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 Stephanieplum2
Joined: 5/19/2011
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Apologies if this has been discussed before! I have a rule, mentioned in my profile, that I won't chat online to anyone without a pic. Frequently, virtually as soon as I log on, someone asks me to chat and not only have they no pic, but obviously haven't even looked at my profile! Out of politeness I then answer to explain this. They then offer to send me a pic on msn. Why? why? why? I automatically wonder who they are hiding from or if they look so awful nobody would chat. Much better to read profile and then you have something more to talk about than 'hi'!!
 AwwwShucks
Joined: 8/16/2010
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Posted: 5/16/2012 3:24:53 AM
Do you mean as in the messenger thingy?

I've never instigated one of those as just don't believe in invading anyones privacy in that way...guess just old fashioned.

Nope nothing wrong with advising others you only chat to people with pictures on their profile, since you have one on yours.

I do find it odd however that some without a picture on theirs have that stipulation...which is downright weird!
 x_kags_x
Joined: 3/1/2010
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Posted: 5/16/2012 5:00:30 AM
I'd say (though it's possible I am wrong ;-) ) that these "invisible im'ers" probably fire off numerous chat requests at once, hoping that one person will fall for it. The rude talk will commence pretty much as soon as someone answers. They offer to send you a pic on msn as they are unable to post one publicly in case their partner sees and/or the pic will not be of their face... I never accept a chat request from someone I've not communicated with by message and who hasn't had the courtesy to ask anyway but that might be me being a bit hoity toity.

Call me cynical ....

vvv

Hmm very strange indeed ... unless admin had deleted him and he was still online? Doesn't really add up but it's the best explanation I can come up with!
 Jacknher
Joined: 11/23/2011
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Posted: 5/16/2012 5:15:14 AM
^^^^^ I'd say you are not far off the mark there x_kags_x

I got an IM chat request last week....from someone whose profile wouldn't load although I clicked on his name several times and tried a "username" search...and still nothing.
I'm certainly not interrested in him as it only took him a few minutes to get round to asking if I was in bed....then didnt reply again after I said "No".
But I have been wondering since how someone can have a username and be able to use IM....but have his profile completely hidden.
 ControlledFolly
Joined: 2/17/2011
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Posted: 5/16/2012 5:56:30 AM
Also beware of people wanting to use MSN email etc to send photos, especially right at the beginning there is a high proabability they are a scammer.

If they can upload a photo to email or MSN they can certainly do it on POF. So why are they so desperate to get you away from IM on POF?

For a start they want your personal Email address (this can be sold to advertisers), few people use multiple ones in the older age groups. They can then embed in the photo attach a virus for you to open, which will most likey be a trojan or a keylogger that will report back to them every keypress you do on the keyboard. If you use internet banking or even online shopping they will have enough on you to steal your ID or empty your bank account/ top up your credit cards.


There really is no reason to stay away from POF IM, if you like the sound of them then have a chat on a disposable mobile phone. If they give you phone number that looks odd then google that number and you will be able to find its source. There are some very expensive premium phone lines in the cayman islands that look quite genuine.

At this point if you are feeling good about it all then its should all be ok.

These people are a rarity but i am sorry for teaching you to suck eggs if you know this stuff, but for those that dont then i hope this is helpful. Dating sites state about being careful with your personal info for a very good reason.

Just use some common sense, listen to your gut feeling and arm yourself with a little knowledge and dating is safe and fun ( when they bother to reply haha)
 ibakecakes
Joined: 11/27/2008
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Posted: 5/16/2012 5:58:40 AM
Hi Jacknher,
I have my profile hidden as I am only here for the forums and already have a partner, and despite saying this on my profile, still got heaps of messages obviously thinking I was lying and gagging for it! People here can message me as can those who have previously messaged me, plus I can use the IM. Probably not the exact reason why your man had his profile hidden but you never know!!!!!


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Ooooooooooooooooo Folly, talk technical to me again *swoon* heheehehehehe
 Jacknher
Joined: 11/23/2011
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Posted: 5/16/2012 6:19:29 AM

For a start they want your personal Email address (this can be sold to advertisers), few people use multiple ones in the older age groups. They can then embed in the photo attach a virus for you to open, which will most likey be a trojan or a keylogger that will report back to them every keypress you do on the keyboard. If you use internet banking or even online shopping they will have enough on you to steal your ID or empty your bank account/ top up your credit cards.

Many thanx for that CF......I had no idea about the photo link thing. I have had a man email me his photo because he couldnt upload it on POF on the work computer......supposedly!!!! (although in his case I think he's just married not an internet scammer)

Thanx also ibakecakes....I puzzled over that one for a few days. I knew you could hide on the main site and be active on here......but I was sure you couldn't hide and be active on the main site at the same time.
 gemini_lady_uk
Joined: 7/16/2008
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Posted: 5/16/2012 6:39:10 AM
I thought you could hide your profile on the main site so that people couldn't find you in a search but that doesn't stop people with hidden profiles from instigating a contact, although I would imagine once contact was made, their profile would have to show up to whoever they contacted.

