| | The Cruises are sailing apart- Does extreme initial enthusiam usually beget divorce?Page 1 of 2 (1, 2) | They were both supposedly blubberingly raving mad about each other when they met and got married (though I don't care much about celebrity loves-lifestyles). Not the usual modern celebrity marriage which has mostly a business transactional attitude as far as I have heard (not that much).
Now five years later they are splitting, some celebrity worshipers just can't wait to hear all the juicy gossip as to why.
Some are guessing that it may have been just that mutual extreme emotional immaturity even at their ages.
Most marriages are challenging enough for our "individual rights above all else cultured society", but especially spotlighted celebrity ones. IF they had just taken years longer to fully get to know one another and get over their oxytocin/serotonin infatuation first,
do you think that would have portended a much longer-lasting marriage? Without such initial irrational exuberance?
From what personal experience doest thou speak? (got some rise with that olde English already ) | |
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| The Cruises are sailing apart- Does extreme initial enthusiam usually beget divorce?
Posted: 6/29/2012 1:06:37 PM | dost - archaic second person singular of present do
does - third person singular of present do
doest - American person singularly crapped up *presents doh* :0)
On topic: I have no experience of the Cruises, but I would have thought a balance of rationality, emotionality and physicality would be optimum. What would each be without the other in a relationship of longevity, other than skewed? | |
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Posted: 6/29/2012 1:26:04 PM | The only thing I thought that was interesting, and in the beginning enjoyable,
about the whole holmes/cruise thing is, when she was growing up she had a
poster of cruise on her bedroom wall. I remember thinking to myself, really,
how often does someone actually get to marry a person who's poster they've
had on their bedroom wall? ahahahahahaha!
I liked cruise when he was in risky business, and I liked holmes in dawson's creek,
but I thought cruise got kind of looney in his later years. Maybe it was the religion,
I don't know.
I thought she married him because she was truly smitten with the poster on the
wall, and I thought he married her because she was an all american looking girl
who thought he was the bees knees...win win.
Sorry they didn't work out, but they got too weird. | |
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| The Cruises are sailing apart- Does extreme initial enthusiam usually beget divorce?
Posted: 6/29/2012 1:37:33 PM | Scientology is a modern religious tradition, and if you are not a follower, or an outsider you can't begin to understand. Holmes while embracing, and respecting Cruise's religious beliefs in the end still had most likely adjusting to this new world.
Then there is the point that Holmes is more subdued while Tom still wants to shoot movies as he has a passion as an actor, which can put a strain on having a traditional family with a dad at home with the wife and child for dinner. That reality seemed fleeting.
Bottom line, they are not a match at this point in their live, and while you could have argued this was foreseen possibility in reality people due to change given enough time.
As for Cruise being gay, I don't think so, its just he has other passions in his life that he put s a greater emphasis on.
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Posted: 6/29/2012 3:14:08 PM | I think they were both emotionally immature. She was much younger, new to Hollywood and in love with her childhood fantasy. Most of his adult relationships were of the Hollywood type, if you know what I mean. These are not based on resilience or other characteristics but on instant gratification, IMO.
Who knows if he`s gay..but he is into scientology and she was brought up Catholic. No matter how hard you try to be something for someone else, eventually your core values come to surface. | |
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Posted: 6/29/2012 4:45:30 PM | How would anyone know how they felt about each other? They are ACTORS.
Maybe Suri was from a sperm donor. Maybe Katie reached some milestone of marriage that crossed the line into another level of prenuptial compensation (married for 5 years, get more). Who knows? I think it was a business arrangement to garner more fans/ attention (and have a child to make them look like a "normal" couple).  | |
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Posted: 6/29/2012 8:20:48 PM | While not a big fan of either, even though I love the movie "Legend", I find it sad when someone gets divorced. Why is it important to talk about it in here? We only know what the medial says and well... you know how the media can be. It's not like the media has anything to gain by exploiting their marriage *sarcasm intended*
Now if you just want to ask the question about extreme beginnings being more likely to fizzle out - usually, but not always. As usual this depends on the people involved.
If you're asking if the problem could be because of being in the spotlight? Yeah, it could have affected them. Again, this depends on the people involved. There are lots of successful marriages in Hollywood. | |
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Posted: 6/29/2012 8:43:50 PM | I've personally known a few people who worked in the film industry, in the behind the scenes type of jobs. As far as anyone on a movie set, they're all separated (for the most part) from their homes, families and day to day lives for months at a time. They may have months, even years before they are on another shoot, but often spend lots of time apart. Acting IS a job, and like many other careers, where there are longer times spent apart, it takes a toll on many relationships. It's not surprising so few survive for the long term, a romantic relationship can't thrive without the things it needs to live and maintain good health. I find those that DO survive much more intriguing than those that succumb.
