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Multivitamins can be expensive and before I plunk down some cash, I'm wondering if any of you have some advice.
For reference, I'm 30 years old, work out with high intensity cardio and weight or interval training 5 or more days per week plus I hike/bike/walk the dog/etc. each day.
I eat mostly vegetables and legumes but I do eat meat and grains in limited quantities and cheat on Saturdays. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance
Posted: 6/14/2012 1:45:57 PM
|I take a multivitamin every day, it's on this top 10 tips for healthy living list - http://www.medicine.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/band78/b78-3.html#Heading5|
I buy own brand ones at the supermarket (Tesco), works out around a couple of pence per day.
Posted: 6/15/2012 8:47:05 AM
|I used to spend a fortune on supplements but I've streamlined it and basically stick to a good multivitamin, fish oil caps and Biotin for hair and nails.|
My problem is I forget to take them, so I bought a decorative jar and I just dump all three in the same jar, they look different enough that I dont get them confused. Having them out and on display reminds me to take them.
Posted: 6/15/2012 2:40:12 PM
|I don't like multis, they have such a minimal amount of everything, especially the particular ones I really need. So i just get those 3 supplements separately and i get enough of the rest in my foods i eat.|
That's what i do econo, lay them out for the day. I have to see them regularly to remember.
Posted: 6/15/2012 2:56:33 PM
Multivitamins can be expensive and before I plunk down some cash, I'm wondering if any of you have some advice.
Develop technology to extract all that money you are pissing away (literally), and then you can buy what ever you want.
If you are eating right you are getting pretty much everything you need, if you are lacking in one area then supplement it.
Posted: 6/15/2012 6:31:28 PM
|I'm fit and healthy. Run most days and hit the gym a few times a week|
Vitamin supplement consumption.....zero. I eat fruits, nuts and vegetables.
Supplements have more of a role in women's health (Iron,calcium, B12)
Posted: 6/16/2012 3:18:51 AM
|If you are working out regularly your body will be depleted of essential vit&mins, therefor supplementation will assist in replenishing these.|
A multi-vit and 3+6+9 omega oil are two supps i would always suggest people take.
A balanced diet should never be over looked but supplementation will be beneficial.
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Posted: 6/16/2012 3:59:21 AM
As many antioxidants as u can stand
One 82 mg aspirin or equiv
Flax seed oil
Posted: 6/16/2012 4:03:28 AM
|Oh and people are right about water soluble vitamins, in so much as your body excretes anything not needed.....ie, b vitamins, niacin, riboflavin...excess vitamin c past 60 mg a day....so look at the previous list I compiled....just be careful not to over do it.....fat soluble toxicity can cause organ damage|
Posted: 6/16/2012 5:26:30 AM
|Not big on meat myself ST|
You can go broke trying to supplement, so vary them is my advise.
Buy online and get trusted brands.
Get a good multi that has alpha lipoic acid ,a strong antioxidant that passes the blood brain barrier.
Your ACES are a must.A, C, E and Selenium ( Carlson makes a good one)
I take C through out the day myself..Great anti stress vitamin along with the Bs.
So maybe a B with C stress complex. Twinlab is a good brand it's called B Stress complex lol
Omega 3's and MCT fats like coconut oil
I would check and see that you get enough amino acids
I vary my amino acids depending on what I am eating/not eating that week and i do not have to buy them but once every 3 months.
l Arginine................. plentiful in peanut butter
l Carnetine.If you don't eat much meat you may want to look into this and Taurine
You may be getting enough but check your foods and see.
Sulfur... cabbage , garlic, onions..I still take extra in supplements as MSM
Saw palmeto with pygeum..great for" mens" health.
Most peoples needs vary.
But getting the basics covered you may need 2 different multis PLUS
Maybe not every day..but get them in.
Thats important for men too and needs to be taken separate.
Calcium should be in citrate form or another easily absorbable one and D should be D3
Some great secure sites are out there with good deals often half price and free shipping.
If you want the 3 I use ..HOLLA
Must haves for me minus the saw palmetto/pygeum
A multi with the antioxidants being the priority
A multi with B complex as the priority
Cal Mag D3
A good fat ( salmon, flax or krill)
Sulfur ( soil/water is so depleted you cant get enough in your diet these days imo)
Food is seasonal so we can supplement "seasonal" IF that makes sense.
I agree with AA to an extent but our soil/water supply is not what it was.
