| | Dreaming of a bright future?Page 1 of 1 | What if there were never going to be more jobs, and the game was to pauperise most of the people, through higher bills, from food to fuel. What would be the benefits?
Well killing the unproductive element in society, cannot be done through extermination camps, that idea is sadly unacceptable, despite its quick and attractive results.
So how can we exterminate, encourage to die prematurely, the unproductive. Well disease, malnourishment, hypothermia, are just a few of the elements having been considered. None of these provide the public with someone, or something to blame, which is the whole point. Extermination through neglect, is the new mantra for those deciding the longest financial depression in human history. Killing millions, and we have nearly 70 of them in the UK, will start slowly and gradually increase over the next decade, and it’s so easy, so predictable, that the obvious will never be suspected by anyone.
The first into the crematoriums will of course be pensioners, the old, who with cuts to care, health and other amenities they have worked for all their lives, will hasten the embers to become a furnace. Killing of these parasites first, will free housing, making renting much cheaper over the next decade, and with more housing, landlords will find rents forced to not increase. This will of course allow properties to be neglected, and let at lower rents, which are fantastic breeding grounds for disease, so the very young can succumb to unfortunate but predictable crematorium bliss. The savings to the Treasury coffers, will certainly please the banking sector, who we are all in debt to.
It’s a long term policy; nothing will happen tomorrow, but slowly and predictably the pieces are now in place for a population reduction. The first signs will be that the population is being sustained at a particular level, as in not increasing. This will be explained as personal choices, women delaying or just not becoming pregnant. There will be a slight increase in child mortality of course, but nothing to worry about.
Winter is a good time for larger and faster extinctions, as choices as to eating or heating will flummox most of the poor crusties. Well its choice, and we do live in a democracy, but more the method of death, and of course there is no one to blame. The cuts have just started, and they have a lot further to go, taxes, both direct and indirect, will help this process of pauperised extermination. The joke is no one can do anything to stop it, which is the point, and no one to blame either.
All I am attempting to do is plant this idea in people's memories, something someday you will wake up to, as it’s a slowly engineered extermination process. You might think this could not happen in the UK, as we are a democracy, well in name only. Sadly the UK is just one of many nations where this policy is being enacted. You see with a global population of 7 billion, a mechanism was needed to halt this growth, and this model, is far from new. It has been allowed to happen in Africa and other 3rd world countries for decades, where drugs costing pennies, some, just to make drinking water safe from disease, has not been used, allowing the frail, young and old, to, well you get it, die of NATURAL causes. War has its purposes these days, not as you might think killing terrorists, but allowing uranium shells, and bombs to pollute the lands, thus disrupting the breeding process. Well they have deformed children, who will not breed, which is the point, if one is patient, populations shrink naturally, well with a little help from certain elements of the corporate industrial sector.
You are considered to be expendable, there will never be jobs for all of you, and something has to be done. Fortunately the educational system has been completely dumbed down over the last few decades, thus ignorance is considered bliss for the masses, making it easier to use the media, to get the message that the government and authorities really care, while all the time creating greater neglect and austerity of course. You got it yet?
Remember it’s already well on its way, and when you are told through the media that the population is stabilising, and should hopefully starting to be noticeable in about 5 years, when the increase should have been checked, and as in not rising as fast.
We are in a depression, and despite all the fine talk, there is no new industry in the UK to soak up unemployment. The manufacturing base will continue to collapse. I dare not tell you the plans for the police to discourage dissent, as things get harder, or as the media call it "squeezed" but this is not something natural at all. It has been a long time in the planning, and you are the people that will experience increasing poverty, as the years go by, and it’s all because of the economic climate innit!??? So no one top blame there either. Well not exactly, but that is another part of the picture. | |
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Posted: 6/14/2012 3:17:03 AM |
Learn to Love my friend, then everything in the universe will be your friend
Tad ironic after that little rant on the "coming back" thread...
