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| | Human rights atrocities in Canada?Page 1 of 4 (1, 2, 3, 4) | This is what gets Canada in trouble with the UN...worse trouble than countries like Zimbabwe, Pakistan and Syria....
Bill 78, is an emergency law passed on 18 May 2012 by the National Assembly of Quebec, Canada. The law restricts freedom of assembly, protest, or picketing on or near university grounds, and anywhere in Quebec without prior police approval.
Our best and brightest students in Montreal have been on the rampage lately because their tuition is too high. Consequently the above law was passed. Which consequently draws the strongest language yet from the UN...
GENEVA, June 17 – Canada will be put in the company of some of the world’s worst abusers of human rights tomorrow when the UN’s highest human rights official expresses “alarm” over Quebec’s new law on demonstrations during her opening address to a meeting of the 47-nation UN Human Rights Council, revealed the Geneva-based monitoring group UN Watch, which obtained an advance copy of her speech. Other states on the UN watchlist include Syria, Pakistan and Zimbabwe.
“Moves to restrict freedom of assembly continue to alarm me, as is the case in the province of Quebec in Canada in the context of students’ protests,” UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay will say tomorrow, according to her draft speech.
The rights czar reserves her sharpest language for Canada. While Pillay cites only two other countries in the world for restrictions on freedom of assembly—expressing “concern” about Russia, and “deep concern” for Eritrea—only Canada provokes her far stronger “alarm.”
So we've "alarmed" a "Czar"? Here's a slice of Zimbabwe....
People in Zimbabwe suffer state-sponsored intimidation, arbitrary arrest, torture, and even killings. Supporters of the political opposition, human rights defenders and the independent media are often targeted for attack or other mistreatment. These human rights violations happen in the context of severe economic decline, food shortages and mass forced evictions.
Here's what happens to you if you protest in Syria....
The government has been engaged in a brutal crackdown against demonstrators involving commission of crimes against humanity, such as arbitrary detention, torture, and the killings of thousands of civilians.The crackdown has escalated into indiscriminate military assaults on residential areas and has led to a dire humanitarian situation. Thousands of Syrians have sought refuge in neighboring countries and many more are internally displaced. After months of peaceful protests, some opposition members have also carried out abuses like kidnapping and torture. The government has enacted some reforms, but the ongoing bloody repression indicates its resistance to real reforms that might lead to true political participation, free expression and assembly.
While I agree that Canada should be held to a higher standard, it does make me wonder what the issue is with the UN and what credibility it has when chosing its battles. | |
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| Human rights atrocities in Canada?
Posted: 6/19/2012 6:25:38 PM |
Our best and brightest students in Montreal have been on the rampage lately because their tuition is too high.
Not really the best and brightest. Most of them are the loser students enrolled in stupid programs like womens studies and liberal arts. The really smart students enrolled in law, medicine and engineering voted against the strike, but many were prevented from going to class by the Marxist wannabe's. | |
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Posted: 6/19/2012 6:25:44 PM | | It's stuff like that that has made the UN Human Rights branch ridiculous. I'm not a fan of Bill 78, but it's hardly on a par with the truly repressive regimes around the world. Unfortunately because the organization has the potential to actually bring light to real atrocities, countries that commit them make sure that it's headed by someone who will turn a blind eye to their actions and only scrutinize liberal democracies. | |
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| Human rights atrocities in Canada?
Posted: 6/19/2012 6:35:23 PM | Charest went about it all wrong.
The majority of Quebeckers are opposed to the strike. All the police had to do was enforce the existing laws, and arrest students that are breaking the law and violating court orders not to block roads and campuses. | |
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| Human rights atrocities in Canada?
Posted: 6/19/2012 8:28:42 PM |
Human rights atrocities in Canada?
I know eh, my maple syrup tap has been broken for three weeks.
Our best and brightest students in Montreal have been on the rampage lately because their tuition is too high. Consequently the above law was passed. Which consequently draws the strongest language yet from the UN...
