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| | Scar Tattoos?Page 1 of 3 (1, 2, 3) | Hey guys, I've been interested in getting a few tattoos for a while now, but I don't really like the ink style. I've always preferred "natural" things so I've been considering getting scar tattoos instead. Unfortunately, Google hasn't been that helpful. Does anyone know of a forum or website I can go to for more information or anything that I can use to find a legit shop that specializes in it?
I'm not interested in intricate designs or anything that would be better in ink, just a few symbols that hold importance to me. | |
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Posted: 6/25/2012 2:33:39 AM | Did you know that you will cut out a significant percentage of women that will date you if you start scarring up or tatooing your body? Create a better chance for romance and don't mutilate yourself narrowing your options. Most women I know do not consider tattoos sexy or attractive. More like stupid markers.
Just because something is in fashion does not make it a good choice. | |
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Posted: 6/25/2012 3:12:43 AM |
Did you know that you will cut out a significant percentage of women that will date you if you start scarring up or tatooing your body?
That is one of the advantages of getting a tattoo. It is easier to screen out women who would waste your time.
Most women I know do not consider tattoos sexy or attractive.
There are other women who you do not know.
More like stupid markers.
It is a personality marker. It is a skin marker. A tattoo has a lot of meaning associated with it. A tattoo is art. | |
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Posted: 6/25/2012 7:21:21 AM | | I flat out hate tattoos. Why the heck would someone want to draw and write all over their body? You see guys that have women on their arms and other stuff on their chest but did they ever think how saggy and baggy their tatts would look when they get old and their skin droops, sags and stretches and rarely is the ink quality as I see a lot of tatts that are dull ugly blue. lol ugly at best. Anyways, I was taught as a child not to write on myself with an ink pen. lol and here you have adult people having permanent stuff (permanent for the most part), drawn and written all over them. Sleaves are just downright nasty as are tatts on the neck, face, teardrops at the corner of the left eye and such. I don't have the need to use my body as a billboard and show off to people stupid crap that no one is interested in anyways other than yourself. Not to mention it costs money to do this where and a lot of people have tatts they could never afford to begin with. Tatts are crap and women that have tramp stamps ... well, the name "tramp stamp" says it all right there. It's not attractive to see a woman bend down and expose her stamp and thong undies all in the same bend. It just looks sooo trashy because it is and speaks to the character of that person that I feel badly for. Done only to attract. Sad they need that type of attention. | |
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Posted: 6/25/2012 7:54:31 AM | ""Did you know that you will cut out a significant percentage of women that will date you if you start scarring up or tatooing your body? Create a better chance for romance and don't mutilate yourself narrowing your options. Most women I know do not consider tattoos sexy or attractive. More like stupid markers.
Just because something is in fashion does not make it a good choice.""
The OP is 23 and tattoo's are their thing right now so it won't cut out a "significant percentage of women" that will date him. Maybe a few, but that's it. And, it will narrow his options slightly.
"Most women I know..." like this 23 year old will be chasing you (and me) and your old broad friends. He's after the 19 to 25 crowd that have tattoos, scar tattoos, etc., not us old broad with wrinkles and age spots as "markers".
The thing about being young is that you do silly things like this to make yourself an individual, which is laughable because 75% of folks the same age are doing the same thing. The thing is, OP, give it some serious thought before jumping into something you may have for a long, long time. | |
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Posted: 6/25/2012 8:13:17 AM | Oooo, I've just had a wee google thingy.