Sorry off the subject I know but in this case I think that can only be a good thing :-D | |
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Posted: 6/14/2012 3:22:37 AM | http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8940256
same person or plaguerised? | |
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Posted: 6/14/2012 3:34:39 AM | One of the reasons silly little girls get pregnant in the UK is that if for example the girl is 16 much of the cost falls upon the rest of society with regards benefits, healthcare etc. I never understand why for example my daughter had to take a student loan to better herself which was assessed on my income until she was 21 yet if she had chosen a diffeent route and got pregnant she would have been deemed an adult at 18 and have received support. (yes she knows which route she would rather haveand is fed up of people saying she was lucky to have a better life)
If for example you take China with its one child policy and Thailand a poor country you will see that people only breed if it can be afforded by the family as basically they are on their own support wise.
Nature has a way of limiting the population of animals due to food chain supplies. If there is no food the population dies.
Unfortunately development of medications and different food supplies has allowed the human population to expand at a tremendous rate.
Another human trait is desire. Somehow we are not happy with what we have and desire bigger houses which we decorate and throw out perfectly good items because it doesnt fit with decor or throw clothes out because they are not in fashion. As a result we are slaves to working instead of working just to feed ourselves plus buying replacements.
You only have to see the queues for ipods or the crowds on bank holidays buying new 3 piece suites instead of relaxing in the garden.
How would you define povery ? No flat screen TV or mobile phone ? Or no food. I wonder how many who plead poverty live in a house with a garden that could be converted to growing food like potatoes .
Somehow humans think human life is sacred. We are however only a species of animal and like most animals something will turn up that limits population whether it be war or disease such as the black death in the middle ages.
After all as a developed country we are often horrified by famines in poor countries and send aid which does nothing to really solve the natural process which of course is survival of the fittest.. | |
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Posted: 6/14/2012 3:34:39 AM | This makes no sense, the majority of European governments are actually trying to increase the population of their countries due to slowing birth rates.
The high population that we have is unsustainable and so they think they can supplement it with immigration as no government would want to wait 30 years for an ageing population to die off. Of course the majority of migrant cultures with high fertility rates that they target don't actually work, they just claim benefits and add to the problem.
The industry has cottoned on to migrant workers, basically it's all about greed and money, the less you pay workers, the more you profit. Supply and demand is king and with demand for jobs going up every year we are fast heading towards communism, where everybody is paid minimum wage. Economists warned about this when labour started it's immigration policy, but nobody listened, now we are paying the price.
Enjoy what you have because it won't last, once Turkey joins the EU this country will be swamped with tens of millions of people who will all need welfare, it's predicted to be the biggest migration in European history. By that time the conservatives will have been voted out and Labour will be back in, who will welcome them with open arms. Life in Britain will be very different and the welfare system will have to be changed considerably, the handouts will most likely change from money to rice, milk and bread, electricity rations and free water bills and not much else. Then there's the logistical issue, where are all these extra people going to live. The government has tried to address the problem in advance by getting house building going, but there's nowhere near enough houses being built, they've admitted it so hopefully they'll come up with something.
I personally think they should be building surf pods and bedsits rather than specced houses or flats as they are cheaper, smaller and can house more people per sq m. You can fit a family in a bedsit and a single person / couple in a surf pod. The migrant community live like this and the English people that are renting are going to have to learn to live like migrants themselfs. They will be forced to anyway as rents will sky rocket over the next decade. Supply and demand, the Turkish migration is going to produce a lot of millionaire landlords through rental income.
On a grand scale the Earth cannot support 7 billion people, there just isn't enough resources even with advances in GM crop cultivation and unless the west change it's population growth policy then we are all in big trouble. | |
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Posted: 6/14/2012 4:00:48 AM | This was one of the things I studied in college in the 70s.
I wrote a paper on it and at that time the population of the planet was 3 billion ish.
Yes advances in food production have sustained much of this but there has to be a limit.
For example cod and chips has been replaced by anything that swims and chips.
Basic maths tells us that if we breed at a greater rate than the previous generation then we will soon be living in the style of Hong Kong. When I visited there in 1984 they had just built a new estate. 20 blocks of flats, 20 storeys high, 20 flats to a floor. NO road !! Flats were tiny and when you walked past the noise was similar to an aviary with disturbed birds.
