that has on a cheaply made, ill fitting out fit. They say they can't tell the diff in shoes, maybe not. But a woman with a pair of bow chuka bow wow Santana stilletoes will get a man's attention over a cheap made pair of shoes from the world wide in every neighborhood story, every time.


Personally, I think you’re delusional. A man will notice if she has big boobs, or a heart shaped butt. He will also notice from a mile away if she has really long, beautiful hair. He will not notice, and will not give a damn if she’s wearing a $1,000 dress with $600 shoes and a $1,200 purse. The average man probably doesn't even know that it's possible to spend that kind of money on a purse.

Now I can think of one place that a woman can spend a ridiculous amount of money, and be noticed. Capped teeth. I see more and more women these days with $25,000 worth of caps.
 laskoboo
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Posted: 3/22/2012 2:37:52 PM
When I first met my husband at a met and greet, he said to me:

"you look and dress like a lady "........ so yeah men notice how a woman dresses.
Maybe more a dallas Fort Worth vs Houston thing.

I have expensive handbags too... love em... my husband is always trying to buy me things I like. I am just guessing but he really likes a woman who looks like and dresses like a lady.
That does not include "candies" shoes and really long hair.

 BLoNde__ANgeL
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Posted: 3/22/2012 2:47:35 PM

That does not include "candies" shoes
LOL LMFAO
never skimp on cheap shoes & purses- your feet will hurt, u will frown & look mean & a good purse lasts a lifetime- my mom gave me a vintage chanel purse- it is as stylish today as it was 50 yrs ago & looks brand new! Rachel Zoe would kill me for it!

coincidenatlly I just had this article pop up....
http://yahoo.match.com/y/article.aspx?articleid=12717&TrackingID=526103&BannerID=1099738
What men and women notice on dates

By Kimberly Dawn Neumann

Dating costs plenty of dough, no doubt about it. But when it comes to spending your hard-earned cash, where should you invest it in order to get the most mileage when it comes to dating? In other words, before hitting the meet-and-greet scene next weekend, what’s really going to make you more attractive to the opposite sex — and what’s a waste of your dating dollars? Before you max out a credit card trying to win your date’s affections (or convince someone you’re hot), check out these interesting tidbits we dug up for more budget-conscious men and women. Because when it comes to putting your best flirting foot forward, it doesn’t always have to be about your shoes!

1. Men say that having gorgeous hair trumps a curvy figure. Trying to decide between a pre-date trip to the salon or Victoria’s Secret, ladies? Go for the fab hair option. According to a recent survey conducted by Pantene, 60% of men surveyed would rather date a woman with great hair than noticeable curves — and 74% of them said they notice a woman because of her hair. In fact, a full 44% of male respondents said that hair was the first thing they notice about a woman… even before her clothes (26%), legs (25%) and makeup (4%). Most of the men who took Pantene’s poll also said they’d be more likely to approach a woman at a bar with great hair than one who was wearing a low-cut shirt. This is great news, since monthly hair upkeep is more of a necessity than sexy lingerie if you’re a woman who’s on a budget. Of course, that doesn’t mean you can’t wear sassy underwear if you’ve got it — but when change is tight (like in this tanked economy), it’s good to know that a well-timed mane flip can still make you a main attraction.

2. Guys find pink or red lips more alluring than the sexiest pair of stilettos. Should you invest in a pair of high heels, or that new Chanel red lipstick? If you’re forced to choose just one of these items, research shows that rouged lips are a better bet. In a recent Match.com survey of over 24,000 men and women, 88% of respondents said their date’s laugh made a bigger impression on a first date; only 12% picked shoes (there goes that perfect excuse for buying a new pair of Manolo Blahniks, right?).

Add a pop of red to that smiling and laughing mouth, and your attractiveness spikes even more, according to a study from the University of Manchester published in the UK’s Daily Mail. Researchers tracked the eye movements of 50 men and discovered that that in the 10 seconds after meeting a woman for the first time, the average guy will spend more than half of his time gazing at her mouth. If she’s applied lipstick, he’ll find it even more difficult to look away: a dash of pink can hold his attention for 6.7 seconds, while red keeps him fixated for 7.3 seconds. According to the study, fuller pouts were the overall preference, though the appeal of thin-lipped women increased by 40% when lipstick was applied — but when the ladies went completely bare, men tired of looking at their mouths after only 2.2 seconds. So regardless of your lip type, it pays to paint your pucker on date night.

3. Women looking for real relationships are more impressed by traditional love tokens than an expensive ride. Guys like cars, sure — but are women equally impressed by them? It seems that if you’re a man who’s looking for the real thing, then you’re ultimately better off sinking your cash into thoughtful gestures (i.e., dinners, flowers, etc.) than those flashy wheels to get the girl of your dreams. A study of over 1,000 men conducted by researchers from Rice University, the University of Texas-San Antonio (UTSA), and the University of Minnesota revealed that being in possession of a Porsche did make a man more desirable to women than owning a non-luxury car, such as a Honda Civic. However, the attraction ended there.

While women found men showing off a flashy product (like a brightly colored sports car) to be more attractive when it came to dating, that same trait didn’t make men more desirable as marriage partners or for long-term committed relationships, the study’s authors explained. In fact, they found that women inferred from men’s flashy spending that they were only interested in having casual hook-ups with their dates. So if you’re looking for something more than a fling, don’t worry what you’re chauffeuring your cutie around in — focus on making her feel special instead.