No, some have been protesting that their tuition will be going up over the next few years as they currently have the lowest tuition rates in the country by far.
What you also have is a bunch of ***holes who just want to rebel and are looking for an excuse to do so.
The problem is separating the two and not getting them mixed up. | |
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Posted: 6/19/2012 10:32:30 PM | Bill 78, is an emergency law passed on 18 May 2012 by the National Assembly of Quebec, Canada. The law restricts freedom of assembly, protest, or picketing on or near university grounds, and anywhere in Quebec without prior police approval.
In the U.S., laws can place reasonable restrictions on the time, place, and manner of speech without violating the First Amendment. You don't have a constitutional claim because the cops arrest you for driving a sound truck through a residential neighborhood at 3 a.m., warning everyone within earshot that the end is near. And you can be prohibited from walking around a military base calling for disarmament. But I never heard of prohibiting orderly demonstrations on public land on or near a university campus.
I've read how some poor Muslim or homosexual or whatever protected minority Canada is fawning over at the time can go to some high panjandrum and accuse a person of saying something insensitive that made him feel all icky. And then the powers that be will hale the miscreant into some kangaroo court to explain himself, or else. So this bill doesn't surprise me at all. Neither does the fact some sanctimonious U.N. commissioner would presume to condemn it.
If Canada wants to muzzle everyone who says something that doesn't meet the official standard of correctness, let it go ahead. Send the transgressors to Khmer Rouge-style re-education camps out on the backside of beyond, for all I care. What I've seen here makes me believe a lot of Canadians don't much like free speech anyway. But he!! will freeze over before the U.N. tells this country to do anything. If Ms. Whatsherface wants to scold the U.S., she can take her commission and shove it. The U.N. wouldn't even exist if most people in the U.S. decided it was no longer useful. | |
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Posted: 6/20/2012 4:01:33 AM | "... without prior police approval."
It´s not uncommon in many countries to ask for permission for public gathering and march in protest.
It´s not prohibited.
And certainly, it´s not like in Cuba, where you can be arrested just for think about it. | |
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Posted: 6/20/2012 4:28:30 AM | I always knew the great and good folk of the UN would catch up with those Canadian b*stards sooner or later.
And we all know how effective and unblemished that organisation is! | |
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Posted: 6/21/2012 10:14:02 PM | The United Nimrods are obsolete and must be purged from human existence. Canada should be the first to give them the boot. 
what the issue is with the UN and what credibility it has when chosing its battles
UN credibility is zero. It's a cushy make-work project for elitists who have never held a real job in the real world. | |
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A_Gent
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| Human rights atrocities in Canada?
Posted: 6/22/2012 4:09:36 AM | Our best and brightest students in Montreal have been on the rampage lately because their tuition is too high.
I'd like to see you explain that one.
C'mon... lay out the facts. And don't forget to give a fair comparison of how tuition rates in Quebec are still the lowest in Canada.
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Posted: 6/22/2012 5:38:07 AM |
I'd like to see you explain that one.
Not sure what you want explained other than my failed attempt at internet irony. No, I really don't believe that our "best and brightest" are the ones "rampaging". "Spoiled and incompetent" might have been better but being direct isn't my forte.
I always knew the great and good folk of the UN would catch up with those Canadian b*stards sooner or later.
Oh yeah? Why don't you come here and say that. We'll place you in one of our adequate housing, high rise gulags with barely a city view and only cover your basic medical needs. We won't even cover your optical and dental anymore. Not so tough now are you? (again...all that was sarcasm bordering on irony, bordering on good natured fun with recent news as its source. just email for further clarification) | |
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Posted: 6/22/2012 9:50:08 AM | Sorry
has anyone seen what the cops are doing to the protesters!
and its just too bad if you happen to be around, when they (the cops) go 'gas' crazy, several bystanders, have been, gassed and pepper sprayed, a lot of people have been put into the hospital, some may have suffered permanent damage to their health
in quebec, several years ago, the police where so brutal,I saw it for myself,I could hardly believe, I was in canada,
same thing in Toronto, hundreds arrested,beaten, gassed!
here in windsor, during the OAS, meeting, the police, where beating and arresting, high school kids, who were not even close to the meeting venue
We Canadians think,the world does not notice, the unjust, abuse of power that now has become common place
well its high time, we get knocked down from our high horse!
hopefully, it will, start a debate, do we want to be free, or, just free when it is ok with the government, and big buisiness | |
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Posted: 6/22/2012 1:45:33 PM | has anyone seen what the cops are doing to the protesters!