We also have to count in pesticide and environmental pollutants, maybe a few bad habits or like many of us that do not eat much meat or certain foods we should ect.
Posted: 6/16/2012 6:17:41 AM
|Good grief stop buying into these marketed 'needs'...just eat whole foods.|
I'm in my mid 50's...excellent vital signs. Excellent blood test results. Zero health issues. I run .go to the gym, play soccer.
I'm a vegetarian....zero supplements of any kind. Save your money and use it to eat 'real' food..
Posted: 6/16/2012 6:49:50 AM
|No vitamins for me. They aren't called "bedpan bullets" for no reason.|
I do however eat some supplements like spirulina, eleuthero, and several
others on and off... all whole foods more or less.
I don't eat meat. I haven't supplemented with L-Carnosine but
I probably should. So should meat eaters for that matter. It's
said to be good for pliable, smooth skin so the ladies might want
to take note.
Posted: 6/16/2012 9:36:16 AM
|Ive looked into this. there is no evidence that people who work out need extra vitamins. people who work out tend to eat better food and already get a lot of vitamins. they have never been shown to make us bigger stronger or faster.|
if you eat mostly veggies, vitamin b12 may help. we have several years of storage but if you dont eat meat ect, eventually we run out of it
here is a site that might help you sort fact from fiction
hope that helps
Posted: 6/16/2012 3:47:29 PM
|I eat B12 too. Just no multivitamins. Plenty of raw foods though.|
Posted: 6/17/2012 1:09:16 AM
|Armor-v from body builder its like 20 bucks for 120 capsules. No protein but there mainly for men. Can probably find something suites a woman on there as well.|
Posted: 6/17/2012 1:04:52 PM
|My diet is based around whole plant foods and raw as much as possible, but I do eat some meat and very small amounts of junk food and whole grains to reward myself for the hard work at the gym and other strenuous exercise I do every day.|
The reason I asked about vitamins is I don't feel like a multi every day can harm me, and it might help make up for nutrients that could be missing in my diet due to a variety of factors like poor soils, sitting in the fridge a little too long, long shipping times to stores, etc...
As I said, thanks everyone!
Posted: 6/17/2012 2:01:19 PM
|No significant amounts of nutrients are lost because of those variables....cooking has more on an impact but even there 'it depends'. We get more than enough vitamins,etc. if eating whole foods|
As for the junkfood reward...I walk home from the gym and will munch on some higher quality nuts, berries, etc. A few things that might cost a bit more but are a bit of a treat. After a hike I often crave as sweet, juicy navel orange...no idea why...and usually have one in the car waiting for me.
Anyways, if you get a craving for junkfood, first eat a high calorie snack like nuts, scarf down half a water melon, etc. THEN eat your junkfood if you still want it. At least youll probably have one donut instead of three.
Posted: 6/17/2012 4:54:13 PM
|Ya I eat a lot of plant based foods mostly because I am allergic to a lot of the junk food or fat foods such as meats. But I take multi vitamins and they really do make you feel better. I have tons of more energy and feel healthier.|
Posted: 6/17/2012 5:35:37 PM
The reason I asked about vitamins is I don't feel like a multi every day can harm me, and it might help make up for nutrients that could be missing in my diet due to a variety of factors like poor soils, sitting in the fridge a little too long, long shipping times to stores, etc..
Fair enough, as it is no surprise as with some of the folks here, who think you should still taken 15 to 30 supplements extra a day, is a bit much,imo .
But if you have a septic field, your lawn will love you cuz,with all that extra protein will be flushed down in what your body can't use. yippie
But have no fear, as it will go as a 10/5 10 fertilize that green lawn of yours will nicely use. lol
imo,To live & have a balance diet,wonderful!
But as some will still say you need to take this & that too...............hummm,
[I wonder what where business is in real life?????? Or are they that nutritional deficient? 24/7....365 days a year?
And this taken from Organicsoul......
The single best suggestion is to get your nutrients from food. Simply eat more fruits, vegetables, and nuts. All doctors will tell you this is the best source. However, if you’re missing out on some vitamins, before you go buy seven bottles of assorted pills, talk to your doctor. Generally, though, one multivitamin with an omega-3 supplement would be only things you need, if you even need them.
Just remember what Hippocrates said, “Let food be thy medicine and let thy medicine be thy food.”