Scarifiaction works well with designs from nature, eh?
http://excerptz.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/scarification.jpg | |
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Posted: 6/25/2012 8:40:28 AM | this is one of the perks of the forums, being able to get feedback on topics that are important to you.
tattoos and scars are permanent... make your choices carefully.
i have several square feet of tattoos, but with a tee shirt on, they are not visable. people do label and associate ink and scars in certain negative ways. other people's opinions are none of my business. that said.... i still have to do business and deal with folks on a daily basis.
word about scars:
different methods cause different kinds of scars. what kind of marks do you want to carry around with you?
burns tend to leave pinkish, mottled skin. branding is done without fine details and easily misplaced, ill healed.
cuts can be of many different variety, depending what's doing the cutting, healing proccess, even sun exposure...
sharp, dull, tearing, shallow, deep.... the choices are endless.
the whole modification process can be spiritual(enter gasps and whispers of blastphamy)- so it is a personal choice that few can understand and none that have not experienced it... judge not lest...
if you are not 100% about what you want or where you want to put it- hold off. think about the long term. many 50 y.o. were not destined to see 30.
maybe consider getting your mods organically. go break your arm or start picking fights with bouncers... scars are tattoos with better stories. maybe you're just looking to break out of a mold or spice your life up in a way. try some fights or get on a cycle first. those will likely lead to marks you'll have a memory that goes with. i'm not joking in the slightest. maybe it's your activities that need modification not your skin. | |
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Posted: 6/25/2012 11:18:41 AM |
like this 23 year old will be chasing you (and me) and your old broad friends. He's after the 19 to 25 crowd that have tattoos, scar tattoos, etc., not us old broad with wrinkles and age spots as "markers".
I think I'm offended. Some tatts look good, others are gross. I know someone who recently got white tattoos on his arm and it looks pretty cool. We have to be ourselves, yes? If you're into body art then that's a form of self expression. | |
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Posted: 6/25/2012 12:29:54 PM | Wow, I can't believe the amount of people that went on a tangent in this thread. Listen, your opinions are your own, but I didn't ask what your thoughts were on them. I simply asked for any possible leads on where I could find more information because Google was doing a "bleh" job. As for your assumptions that I'm doing it for "attention" I just want to strike that down by saying the locations I want to get the tattoos at are nowhere near visible in daily life.
The message you are replying to: Posted By: billingsmason on 6/25/2012 10  28 AM Subject: Scar Tattoos? Message: this is one of the perks of the forums, being able to get feedback on topics that are important to you. tattoos and scars are permanent... make your choices carefully. i have several square feet of tattoos, but with a tee shirt on, they are not visable. people do label and associate ink and scars in certain negative ways. other people's opinions are none of my business. that said.... i still have to do business and deal with folks on a daily basis. word about scars: different methods cause different kinds of scars. what kind of marks do you want to carry around with you? burns tend to leave pinkish, mottled skin. branding is done without fine details and easily misplaced, ill healed. cuts can be of many different variety, depending what's doing the cutting, healing proccess, even sun exposure... sharp, dull, tearing, shallow, deep.... the choices are endless. the whole modification process can be spiritual(enter gasps and whispers of blastphamy)- so it is a personal choice that few can understand and none that have not experienced it... judge not lest... if you are not 100% about what you want or where you want to put it- hold off. think about the long term. many 50 y.o. were not destined to see 30. maybe consider getting your mods organically. go break your arm or start picking fights with bouncers... scars are tattoos with better stories. maybe you're just looking to break out of a mold or spice your life up in a way. try some fights or get on a cycle first. those will likely lead to marks you'll have a memory that goes with. i'm not joking in the slightest. maybe it's your activities that need modification not your skin.
Thanks I appreciate the feedback. I'm actually planning to wait a few more years until my body settles out (I'm working out a lot nowadays), but I'm set on two locations right now - dead center in the chest and pretty much the same area in the back. Nothing much bigger than a 4' diameter in the front, maybe 8' or smaller in the back. I'd prefer branding/burning but I think only the front is a simple enough design. I'd like something along the line of a tree in the back. I'm not looking for something as detailed as a portrait, I'd prefer an even light red coloration. | |
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Posted: 6/25/2012 12:35:57 PM | If you are interested in developing chi power at any
point in the future for martial arts and health I
would recommend against tattoos, scarification
and piercing. | |
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Posted: 6/25/2012 12:53:09 PM |
If you are interested in developing chi power at any
point in the future for martial arts and health I
would recommend against tattoos, scarification
and piercing.
