| | What is the diference between Healthy and Fitness people.Page 1 of 2 (1, 2) | Is quite simple. There may be some that are fit and rpped. Does it mean they are healthy perhaps. Why Im I writting this? The reaso is because alot of people need to start taking care of themselves and health.
First we have the muscle type, from huge to ripped skinny. They may be fit, but most use cheats. Cheats that allow them to look sertain way. And while I m not hatting on nature supplements, but the ones that are priocesed with harmfull chemicals and infused with carsinogenic ingredients. Typical companies make their marketing purpose. This is the type who eats diet everything. Well diet things have carcinogens,doing research. one can figure.
Then we have the health nuts. That purpose is to just eat healthy. There is nothing wrong with them, but is their choice. If they feel right with their bodies, is good. They choose healthy .
The third type Im one of them. the healthy and fi, some even rippedt. We actualy focus our knowledge into healthy food and some different types of workouts altho we have different ways to aproach them. I use cross fit and suppersets most of the timer. Now this kind focuses on organic foods, alkalinity and stability in the body as well as muscle mass and low fat percentage. Its actually the best ways to look and feel better.
So if you are !umber 3 good job keep working on it. Those eho like more info, let me know. There is far more details left to explain. | |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 10:19:29 PM | I'm overweight, but I run 3 - 5 miles a day, as well as do other cardio work I aim to burn 700 - 1,000 calories a day 6 days a week. I drink water, eat veggies, but I eat junk food too. Today I had a steak and mashed potatoes, some chips, a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, and a greek salad...that's probably why I'm overweight.
I think I'm healthier than my skinny friends who don't exercise, if not I know I am more physically fit.
Oh yeah and I'm am too poor to buy organic. That stuff is expensive. I only eat organic food when I'm at my boyfriends house. He eats all that stuff and he has diabetes...weird. | |
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Posted: 7/3/2012 7:13:15 PM | Well according to my blood work I am healthy. I have normal triglycerides, blood sugar, cholesterol, blood pressure, ect. I am not as fit as I should be though, but more fit than I was 60 pounds ago. So yeah, I suppose there is a big difference between healthy and fit. I know a few skinny people that are definitely not fit. I know one girl who weighs probably 100 pounds lighter than me but I could out exercise her any day. I know this because I have. She is so out of shape it's ridiculous. I am by no means in the best shape of my life *Not yet* but I am more so than before.
On a side note. Awesome you do Crossfit! I have 56 more pounds to lose and I am joining Crossfit! It is one of my goals for this year! I can't wait! | |
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Posted: 7/4/2012 5:46:26 AM |
Then we have the health nuts. That purpose is to just eat healthy. There is nothing wrong with them, but is their choice. If they feel right with their bodies, is good. They choose healthy .
Exercise is good for fitness.
But hours a day working with heavy things such as machines and dumbbells, running excessively ect that put strain joints will eventually cause injury, wear and tear more than normal.
Then what?
Look at professional athletes.
Some of us do focus more on the food aspect and moderate exercise.
Why the term NUT???
Isn't that applicable to anyone that focuses on any ONE thing obsessively? | |
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Posted: 7/4/2012 8:03:04 AM | I dont think the OP's categories are valid personally.
I eat extremely well, because I actually enjoy the taste of real wholesome foods, and I like the benefit of it keeping me healthy and trim.
I stay active because I dont want to end up seized up in every joint when Im older and have things I want to still do.
Im not a 'nut' about anything, I just make these choices as part of my life because they feel good. | |
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Posted: 7/4/2012 1:09:22 PM |
I eat extremely well, because I actually enjoy the taste of real wholesome foods, and I like the benefit of it keeping me healthy and trim.
I stay active because I dont want to end up seized up in every joint when Im older and have things I want to still do.
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Exactly FC
I enjoy a big fat ripe dripping juicy watermelon or sweet purple grapes and big tart cherries over ice cream any day. | |
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Posted: 7/5/2012 10:14:57 PM |
Today I had a steak and mashed potatoes, some chips, a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, and a greek salad...that's probably why I'm overweight.
I think I'm healthier than my skinny friends who don't exercise, if not I know I am more physically fit.
Oh yeah and I'm am too poor to buy organic. That stuff is expensive. I only eat organic food when I'm at my boyfriends house. He eats all that stuff and he has diabetes...weird.
Haha, you can afford all of that junk food but you are too poor to buy organic? I guess I'm unable to follow your logic here.