4. Men and women agree: being physically fit makes someone more attractive and relationship-worthy to them. If you’re looking to up your sex appeal on you next date, what will serve you better: looking hot, or getting the two of you intoxicated? This may be a no-brainer, but if you’re thinking of having something more than just a fling, spend your dollars getting rid of your doughy middle and strive for six-pack abs instead. According to the 2011 Great Male Survey by AskMen.com, 38% of men think that great abs are appreciated the most by women (and most of us gals would agree). This gym expenditure goes for women, too: having a fit figure is definitely going to get you more long-term action than a martini ever could. In fact, 47% of men surveyed by AskMen.com said they’d dump their girlfriend for getting fat (OK, to give some men credit, 53% said they wouldn’t), and that’s some good motivation to hit the cardio circuit.

If that’s still not enough to convince you, keep in mind that working out will also increase your prowess in the bedroom. In fact, a study published in the American Journal of Cardiology indicated that treadmill exercise duration predicted sexual activity duration (specifically, a 2.3-minute increase in sexual activity duration for each minute of treadmill time). So the next time you’re tempted by the hottie who’s running on the gym treadmill next to you, why not ask that person out?

5. Bad hygiene is a universal turn-off, regardless of what you’re wearing. While Mark Twain famously said that “clothes make the man” (or woman, as the case may be), all the designer duds in the world won’t impress your date if you haven’t had a shower first. In fact, a recent Match.com poll asked nearly 35,000 men and women to name their biggest turn-off on a date. The responses included bad breath (11%), dirty fingernails (1%), body odor (16%) or all of the above (72%). Not surprisingly, bad hygiene is a mood killer for romance.

In terms of dating economics, it doesn’t matter if you’re dressed in Prada, Armani or something from Old Navy (just make sure to wear whatever fits well and makes you feel confident). What absolutely, unequivocally matters is that you’re clean and smell good before you arrive. Brush your teeth, wash your hands, and use deodorant; for maximum marketability, always put your money where your mouth is!
 Gwendolyn2010
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Posted: 3/22/2012 2:52:56 PM
I have over 100 pairs of shoes and only one purse--I bought it at Penney's. I know I am in the minority, but a purse holds my stuff. I don't want one that looks my mother's, but I don't care diddly for a brand name.
 Drestin.Red
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Posted: 3/22/2012 3:04:41 PM
Eeeeeew I love Lucky brand bags & Fossil too & they can be found reasonably priced.

Ohenry...men may not know the value of the garmet or care about the price, but he will notice the overall package. They know what looks good & I guarantee a woman with a nice set of boobs but wearing a cheap ill fitting bra & top that gives the impression her boobs are saggy will not get the looks as compared to a woman that has on better quality that fits well & makes those titties stand to attention.

You can't see a cute heart shaped butt if it's hiding behind cheap slacks that sag in the rear. But you sure can see that little gem when the slacks hug the butt & are made of a real nice material. Big dif between cheap ill fitting clothing & high dollar clothes made out of nice material.

As for long beautiful hair, rarely will it continue to look beautiful if it is not well maintained & that can get very expensive.

But ohenry, you might be right, because I don't date "average" men so I have no idea what they want.

Oh Gwen sweety you need to go shopping for shoes, pfft I converted a bedroom into a closet, half for shoes half for clothes. lol
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
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Posted: 3/22/2012 3:18:32 PM

and guys, when u 1st meet a girl, can u tell if her clothes are cheap or expensive?

Yep.

Does it matter? Nope.



I think the only thing that would turn me off is branded designers items.

I see nothing wrong with spending money on nice things that serve a purpose, but something just because of its brand, I would see as unpractical and superficial.

If she had a fake designer item, then two strikes. To buy something so you can be perceived as someone that would waste that kind of money, is not an attractive quality in my books, as it seem all rather fake.
 trinity818
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Posted: 3/22/2012 3:30:19 PM
It's not necessary to pay for designer labels in order to find decent fabrics and clothes that fit properly.

I've seen some high dollar outfits that look absolutely ridiculous. If you have to spend hundreds of dollars on a purse or a pair of shoes in order to feel good about yourself... well, that's just sad.

I can't afford to buy outrageously over-priced merchandise. And even if I could, I wouldn't. That doesn't mean I'm wearing or using cheap crap either. There are reasonable choices in the middle.
 lacalli
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Posted: 3/22/2012 3:34:53 PM

Personally, I think you’re delusional. A man will notice if she has big boobs, or a heart shaped butt.

Totally agree. It used to blow my mind how tuned into those things men are. When I had huge boobs I could be wearing a giant stretched out sweatshirt and men always knew. Women used to tell me they had no idea how big my boobs were (I was good at hiding them with carefully chosen clothing) and men always commented on them. They knew exactly almost to the cup size how big I was. Men do notice. And they didn't give a damn how expensive my clothes were or how cute my purses were. And I'd rather spend my money on a trip to Europe or South America than a closet full of Coach purses which look outdated last season in year.
I mostly shop at TJMaxx, Steinmart, ebay and Marshalls and I get tons of compliments on my clothes because I love putting together outfits.
I just took my entire savings account and put it into my retirement investments. Way smarter than spending it on yet another LV (which btw are now manufactured in China)
 lotustemple
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Posted: 3/22/2012 3:44:38 PM
Unfortunately the best quality fabrics and patterns can be found in the designer clothes which can cost a fortune. No comparison as to how quality designer clothes drape on your body vs. the cheap stuff.

Lots of women dress for other women. Seems to me men are more interested in those clothes coming off.
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