Another potential trick to watch out for is someone without a picture who then says they can't upload to PoF but will send you a pic via mobile phone. I always refuse these suggestions as it then means they can text/phone you - and I have an ancient phone so I can't do 'blocking'
 marcochampo
Joined: 4/20/2011
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Posted: 5/16/2012 6:59:04 AM
yeah i agree ,, sounds like the start of a scam, they are just phishing too see if anyone will take the bate and give them some personal contact details..
.if in doubt don't accept IM chat ,
or your likely to get yourself put on someone's suckers list ..
 Stephanieplum2
Joined: 5/19/2011
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Posted: 5/17/2012 12:48:45 PM
Thank you all, you have confirmed my suspicions and also that I am not being paranoid! I too have had a chat request from somebody whose profile I could not find. Bizarre, and such things just point to deception. The fact that they have not read your profile and are usually completely mismatched confirms this. Just be on your guard folks!
 ronnietat
Joined: 4/28/2012
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Posted: 5/17/2012 1:10:27 PM
lol...............................most are on their guards, i chat to anybody , if it get out of hand the block button is a great invention lol .No matter who or what they look like !!
 Stephanieplum2
Joined: 5/19/2011
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Posted: 5/17/2012 1:13:12 PM
Just after posting my last reply I had a proposition from a chap with no photo. He posted one to my profile. After chatting he admitted that he was married. Avoid 'naughtybuthonest' ladies!!!!
 ronnietat
Joined: 4/28/2012
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Posted: 5/17/2012 1:16:56 PM
Not forgettng the married women eh!!!
 lightstar1
Joined: 2/21/2012
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Posted: 5/17/2012 1:18:44 PM
Msg 12^^^^^^ Not to post usernames- get slapped wrist.....

I usually accept chat requests, I'm never surprised when they turn out to be some thin attempt at extortion or sexual wind-up (sigh), it's the internet, I long ago gave up on expecting anything else - come on someone, restore my faith in the human race!

 FuryanBabe
Joined: 5/1/2012
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Posted: 5/17/2012 1:46:34 PM
Msg 12.. Sorry, but is it just me? If you saw his username was as described (best not repeat it, in case I get a slap - but that name would automatically make me think married man or sex pest admitting he was one!), he propositioned you, had no photo.. yet you still chatted? Did I miss something? Weren't you were complaining about these type of people?
 soverncomfort
Joined: 11/29/2011
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Posted: 5/17/2012 1:52:17 PM
Msg4 ....probably scammers or spammers. MSN is full of it and really dont know why people still use it.

I myself wouldn't instigate chat with anyone just like that. As someone else said its an invasion of privacy if they dont know you. Besides i dont know where it is. And not overly bothered.
 Stephanieplum2
Joined: 5/19/2011
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Posted: 5/17/2012 3:34:29 PM
@furyanBabe, I hate to just click on 'no'. Maybe that is silly but I feel it is rude. I just send a quick message to explain why I am refusing. This particular time I suspected he was up to no good but didn't seem typical of the type. We exchanged a few words before he admitted he was married. No harm done but others may not be so careful.
 woz1968
Joined: 4/19/2012
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Posted: 5/17/2012 4:01:21 PM
My chat is turned off, the last thing i want is some random popping up on my profile requiring my immediate attention.....feck right off.
 FuryanBabe
Joined: 5/1/2012
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Posted: 5/18/2012 12:50:20 AM
I'm the same woz. And it slows down my laptop.. if I want to talk to someone they can message me a few sentences and make an effort :)
 x_kags_x
Joined: 3/1/2010
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Posted: 5/18/2012 1:09:38 AM
I find it quite amusing that all the men assume these people are hackers/ spammers etc (although some may well be). Believe me, 12 years of this cack tells me that most are sat with something hard in their hand waiting for someone to give them the green light! I guess women aren't so inclined to do this to men...
 __kerri__
Joined: 3/20/2012
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Posted: 5/18/2012 1:50:23 AM

I find it quite amusing that all the men assume these people are hackers/ spammers etc (although some may well be). Believe me, 12 years of this cack tells me that most are sat with something hard in their hand waiting for someone to give them the green light! I guess women aren't so inclined to do this to men...


I agree,most are just sad arses who have no social skills and the internet and dating sites have given them the tools to interact with people that they would never be able to otherwise

as for "foriegners" if someone can't tell that a profile or message has been whacked in an online translator then more fool them
 Marquis_de_Michaelmas
Joined: 10/23/2008
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Posted: 5/18/2012 2:04:05 AM
Turned my chat off! Too many unsolicited requests! Open a few out of curiosity to find to my horror I'm a faced with vast acres of cleavage that would not only take ones eyes out that would permanently cause brain damage! Sorry I am not a breast man! Flash ya bits else where please ladies! Not impressed!
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