You ate like $10 worth of food and somehow you can't afford organic? For $10 you can get a head of romaine lettuce, a pound of strawberries, a container of blueberries, a pound of carrots, some onions, and bananas. Do this for a couple of days in a row and you are going to have enough fruits and veggies eat like a king.
Quit making excuses. You eat those foods because you WANT to, not because it's cheaper. | |
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Posted: 7/5/2012 10:29:25 PM | | the difference between healthy and fitness people are easy to see where i work. the healthy are visitors, the fitness people are in a hospital bed rehabbing from having something surgically removed or replaced. | |
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Posted: 7/6/2012 3:51:27 AM |
But hours a day working with heavy things such as machines and dumbbells, running excessively ect that put strain joints will eventually cause injury, wear and tear more than normal.
Then what?
Look at professional athletes.
Some of us do focus more on the food aspect and moderate exercise.
Why the term NUT???
Isn't that applicable to anyone that focuses on any ONE thing obsessively?
Hours.. you don't need to work out 'hours' every day. 30 min of a solid workout everyday are enough to keep your fitness level at a good state.
If you get injuries is because you are training wrong. Ask for professional help in that case.
Athletes do it as profession. Did you ever work with a headache? Same thing for athletes, they carry on working through injuries where us, normal people, can change our training or simply rest at the first sign of injury.
Exercise is obsessive.. and spending hours in front of the tv what it is called? It is all about what society thinks is acceptable.
Haha, you can afford all of that junk food but you are too poor to buy organic? I guess I'm unable to follow your logic here.
It is not an excuse but I think she is right and I am truly annoyed with our society. A greasy burger is 1 pound and a salad is 5 pounds. If you go food shopping starving and with few quids is tremendous. | |
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Posted: 7/6/2012 4:47:50 AM | Frozen veggies, eggs, white tuna and beans are very cheap compared to a #5 at any fast food restaurant.
Granted fresh fruit organic can SEEM high, but look how filling it is.
ALL foods do not have to be organic if they can be washed/scrubbed.
Go organic with your dairy/animal products when you find them and things you cant scrub like strawberries.
Buy on sale and freeze.
The antioxidants and nutrients in non organic food you can wash is still better than a bag of chips and onion dip thats store bought at 6-8 bucks
Organic free range eggs max 4.25 and MUCH less at a market or from a farm will feed you at least 4-6 high quality protein meals.
A pizza is outrageous at 14 bucks.
I can get a week of fruit and veggies with that. | |
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Posted: 7/6/2012 11:37:27 AM | I don't know but my resting pulse is 55 bpm which is supposed to be a sign of good fitness.
I think people don't realise just how highly calorific some food is though. A large Domino's pizza needs almost a half marathon of running to burn off. It's wrong to think if you exercise regularly you can eat what you like. Some foods are so energy dense that even small amounts will fast exceed the calories you use up by exercising. | |
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Posted: 7/6/2012 11:40:05 AM |
I don't know but my resting pulse is 55 bpm which is supposed to be a sign of good fitness.
No that is a sign of a low resting HR and or possible blood pressure issues.
Now if you can spike that HR to 180 and bring it right back down, that is the sign of good fitness which is the direct result of good genes. | |
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Posted: 7/6/2012 12:02:26 PM | It's true that the rate your pulse recovers is important, I agree. I've got no blood pressure issues and my resting pulse has decreased slowly over the years I've been running. When I do interval training my pulse recovers very quickly, in fact I have to push myself full out to get out of breath.
Good fitness is a combination of training and genetics. | |
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Posted: 7/6/2012 12:18:34 PM |
Good fitness is a combination of training and genetics.
Let me fix that for you.
Good fitness is 100% dependent on having the right genetics, and no amount of training will change that.
For the most part your fitness level (VO2 Max) is fixed and you can not increase it, as all you can do is get closer to it, as like all this it is determined by your genetics. | |
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Posted: 7/6/2012 6:02:25 PM |
the difference between healthy and fitness people are easy to see where i work. the healthy are visitors, the fitness people are in a hospital bed rehabbing from having something surgically removed or replaced.
Running too many miles is not healthy. | |
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Posted: 7/8/2012 10:31:33 AM | Good fitness is 100% dependent on having the right genetics, and no amount of training will change that.
For the most part your fitness level (VO2 Max) is fixed and you can not increase it, as all you can do is get closer to it, as like all this it is determined by your genetics.