When Sunday came everyone went for a picnic. Every path, walkway over roads and green space was crammed. A sight to make you look in disbelief. So if the human race wants to be confined to tiny flats with a life akin to worker ants carry on breeding.
And for those who say the UK hasplenty of space think again. Building on land reduces the amount that can be used for food. A limit has to be reached. And remember the days when we thought China was overcrowded ? Our population density is now twice that of China.
One small point. Are humans the only species that will provide food outside the family unit ? I do know for example lions will kill and eat what they want and certain animals like wolves hunt in a pack but very few do inless you go down to the insect world such as bees and ants. | |
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Posted: 6/14/2012 4:12:23 AM | Species expand when it taps a new energy niche. Be it a new, futile land full of milk and honey or oil.
In the past 150 yrs population growth has exploded along with the availability of cheep, easy to get to energy in the form of oil.
As we've now past the point of peak(easy to get to) oil then of course, and unfortunately population is going to decline.
The decline will be as rapid as the rise as the energy to grow the crops and treat/ pump the clean water becomes more and more expensive with each passing year.
What we're stuck with is an economy that must grow by design to maintain the status quo, demanding more and more energy and a finite world that can't possibly provide it.
Only when an increasing number of individuals say fvck you to the status quo and starts living sustainably will the paradigm shift in a favourable way. | |
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Posted: 6/14/2012 8:16:14 AM | | i can see in the future the film Logans run will come true, and if someone doesn't do anything about immigration its all going to kick off can see the early signs of it. | |
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Posted: 6/14/2012 11:34:55 AM | So the intellects on this post ignore the subject matter which is not population growth at all, but the reverse, obviously did not bother to read much of the post, as assumptions are far more easy to flatter ones ego with.
Prattling on about teenage pregancy suggests Thatcher's deciples shouting the well worn mantra, of biggotry.
I proposed a very different story, one of population decrease, and the means throough which it will happen, as we cull the old and frail every winter to varying degrees (excuse the pun)
So its was not about immigration or teenage sex, thus those that proposed it was , please leave the class. | |
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Posted: 6/14/2012 1:04:20 PM | On Sheffield forum I am, he who sporadically pontificates, and there is a lot more of my nature, rants, concerns there, than on this rather airy-fairy, self absorbed, stuff on this forum, where reality is not a real issue, and the personal reigns supreme.
Just trying to see if there is any reality, actual free thinking people here, who like to look at the world and accept it for what it is, and MAYBE even discuss ways round problems that apparently govern us all. On the other hand, and talking of hands maybe the massage of mental masturbation is really what the majority really like to play. This personalised psychological addiction, does not surprise me, as its all the rage, thus we the British cannot have a proper grown up approach towards one of the most prolific and popular pastimes, child pornography and paedophilia, which is as all know firmly in the domain of the male of the socialised British species.
But that is a subject that on here would degenerate immediately into accusations and denials, and maybe immigrants introduced for good measure. So I just put my toes into the social waters to feel the capability of temperature variation prior to looking for intellectual stimulation, or foreplay depending on one’s humour index. | |
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Posted: 6/14/2012 1:36:22 PM |
So the intellects on this post ignore the subject matter which is not population growth at all, but the reverse, obviously did not bother to read much of the post
I feel bound to say that personally I found the post to be very difficult to read because whilst you use big words and lots of punctuation you actually put them all together quite badly so for me at least, it's a problem to decipher what you're on about. | |
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Posted: 6/14/2012 2:12:21 PM |
So the intellects on this post ignore the subject matter which is not population growth at all, but the reverse ...... I proposed a very different story, one of population decrease yes, though to have a population large enough to decrease it needs to have increased considerably to require such reductions as you proposed we imagine?
Re pontificating; if the cap fits | |
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Posted: 6/14/2012 2:24:04 PM | "I feel bound to say that personally I found the post to be very difficult to read because whilst you use big words and lots of punctuation you actually put them all together quite badly so for me at least, it's a problem to decipher what you're on about."
Yep! | |
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Posted: 6/17/2012 11:07:43 AM | | Possible solution to the population problem. Sterilise all new born’s over a five year period – worldwide, should decrease the population considerably. | |
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