Posted: 6/17/2012 7:30:00 PM
|Sciencetrekker, I hear you loud and clear. |
I eat raw nuts every day and lots of high fiber snacks like unsweetened/unsulfured dried fruit, apples, carrot sticks and seasonal fruit like cherries and berries which are abundant right now. I confine junk food to one day per week, and it's usually no more than some whole grain pancakes with real maple syrup and nitrate free bacon for breakfast (at least there's some minerals in the syrup haha) or a tort I like to make with lots of real fruit and a nut based crust, or some other fruit/nut dessert.
My wife is in as good of shape as me, and she doesn't take any vitamins. Only a little glucosamine because she thinks it helps her knees (old track injury from HS).
Posted: 6/17/2012 9:11:26 PM
|I take AREDS advanced formula, 120% DV magnesium, a supplement that contains Omega 3, 6 & 9 and a testosterone injection of Nebido. You can google AREDS to see what is said about this formula. |
American diets are typically deficient in magnesium, and if I don't take extra magnesium I get muscles cramps in my back, legs, abdominal almost every night. The magnesium also helps with reducing DOMS after heavy weight lifting. These cramps started when I was about 45. My mother had been getting leg cramps to a lesser degree, when she starting taking magnesium, those went away. Her Doctor had previously made the assumption these cramps must be PAD, which is typical in people over 80. IMO Doctors usually assume everyone is about the same.
But whole grain products, green leafy vegetables, nuts, and beans are rich in magnesium, so that maybe enough for those who eat high qualities.
My mother had father both had age related macular degeneration. Studies indicated that once diagnosed with AMD, high levels of antioxidants and zinc can reduce the risk of developing advanced age-related macular degeneration (AMD) by about 25 percent.
The study did not indicate that AREDS helped to prevent AMD. But this is a disease that develops slowly, I don't think they can do a large enough study over a long enough time to prove whether it helps prevent AMD or not.
And in any case the antioxidants and zinc might help with other degenerate diseases. I have had 1 mild cold in the last 7 years, that it for being ill, so it could be helping there also. I don't take any prescription meds, blood pressure low, work out a hour a day, (knock on wood), never been in the hospital.
The National Eye Institute (NEI), part of the Federal government's National Institutes of Health published the results of the Age-Related Eye Disease Study (AREDS) in the fall of 2001. AREDS was year multi-center, nearly 4000 person, double-blind placebo clinical trial designed to research the effects of antioxidants and zinc on macular health. The AREDS results proved that patients taking a certain formula of antioxidant vitamins plus zinc were more likely to retain their macular health. AREDS recommended a specific formulation including levels and types of betacarotene, vitamin C, E, zinc, and copper. In addition to other nutrients the AREDS recommended formula is found in only two daily Viteyes® AREDS Advanced capsules.
ADVANCED means it also contains these carotenoids which for which the Gov has not yet completed their studies of. But other studies show it helps with eye health.
Recent studies such as the Lutein Antioxidant Supplementation Trial (LAST)* have suggested that 10mg of lutein daily, an antioxidant carotenoid found in fruits and green leafy vegetables as well as the macular region of the healthy retina, might have a significant effect on the health of the macula. Further trials such as the Carotenoids in Age-Related Eye Disease Study (CAREDS)** found a lower risk of deteriorated macular health.
Zeaxanthin, like lutein, is not made by the body and high levels can only be obtained from supplements. Like lutein, zeaxanthin is found in the macula, however it is much more concentrated in the center part of the macula compared to lutein. Viteyes® AREDS Advanced contains OPTISHARP™ brand zeaxanthin from DSM (formerly Roche Vitamins).
Posted: 6/18/2012 4:40:34 AM
|One junk food meal a week is fine .|
I find I cant do an entire day of junk though..I get junk hangover
Have your junk.Whoppers are my fav esp after a night of dancing and being out late.
Its not like you are addicted to junk.
Its great you started eating right and have educated yourself young enough to impact the deterioration process.
Also look into the ALIVE series of vitamins "whole foods energizers"..read the contents and decide if thats enough for you.
Posted: 6/29/2012 9:04:22 AM
|If I don't take a multivitamin every day I feel really tired. Does anyone know anything about interaction between relavan(nasaid) and Fish oil plus Co-Q-10. I take the relavan (nambumetone)in the morning and the others lately but it really slows me down and I don't feel like myself.|
Posted: 6/29/2012 11:22:34 AM
Eating or not eating a multivitamin shouldn't impact you on that day. You have some medical issue if missing a multivitamin makes you really tired. A single jelly bean or bite of an apple would have more effect on the energy level of a healthy person.