Why? Is it an etiquette thing? I'm doing Kendo currently and I plan to for a long time, but unless it's a health concern I haven't heard of any body art being discouraged. That aside, mine won't be visible in any uniform. | |
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Posted: 6/25/2012 1:03:11 PM | Because it messes up your meridians. You will never know one way
or the other if it weakens you or makes you less healthy than
you could be in the long run. Cut your toe off and then you'll
not be able to to say whether your health afterwards is better or
worse or the same. Same thing with all body modifications. | |
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Posted: 6/25/2012 1:06:02 PM | "Most women I know..." like this 23 year old will be chasing you (and me) and your old broad friends. He's after the 19 to 25 crowd that have tattoos, scar tattoos, etc., not us old broad with wrinkles and age spots as "markers".
You can speak for yourself. Perhaps unlike you welsh474, I have friends of all ages and even the young ones have strict tattoo criterion. It's not a "free for all" with all young people as you may think.
But if the O.P. wants to scar up his body, he is clearly narrowing his dating pool. And following the above poster, I have studied Chinese Medicine and he is correct, anytime you cut into the body the meridians and life flow are weakened. For that very reason an educated woman may pass him by. | |
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Posted: 6/25/2012 1:35:07 PM | Yes, I know SOME don't like tattoo's, etc. but I certainly don't know any one who has "strick criterion" - maybe my friends (young and old) are a little more open minded and at peace with the world and those that choose a different path. And as for "..and educated woman may pass him by", again, I always thought "educated" meant just that - educated, not closed off.
IF the OP chooses this path, I just think he should think on it long and hard - then do what he pleases. | |
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Posted: 6/25/2012 3:33:20 PM |
Most women I know do not consider tattoos sexy or attractive. More like stupid markers.
I find this vastly amusing because I know--and see--a plethora of women of all ages who have tattoos. If this many women have tats and find men who also have them unattractive, it is a bit of a hypocrisy. I have also had men contact me on dating sites and when I read their profiles, they say that they don't like tattoos on women. When I asked them why they contacted me, they said, "Oh, I can make an exception for you."
There's the door, honey.
If you are interested in developing chi power at any
point in the future for martial arts and health I
would recommend against tattoos, scarification
and piercing.
I can't remark about "chi" for martial arts, but if you mean physical health, that's just silly.
I can say that people have been getting tattooed for literally thousands of years. Egyptian mummies have tattoos, including women, and Otzi (the ice man) is/was tattooed. Tattoos are much more than mere decoration, they have been used as talismans to heal bones, for safe childbirth (this is the most likely reason why Egyptian women were tattooed in specific places), for spiritual reasons, and to show status within a society. The Jewish prohibition against cutting/tattooing the body is a holdover from the hatred of Egyptians.
People get tats for various reasons, some are frivolous, but to others, they have real meaning and even the process of getting the work done is a cleansing ritual. If you haven't experienced it and don't want to, I can't explain nor do I want to.
To the OP, I have friends who scarified themselves. They made the cut then rubbed ashes or other material into the cut. Needles don't bother me, but I am not into knives and razors, so I would not have this done to myself.
Because it messes up your meridians. You will never know one way
or the other if it weakens you or makes you less healthy than
you could be in the long run. Cut your toe off and then you'll
not be able to to say whether your health afterwards is better or
worse or the same. Same thing with all body modifications.
For you, yes; for me, it provides grounding. It depends on your philosophy, eh?
For that very reason an educated woman may pass him by.
Educated women? I have four degrees, including a Master’s degree. I see you have “some university.” I know many women AND men who have MAs and PhDs who also have tattoos. This is just silly--unless, of course, you are talking about being informed about “meridians.” Uh-huh.