The ones wearing disguises and carrying smoke bombs?
These people are just out for excitement,just like the idiots that rioted in Vancouver over a hockey game.
These people that go out to protest everything need a life.Or a job.
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Posted: 6/22/2012 1:49:19 PM | .
But I never heard of prohibiting orderly demonstrations on public land on or near a university campus.
They were not orderly demonstrations.Hooded hooligans were using the crowds as cover....property was damaged. | |
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Posted: 6/22/2012 2:19:33 PM | The UN has also said North Korea has a model of health care to be envied by much of the rest of the world.
so good doctors & nurses. but starving to death is 'acceptable'? WTF? | |
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Posted: 6/22/2012 4:04:50 PM |
Oh yeah? Why don't you come here and say that. We'll place you in one of our adequate housing, high rise gulags with barely a city view and only cover your basic medical needs. We won't even cover your optical and dental anymore. Not so tough now are you? (again...all that was sarcasm bordering on irony, bordering on good natured fun with recent news as its source. just email for further clarification)
As an Australian I pretty much get irony OMG...lol
As people and societies Australia and Canada are remarkably similar eh? | |
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Posted: 6/22/2012 4:14:37 PM |
As people and societies Australia and Canada are remarkably similar eh?
You guys have more liver disease from partying.
Just wait till the U.N catches wind of you guys planning to force people to go work in the NW mines for a paycheck instead of sitting on their asses. | |
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Posted: 6/22/2012 4:49:21 PM | I live in Montreal. The cops have been going easy.
Students broke a court order not to prevent other students from attending classes. Only 1/3 of students support the strike, and these activists have been blocking campuses and classrooms in an attempt to prevent other students from going to class.
Student groups also blocked bridges during rush hour, threw smoke bombs in the metro (subway) and blocked several government buildings and other buildings. Now several of my acquaintances have been trapped inside of their office during these demonstrations, and this afternoon, once again I was stuck in traffic for several hours because students were marching down Sherbrooke St. for the umpteent time.
The police have been too soft. Passing a special law was entirely the wrong approach. What should have been done is immediately arrest anyone throwing stones, interfering with pedestrians or traffic in any way, and detain them indefinitely under the War Measures Act. Then at the next demonstration, go out and arrest some more. Until all the hotheads are locked up. | |
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Posted: 6/22/2012 5:00:38 PM | | Bill 78 was the wrong approach, but invoking the War Measures Act is the right one? WTF? I'm pretty sure the War Measures Act doesn't exist any more, but the name of the Act should give you a hint that it's not meant to deal with some college kids messing up the morning commute. | |
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Posted: 6/22/2012 5:12:29 PM | This shit's been going on well over four months now. Businesses who have nothing to do with this are losing money because tourists are afraid to come to Montreal. Several events have had to be cancelled because students threatened to cause trouble.
One of my employees, a student from Ontario, had to cancel several courses because he was unable to attend class due to the protests. Courses for which he paid several thousand dollars as an out of province student, not to mention what he spent on rent and other expenses. Another students I spoke with had to extend her lease by several months and turn down a job offer because the summer semester was cancelled and she now has to come back in September to finish her degree.
The fact of the matter is if these students can't protest in a civil manner and choose to engage in criminal and terrorist behaviour, then they need to be handled like terrorists, and locked up for the duration of the protest. | |
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Posted: 6/23/2012 1:21:27 AM | the protests are , not riots
they have a cause, and want to voice it
they are not terrorists, or doing it for fun
either we live in freedom or we just do not!
kind of sort of freedom should not be an option
as for civil manners, do you really think, taking the right to manifest a people frustration, is civil???
making criminals out of people, for voicing their concerns....
the cops, are very brutal
its a city, people not even involved are being hurt, damaged, brutalized
some of you just don't get it, the UN, the whole world is!