In your view, what defines good fitness and right genetics ? It may well be true that your VO2 max is genetically determined but that does not mean training is of no value at all. To me, fitness is about progression and improvement. If I train hard I can run a marathon quicker than last year, with the same genetics. That means my fitness is better than it was last year. I might say my fitness is good this year and was less good last year. Is there any absolute definition of good fitness ? Sure I might eventually reach a plateau but that's irrelevant.
And fit for what ? The highest VO2 max on record is a cross country skier, I wonder if he can run a marathon in 2 hrs 4 mins ?
Your maximum fitness level maybe genetically determined but whether you achieve that depends on training and nothing else. Haile Gebrsalassie didn't get up one morning and run a 2 hr 4 mins marathon without a lot of training. His genetics meant he was capable of it, his training is what enabled him to achieve what his genetics allowed him to. | |
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Posted: 7/8/2012 6:39:25 PM |
Your maximum fitness level maybe genetically determined but whether you achieve that depends on training and nothing else. Haile Gebrsalassie didn't get up one morning and run a 2 hr 4 mins marathon without a lot of training. His genetics meant he was capable of it, his training is what enabled him to achieve what his genetics allowed him to.
Agree here.Is a person suited to being a gymnast or competing in a decathlon?Bull rider or steer wrestler?
I knew a guy 20 or so years ago,older,had been in the army and was selected for a training program to study the human body.Can't remember his max HR but it was huge.Did all kinds of tests on him and the training was cross country. | |
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Posted: 7/12/2012 8:42:42 PM | | bullcrap, go into a brazillian jiu jitsu practice and see how long you can grapple on your first day and then compare that to 6 months later, gee somehow are another you can do better, this could possibly be from an improvment in your cardio capacity. hmmmmm | |
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Posted: 7/14/2012 1:09:31 AM | Healthy includes fitness. Healthy just has more components than fitness.
Fitness nuts will run 5 minute miles, bench press 200 pounds, or be able to put their foot behind their head.
To be healthy, you only need to be able to walk for an hour so you can go shopping without fainting, be strong enough to carry your kid, or wife ;) or flexible enough to prevent regular injuries. | |
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Posted: 7/14/2012 6:18:11 PM |
Fitness nuts will run 5 minute miles, bench press 200 pounds, or be able to put their foot behind their head.
To be healthy, you only need to be able to walk for an hour so you can go shopping without fainting, be strong enough to carry your kid, or wife ;) or flexible enough to prevent regular injuries.
My ex could do near full splits but couldn't get into a squat stance.
What if you had to carry your wife up two flights of stairs to exit a burning home?Could you do it then? | |
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Posted: 8/18/2012 8:08:35 PM | | You should watch this documentary Bigger Stronger Faster. I think the average joe who joggs everyday and tries to eat a clean diet is more healthy than the Bodybuilder / Power lifter types. Know a lot of people in the gym who are Big and Ripped, but they are in no way close to healthy. All those PEDs and AAS they take will take a toll on them sooner or later. | |
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Posted: 8/19/2012 2:21:46 PM | allthegoodnamesrtaken1, the research on epigenome genetics is quite interesting, thanks for posting about this. Here is an interesting quote from one of researchers.
Extending the results to a large group of neonates, individuals at the midpoint and nonagenarians or centenarians we realized that this is an ongoing process in which each passing day goes by twisting the epigenome," explains the researcher. However, Dr. Esteller noted that "epigenetic lesions, unlike genetic ones, are reversible and therefore modifying the patterns of DNA methylation by dietary changes or use of drugs may induce an increase in lifetime." | |
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Posted: 8/20/2012 10:44:32 AM | People have no clue what real health is, they think they do. You do not need to exercise to be in good health. You ever see those guys that meditate, some of them are in good health yet they don't move very much. Many so called healthy people take vitamins and supplements that is processed but that isn't good health either. In the long run it can cause damage.
Good health is not being addicted to one food, that means eating a wide variety of foods and having a healthy mind. From my research I have found us modern people have a lot of stress. We have too many addictions. Addiction to material things, money, people, and so on. When he can our mind to the very core that's true health. In ancient China times the average life span was 100 years. Modern science doesn't even come close to that. Very few people live to be 100 years old.
It is modern processing in food, water, air, etc that hinders our health but of course us organic people are just nuts. lol | |
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