| | Right Knee Pain While JoggingPage 1 of 2 (1, 2) | So a few days ago I noticed that after jogging for a few miles, my right knee began to hurt really bad. I though maybe I broke something because even just moving it hurts, so I had to walk the rest of the way home. I apply a bag of ice over when I got home and it seemed to have gotten better, but just earlier I went jogging again and after a few miles, the pain came right back and I had to walk the rest of the way. Should I see my doctor or is this something normal? I've been jogging for a long time and I have never experienced any knee pain like this.  | |
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Posted: 3/28/2012 9:33:19 PM | hi, any kind of joint pain (especially the way you describe yours) is not normal...it's smart that you didn't try to run "through" the pain, and went home and iced....i'd definitely get it checked it out....i'd have some questions to ask you, such as how long you've been running, are you supplementing your cardio with some good resistance (strength)?..if so, exactly what are you doing.....
when you go to a doc, i'd bring in a pair of worn (running) shoes, or any kind....so the doc can check if they have abnormal wear patterns which could mean your alignment, muscle imbalances,...need adjustments, orthotics etc...
could go on for a long time...but in a nutshell...go to a doc, and get it checked out...don't try to run through it, because it could cause long term issues....good luck, tom | |
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Posted: 3/28/2012 9:51:29 PM | | Thanks for the quick reply. I have been jogging since high school, so I can't be approximate. I'm usually on and off. Although I don't do any strength training, I do apply 15-20 minutes of stretching before jogging. My running shoes are wearing out as well as I can tell. It might be my shoes as you said. I'll get a new pair of running shoes this weekend I guess and see if the problem still persist. | |
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Posted: 3/28/2012 9:53:15 PM | Some people have the right physical makeup to be runners and some will experience one injury after another until they have to accept that they were simply not cut out to be runners in the long run. Most peoples bodies do not do well with running in the long run.
Go to the doctor, have him refer you to a good physiotherapist, listen to them and heed thier advice or run the risk of a long term chronic injury. If they tell you to stop running then stop running. They wiil likely suggest you find something else to do for fitness that is less jarring to your body ( cycling, swimming, weight training, yoga etc ) until your knee heals. When your knee starts to feel better start by doing walks then a run/walk program and work back to running if you no longer get knee pain.
It is important to ditch your shoes long before they look like they are wearing out and you may want to see a podiatrist or an orthotist to evalute whether or not you need to get custom orthotics. | |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 5:13:35 AM | Yes see a doctor.^^^^^^^^ and all paddys advise.
Take it easy for a while.
You do know speed walking can make you move faster than a jog and less impact on your joints. | |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 5:56:40 AM | Definitely see a doctor. Any sort of joint pain isn't something to fool around with.
Take it from someone who's got debilitating knee issues at the moment. I've got severe pain and cannot move my knee properly anymore. I haven't been able to walk in 2 years. Trust me, joint pain is something you always take seriously. | |
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Posted: 4/3/2012 8:27:08 PM | I dont know if this is too late of info, but figured I would post this to also help others that may stumble upon it.
Yes, anytime you arent sure about why or how your body is hurting, a visit to the doc is a great idea.
now, about the knee: it also depends on where the pain is located. as a former athlete (beyond average levels) i can say from experience it may just be Tendonitis. its swelling and fraying of a tendon that flares up and can be quite painful. some of it can take a very long time to heal, such as "tennis elbow" which can take MONTHS to feel better.
rest, icing, limiting motion, some light duty on the part when working out, and stretching can help.
if the pain is in front below or right on the cap of the knee, its most likely the Patella tendon. you can get a patella band which wraps around the leg right below the kneecap, with a rubber insert inside it, forcing pressure right down on it can help a ton. the same for anyone that gets that nasty elbow issue.
use the band, ease up on the jogging a bit and it will slowly improve.
best of luck. | |
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Posted: 4/4/2012 8:48:09 PM | Two common causes:
Anterior knee pain can be patellar tendon (patellar tendinopathy--tendonitis is an old school term) aka jumper's knee. Usually there is tenderness at the base of the knee cap and pain increases with jumping. Usually, putting it on stretch by doing a quad stretch will cause pain. Usually it is self-limiting and avoiding activities that cause pain will help.
Anterior knee pain can also be caused by PFPS (this is more common). With this, you typically see pain with stairs and something called a "positive movie sign" which is pain after sitting for long periods. The cause of PFPS is more complex and it is related to a lot of different factors: muscular tightness and weakness in all muscles that cross the hip, q angle, altered foot mechanics, patellar maltracking.