Celebrities aren't that different from anyone else, your neighbor, uncle....sister. You may "know" about the relationship, but the only two who know the full dynamic of it are the two who are in it. When someone becomes celebrated, which is the attainment of something they sought, they give up any expectation of privacy. Their lives become fodder for the tabloid rags, TV, it's part and parcel of what they wanted. Personally, I consider all the tabloid media the bottom dwellers, and it'd be snowing in hell before anyone would find any of that crap in my house.
Their private lives aren't, it's expected, I just tend to think of them as people like me. And yes, no divorce isn't something anyone wants. As far as being gaga so fast, leading to a quick divorce, they were together more than a few years. So I don't think that holds true, again only they know and I do have compassion for both of them. | |
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Posted: 6/29/2012 9:27:46 PM | He's a Control Freak.
He did an interview with Peter Overton on 60 mins in Australia some years ago and ive been completely turned off by him ever since. In fact,the whole Nation was against him after that and he got some very bad press here.
He wanted to control EVERYTHING and was extremely over the top and rude to the interviewer who struggled to get the interview back on track when Cruise was politely asked a Q which he didnt want to answer and he told him "to put his manners back in" which *i* thought was a very odd expression........................
Oprah Winfrey later on also asked him the same Q (about his son) and he was fine with her.....
Im positive his obsession with Scientology is the root of everything thats gone wrong in his marriage and i suspect the same thing(his religion)was at the bottom of his failed marriage to Nicole Kidman,too.
Who knows and really,who cares? | |
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Posted: 6/29/2012 11:32:41 PM | | i think tom just needs to marry women that share his religious beliefs. i think this is his big issue. he needs to find a scientologist and marry her instead of wasting his time with these starlets that don't share his faith. religion can tear any marriage apart, so it is something to really reconcile before you tie the knot. | |
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Posted: 6/29/2012 11:34:37 PM | CJimCentralPA
Tom Cruise is not gay.
Let's just say I lived in Los Angeles for a long time. I worked in the entertainment industry for a long time. I know a few people. Let's just leave it at that.
He's not a homosexual. He actually has the reputation of being a really super nice guy. | |
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Posted: 6/30/2012 4:09:38 AM | She made a gorgeous baby with that sperm and furthered her name/reputation, became a fashion icon in her world then developed a clothing line ect ect..Plus her child will never want for anything if she never works again.
Miss Holmes could not have done that so easily without being Mrs. Cruise imo
I could be wrong and they could have mutually had real love, but that couch jumping escapade made me think ..REALLY? Who wrote that script?
That was over the top and inch or two even for an actor.
She grew up and realized he wasn't a"god" but a little dic-tator?
He got caught with a who ever?
She got caught with a whoever?
Neither will be lonely very long anyhoo
5 years isn't a bad run in Hollywood, thats like 10-20 IRL isn't it?
We could guess all day.
Doesn't really matter.
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| Cruises sailing apart- Does extreme initial enthusiam usually beget divorce?
Posted: 6/30/2012 6:40:22 AM | I think I recall reading that 5 years is a rough time in a marriage. The honeymoon is over and you're each looking at the reality of your lifelong choice.
Actors aren't the only ones to get divorced, we're all here in the same predicament.
I could care less why actors get divorced. I do feel badly for them just as I do people in my life. It's a sad situation, more so I can imagine when the entire world is butting their nose in and giving opinions. | |
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Posted: 6/30/2012 7:38:14 AM | | Matters of the heart,usually don't work so well if you use your brain at the same time. I sometimes question the "speed" of which some people jump into a marriage like this,but,than again, if it's "easy" to "jump out" of these types of marriage, why not ride the wave?????? They got the money to jump in and jump out,so it don't bother me much. May phuck up the kid's mind,but, hey, I'm not one of the parents. | |
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| The Cruises are sailing apart- Does extreme initial enthusiam usually beget divorce?
Posted: 7/1/2012 5:35:34 AM | At least Katie doesn't appear to be all freakin crazy weird and bent out of shape like Nicole Kidman was. LMAO
And to all of those that say that Tom Cruise is not gay....yeah, how do you know for sure? Were you there each time he stuck his pickle in whomever he did? Come off it, we don't know the intimate details of anyones life. He could be gay but then again, he could be straight as an arrow. Unless you've been with him, YOU DON"T KNOW. | |
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