IF the OP chooses this path, I just think he should think on it long and hard - then do what he pleases.
Yup. | |
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Posted: 6/25/2012 5:45:05 PM | This kills me ~ most people would love to get rid of scars. And branding is going to hurt like hell
To each his own but scar tissue isn't all that attractive. I've had a tattoo removed on my arm and it left a scar ~ I guess I have the best of both worlds since there's some ink remaining as well | |
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Posted: 6/25/2012 5:50:23 PM | Once again, I'm not really looking for personal opinions on what I should do - just facts on the actual subject that I might not already know or where I can learn more.
To put things into perspective, I'm personally on both sides of the fence on this. I'm a bit turned off by women with a large amount of body art covering their body. It's not that I'm against it, I just don't like it in excess. In any case, I realize this may ward away some women - it may also attract others. I just don't care either way, this isn't something that'll play into my decision (which has already been made).
As for the whole education thing, I graduated last year and I'm working a professional job. It's a moot point, if that's what they want to assume - so be it.
<div class='quote'>I can't remark about "chi" for martial arts, but if you mean physical health, that's just silly.
I can say that people have been getting tattooed for literally thousands of years. Egyptian mummies have tattoos, including women, and Otzi (the ice man) is/was tattooed. Tattoos are much more than mere decoration, they have been used as talismans to heal bones, for safe childbirth (this is the most likely reason why Egyptian women were tattooed in specific places), for spiritual reasons, and to show status within a society. The Jewish prohibition against cutting/tattooing the body is a holdover from the hatred of Egyptians.
People get tats for various reasons, some are frivolous, but to others, they have real meaning and even the process of getting the work done is a cleansing ritual. If you haven't experienced it and don't want to, I can't explain nor do I want to.
To the OP, I have friends who scarified themselves. They made the cut then rubbed ashes or other material into the cut. Needles don't bother me, but I am not into knives and razors, so I would not have this done to myself.
Thanks I was going to post a response regarding this as well, but I had reached my post limit earlier. Anyway, I was very doubtful about the whole body art messing with my MMA abilities. I've seen many traditional fighters with body art (monks for example). I was going to check with my Kendo instructor anyway, but I appreciate your input. For mine, I would rather see a professional. The scars I want are not in areas where I can easily reach with a steady hand.
How smooth are the scars your friends made with a sharp edge? I was leaning towards branding to get an even surface/coloration. I'm more concerned with the result/efficiency than the pain or anything else associated though.
@Schmooopy below
Yes I understand that. I just get annoyed when people go off tangent. It's like asking what 2+2 is and having someone answer apples. | |
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Posted: 6/25/2012 5:53:53 PM | | Yes, we understand that ~ even though you start a thread it's not up to you the direction it will go. People are going to have opinions and they're not necessarily directed at you, personally. We're just throwing things out there | |
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Posted: 6/25/2012 6:27:44 PM |
People get tats for various reasons, some are frivolous, but to others, they have real meaning and even the process of getting the work done is a cleansing ritual. If you haven't experienced it and don't want to, I can't explain nor do I want to. So very true and I have commented on this awhile back, with regards to the older generation thoughts on tattoos. The comments there were all over the board as well. In my opinion...there are so many scars we accumulate in life; those that we don't have any control over...some physical (accident of one sort or another) some emotional etc. It is nice to have the choice...once in awhile to have control, to design and decide the where and when and meaning of a special scar or two... | |
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Posted: 6/25/2012 7:18:54 PM |
How smooth are the scars your friends made with a sharp edge? I was leaning towards branding to get an even surface/coloration. I'm more concerned with the result/efficiency than the pain or anything else associated though.
I had forgotten about the branding--I know people who had that done, too. The branding is smoother than the cutting. I think the trick is not to let it heal naturally--hence, the ash. I am not sure about the branding, but it seems that the same principle would apply.