I would pick a good PT before I'd see a doc for this. The PT can look at your gait mechanics and these other factors to determine the cause and show you interventions for its fix.
Not to berate you, but pain is NEVER normal--it is ALWAYS your body's way of communicating. Best to listen | |
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Posted: 4/5/2012 5:04:12 PM |
...My running shoes are wearing out as well as I can tell...
There is no such thing as wearing out well.
There is worn out or not worn out.
If they are showing signs of wear they are worn out.
I'll get a new pair of running shoes this weekend I guess and see if the problem still persists.
Not only will it persist, you will make it worse.
Regardless if it was the shoes or not, running on it will not make it better.
Your knee needs time to heel.
You have an injury and it needs time to heel, if not it will just get worse. | |
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Posted: 4/5/2012 5:58:30 PM | | Well, thank you for all the replies I suppose. I haven't jogged for almost a week now. Trying it on Monday again. | |
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Posted: 4/5/2012 7:32:26 PM | I guess you decided to take none of our advice... not really sure why you asked for it in the first place.
None of us know the degree of your knee problems - maybe you are like Tiger Woods limping of the course at the Cadillac Championship at Doral and all you had was a booboo!
A week is not enough time to rest a knee ( or an achillis tendon ) injury of any significance. | |
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Posted: 4/5/2012 7:41:41 PM | | Biggest problem is I don't have health insurance at the moment, so I don't feel like seeing a doctor right now. | |
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Posted: 4/5/2012 8:07:20 PM | You're in Mi--I'm pretty sure it doesn't allow you to go to a PT without a doc referral--pretty pricey given no insurance. I'm not a doc, and you really should get medical attention, but you've heard that, so I"ll let that go.
For what it is worth, this is what I would do if I were in your position:
1. I would change shoes. I would go to a runners store that evalutes your feet and your gait prior to buying shoes--they can tell you if you pronate, supinate,etc and can give you advise on shoes. Whatever shoes I bought, I would take out the inserts and replace them with spenco inserts or something of that nature. Shoe companies do not spend money on that part of the shoe. If you are an athlete, always change that out.
2. Likely I'd stretch your hip flexors, quads, hamstrings, gastrosoleus complex and ITB. But only stretch shortened musculature. Here's how I'd know. Hope I can explain this, you might need a friend to help. If you are lying on your back, can you pull your knee to your chest without any bend in the other hip (google Thomas Test). If you are lying on your stomach, can you bring your heel to your butt (google ElyTest). If you are lying on your back with one leg straight along the ground, can you bring the other leg up so it is perpendicular to the surface you are on (google straight leg test). If you are lying on your side, and you lift your top leg up and try to drop it back, can you bring it past the midline of your body (google Ober). (Sorry, I"d assess gastroc length with a goniometer) I'd foam roll in conjunction with my stretching for self myofascial release--particularly the ITB
3. I'd provide gentle massage around the knee--above the knee cap, below the knee cap and on each side. The retinacula there is pretty thick and it can contribute to the knee cap not being able to move around. Tied to that, I'd do GENTLE knee cap mobilizations. I would put a small pillow under my knee, shake my leg to make sure my quads are relaxed (remember, the patella is a sesmoid bone that floats in the quad tendon--it is not attached and should be able to float freely. a lot of times, people have pain because it is not positioned correctly and it rubs. I'd guess in a female it would more likely be displaced laterally.) Actually, I"m not going to try to explain it--google patellar mobilization, but be gentle here if you choose to do it. This is probably the part that you need assistance with--If you can't find a good vid to explain it, don't risk it.
4. I'd add a strengthening program for all muscles that cross the knee (same ones I listed that need to be stretched), but I'd particularly focus on the quads. People will tell you the VMO, but selective strengthening of that part of the quad doesn't really pan out. Oh, add the glute medius. I'd strengthen that too. And of course, the core. But I'd make sure I'd do stabilzation for the core, not strength and I"d focus on the inner unit, not that six pack that a lot of people covet.
5. I'd be mindful about mileage I ran and I'd make sure I progress appropriately. You mention that you are a long time runner, but it also sounds like you've taken some time off because of this. A lot of times pain is associated with increasing mileage too quickly (not just knee pain, but other types like shin splints etc).
6. I'd see if there was a PT or PTA program near me and if they offer treatment for the option of being a 'guinea pig' I'd also consider calling a PT to see if they do an pro bono--they might, or if they just evaluate you and you pay for one session, it will likely be less than you pay for new shoes....
Good luck. I hope it resolves. | |
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Posted: 4/6/2012 4:17:39 AM | I've had knee pain too.