Canada, is not a 'nice' country anymore | |
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| Human rights atrocities in Canada?
Posted: 6/23/2012 6:32:21 AM |
the protests are , not riots
they have a cause, and want to voice it
Are you for real? Their tuition is too high. That's not a "cause". It's a complete and total embarassment. I'm ashamed to be even remotely associated by country with people who throw hissy fits over their priviledge. Even if it was a cause there are several legal means to animate their "struggle". Are you thinking about the g-20 riots? You can't possibly be thnking about Montreal. You can't possibly agree with taking away other people's right to carry on business, attend classes and and live safely. There is just simply no way you can justify this. | |
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A_Gent
| | Joined: 8/18/2011
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| Human rights atrocities in Canada?
Posted: 6/23/2012 8:08:12 AM |
the protests are , not riots
they have a cause, and want to voice it
they are not terrorists, or doing it for fun
Sadly, people in the demonstrations started throwing rocks, breaking windows, starting fires.... no excuses can suffice. No tolerance is necessary.
Perhaps some were students, perhaps some were imbedded hooligans... the sort who go about looking for demonstrations to incite into riots and use it as a cover for their own antisocial behaviours..... if the students don't like it and want to be taken half way seriously.... police themselves and turn over the law breakers to the authorities. | |
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Posted: 6/23/2012 11:28:50 AM | I've read a number of articles about this and am left with one thought. Actions have consequences. People take no responsibility for the fact that the constant violent protesting is what forced the government's hand in this matter. In Canada we have the right to peaceful protest yet some have felt it was their right to act violently and do whatever they wanted. Others have stood by and watched this happen and did nothing. If you keep poking the bear, eventually that bear is going to react. This situation is nothing more than the bear reacting.
I watched what happened at the G20 in Toronto and saw very similar things. A small group of people decided to act violently and thousands of other watched and did nothing. They enabled the violence by sitting back and doing nothing. I watched as people at Queens Park turned themselves into human shields, and protect the getaway of the criminals, because they felt they had the right to be there. And then they were surprised at the heavy handed response by the police (who up until that point had done a fantastic job of facilitating peaceful protests for 3 days).
The protestors brought all this on themselves. Maybe next time they'll think about the potential consequences of their actions. Who am I kidding, we don't do that in our society these days. It's alays somebody else's fault. In this case in's the big mean government. | |
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Posted: 6/23/2012 1:00:21 PM | you people are just full of it
I am willing to bet those of you, that think NAKED PROTESTERS, started violence against the cops, are ...,
I just do not want to use the word 'stupid',so I am willing to bet that none of you have been to a major protest , or even vote!
as for the G20, sorry pal, but nearly all of those arrested have been CLEARED, by the courts
in Quebec city, several people, who were not even involved in anything, just sitting at home, where seriously, injured, by all the gas, as put in the hospital!
I was there, I could not believe the brutality, with which the police, started beating, university, students,boxing them in,gassing then, pepper spraying them,, these kids were just sitting down, and singing
It really pisses me off, that there are people, out there, that do not, or can not think for themselves
and seem to have an idea of what happened by news media, and probably a lot of beer
what happened in Toronto, is a national shame!, the cops, that were involved in the arrests, should be thrown out of there jobs and charged!they are acting more like common gang members,rather then law enforcement officers
The papers all full of it!
Do you people think, that it is ,just fine that The whole world is telling CANADA that there is something very, very wrong, with our system,
or do you just think the UNITED NATIONS, ,just has it out for us!!
why do you think there is a global plot against our country?
one thing is true, actions do have conequenses
and one of them is the ALARM expressed by the world, and the UN
I am ashed to see my country, now in the company of some of the world most criminal,countries
why are you not????!!!
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