In my opinion...there are so many scars we accumulate in life; those that we don't have any control over...some physical (accident of one sort or another) some emotional etc. It is nice to have the choice...once in awhile to have control, to design and decide the where and when and meaning of a special scar or two...
Aris, yes! The last tats I had done were two years ago after my cat was run over. Call me a crazy cat lady, but I was devastated. I had wanted to get two spirals done on my upper shoulders, blue to emulate woad, for a long time, but I didn't want to spend the money. When the cat died, I thought, gee, Gwen, you could be hit by a car tomorrow and the money wouldn't matter. Spirals symbolize eternity and woad is what my Celtic ancestors used to paint themselves. As I said, getting the tats was a ritual, and the physical pain of having the work done matched my sorrow, and as the artist worked, my grief dissipated.
The spirals are my scars yet are much more--they represent the spiral dance, the dance of eternity that goes inward to the soul and outward to the universe.
Again, if you haven't experienced this, you cannot understand it, but people whom I know have had similar experiences without getting tats. After her mother died, my Native American friend wanted to cut herself--she did some research and found that people of her tribe had done just that: the pain of the cut outwardly symbolized the grief. The cutting is symbolic of releasing the pain inside. My friend had surgery shortly after that, and when it was over, she no longer had the desire to cut herself.
Mind you, I am not talking about people who are cutters and do it on a regular basis to the detriment of their well-being. And yup, it psychological, but so are other ways of dealing with grief and loss.
But the spirals are the only "scars." I have woad moons on my hand that celebrate friendship--my spirit sister and I had them done. Other tats are related to certain aspects of my life.
If a man finds me unattractive because of my tats, oh, well! But it hasn't happened yet. In fact, men are intrigued by them, especially the moons.
Of course, I am not one to worry about what other people think. | |
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Posted: 6/25/2012 7:49:18 PM |
you could be hit by a car tomorrow and the money wouldn't matter. Exactly...! And I find it interesting that in some cases of death, people can identified by their scars...and when it's all said and done, I hope I'm remembered for living and accumulating all the scars that life has to offer and all the choices that made me...well, me!
I do believe that there is a certain amount of healing in many forms of art. I mean some music just hurts my ears, and country music...I go back and forth with. But the bottom line, it can be healing for the writer of the lyrics, the artist that performs the song, the people that choose to listen...choice once again...we are all allowed that. | |
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Posted: 6/25/2012 8:12:37 PM | OP, I have wanted to be branded for several years for a very personal reason, and have seen it being done a few times. Just as in getting a tat, the quality of the outcome depends on the skill of the brander. If I were to get a brand I would definitely seek out the most skilled persons in a wide-ranging geographical area, and check out their portfolio of work prior to the branding.
I have observed "strike branding", the type of branding that one gets akin to a cattle brand, from a pre-formed symbol of metal heated in a fire - and have also watched a body mod expert (the one who did all my piercings) doing a free-form brand where she had to create the shape of the scar as she went. The free-form brand took a lot longer but actually seemed to be less intense than the strike branding - which was over very quickly but produced a very smooth, uniform scar. In the strike branding method all the time is taken by the prep work to create the metal piece to heat up for the brand, instead of the time being taken to free-form the symbol (or whatever) on the skin. In both cases, it creates a third degree burn. | |
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Posted: 6/25/2012 8:24:24 PM | OP, also if you Google "body modification by branding" you will find a number of links that may help.
http://tattoo.about.com/od/branding/Branding_Extreme_Body_Modifications_for_Ritual_and_Pleasure.htm
http://www.bodymod.org/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20368
http://www.alternativelook.net/brand-aftercare/
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Posted: 6/25/2012 8:37:02 PM | | Thanks for the info, I'm a bit surprised about the third degree burn detail. I was thinking it'd be a second degree at worse. | |
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Posted: 6/25/2012 8:41:45 PM | | I find tattoos to be very sexy. I am on a tattoo site I will let you know the site, it has galleries of everything you could ask for. | |
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