First off, do NOT jog on cement/concrete/hard surfaces. Grass, bark-dusted or loose dirt trails can help a ton with lessening the impact forces.
Where is the knee pain? Mine was just below the knee joint on the upper shin. A don't have health insurance either, so a quick google search came up with "jumpers knee," (basically tendonitis) which is common to people new to jogging.
Self diagnosing isn't always accurate, and the worse you are at researching, deciphering and applying the information overload you'll come across...
....also, Asian women have higher rates of osteoporosis (bone loss). | |
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Posted: 4/12/2012 9:15:43 PM | Pain is usually an indicator of a biomechanical dysfunction more than anything. It's the bodies way of telling you that something is out of balance particularily when there isn't an acute injury.
I suggest looking at your posture and body mechanics. Is it the inside or outside or your knee that hurts? How is your dorsal flexion? Are your feet externally rotated when your standing normally? Do you exhibit any anterior pelvic tilting? Does one side of your iliac crest (pelvis) appear higher when looking at yourself from the rear? Do you have tightness in your hip flexors or hamstrings or both? | |
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Posted: 4/15/2012 4:07:14 PM | | If pain is persistent, consult your family Dr as soon as possible so that you get peace of mind that it is not a very serious injury. Considering that you can walk straight without a limp daily, bend and straigthen the knee (i.e., squat), and climb stairs. You are still better off. Refrain from doing the aggravating activity for now and do regular activities. Try non weighbearing exercises instead. | |
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Posted: 4/23/2012 5:14:17 PM | | on an emotional level see if there is anything in you life that is stopping you from moving, or where you feel stuck? Sometimes the body trys to get our attention when we don't listen with our emotions and ignor the feelings. Kind of hard to ignor a knee, especially for you:) Smart body | |
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Posted: 7/10/2012 11:11:52 PM | Custom orthotics solved my right knee and and hip pain. Turns out my feet pronate.
I saw my doctor, who sentenced me to physical therapy where I had custom orthotics made. | |
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Posted: 7/11/2012 7:22:47 AM | | Your shoe's soul is probably to thick and cushy. This causes and promotes irregular and biomechanicaly incorrect form with how you land on your feet. | |
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Posted: 7/14/2012 1:28:04 AM | No insurance? oh dear, this must be a scary thing for you. I experienced this too, except I dropped a bed on my knee so I knew exactly when I hurt my knee.
You want to rest your knee. Do cardio that will not make you put all your weight on one knee. Or at least, run on soft terrain, like grass.
Take an anti-inflammatory before you run. If you notice a difference, then at least you might not have structural damage....yet.
Go to a GOOD running shoe store. One that will check out foot's arch. If you have flat feet invest on a good pair of motion control shoes so you don't over pronate like that lady ^^^ mentioned.
Never stretch before you run, only after. | |
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Posted: 7/14/2012 4:51:45 AM | I'm in this camp:
Your shoe's soul is probably to thick and cushy. This causes and promotes irregular and biomechanicaly incorrect form with how you land on your feet.
I used to have pain in my knees, right hip, ankle, and heel. I then started running barefoot (only when I can, I use minimal shoes otherwise with no padding or arch support in cold weather or on rocky trails) and after retraining my body to do so, I have almost no pain when I run.
But others have given you advice to get a cushy, motion control shoe and orthotics.
Nothing wrong with that advice, either, as those things obviously worked for those folks.
Bottom line, you have to try some different things and figure out what works best for YOU, and not worry so much about what worked for others.
If you are interested in barefoot running, luckily, it's cheap to try out. Go to a park with nice grass and open space where you know it gets cleaned up (no glass, metal in the ground, etc.) and jog for 10 minutes. Do it the next day and the next until you start feeling sore, then take a couple days off. Repeat, but don't run if it hurts. Lift your knees up and strike with your fore/mid foot instead of your heel.
Good luck, knee pain sucks! | |
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Posted: 7/15/2012 7:43:19 AM | | I used to have similar problems then I got off concrete / tarmac altogether and (still with good soles) went to grass, fields, cross country and never had any problems since. I'd stop for at least a few days if I where you though with the pain, before starting again. | |
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Posted: 7/15/2012 8:37:31 AM |
No insurance? oh dear, this must be a scary thing for you. I experienced this too, except I dropped a bed on my knee
I have nightmares like this one.. | |
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Posted: 9/15/2012 2:15:03 PM | | take up cycling/swimming, low impact, running no good for joints long term.sounds like cartleige?. try emu oil rub it into it for month | |
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