| | Plenty of Fish Public vs. Private sidePage 1 of 1 | From reading numerous profiles and everything seemingly sunshine and rainbows with most people according to their profiles and public claims regarding themselves on the forums... Do you feel many people who join POF say one thing in public but are completely different or hiding things in private? And if so many people do this why do people who are 'serious' bother staying unless they are really looking for one night stands or are just gluttons for punishment? It seems online dating is worse off than ever. Except if you are aesthetic, tall, and look damn good in a shirtless pic (of course which isn't allowed but is seen on many sites showing chats directly off here with women).
I've done some pretty extensive research regarding online dating and I've personally seen NUMEROUS threads on other sites in which tons of good looking guys who work out are getting TONS of replies off copy and pasting and going shirtless. I'm thinking the word is out on the streets if you look damn good as a guy and come off funny and not caring the women here may say one thing in public but flock to the same guys they claim to "hate".
And it's forums showing direct chats off here with girls all over Canada, the UK and America. I for one am not buying peoples public claims and the reality I've seen on many sites with many phone numbers and nude. YES nude pics women send good looking men and the "dates" they are going on= one night stands. | |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 6:59:37 PM | well, I can't speak for others, but I can speak for self. Men that show shirtless pics does not turn me on, I think that it's their way of saying he'll yeah I look good so come get it. It's showing me that they will sleep around which is " what I don't do"
As far as woman going for what they say they don't want, again .....I say what I mean.....and mean what I say.
Now, it sounds as if your a little winer that is not getting what you desire. So, maybe you should change your whole outlook on how you think and mean what you say. | |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 7:05:28 PM | Okay - Let's go slowly so you understand.
Do you feel many people who join POF say one thing in public but are completely different or hiding things in private? On line dating isn't really dating. It's getting an introduction to people who you would not normally meet. If everyone put all their crap on the table up front, no one would even speak to anyone else. The objective of your profile is to show yourself in the best light in order to encourage contact with others in the hope of one of those contacts turning into a connection.
And if so many people do this why do people who are 'serious' bother staying unless they are really looking for one night stands or are just gluttons for punishment? No, they are looking for someone who won't view their negatives as deal-breakers. They are looking for someone who will accept them despite their faults.
Except if you are aesthetic, tall, and look damn good in a shirtless pic (of course which isn't allowed but is seen on many sites showing chats directly off here with women). Looks will always attract admiring glances but if these people had found a true connection, they wouldn't be here, would they ? Being attractive and fit isn't enough if you are a jerk. So although these people might get a high volume of messages, that doesn't mean they are quality messages nor does it mean that the people they are meeting are willing to overlook whatever flaws they have in their personality.
I've done some pretty extensive research regarding online dating and I've personally seen NUMEROUS threads on other sites in which tons of good looking guys who work out are getting TONS of replies off copy and pasting and going shirtless. I'm thinking the word is out on the streets if you look damn good as a guy and come off funny and not caring the women here may say one thing in public but flock to the same guys they claim to "hate".
Then your research is flawed. Being good looking isn't enough to hold onto a person of quality if you're an ass.
And it's forums showing direct chats off here with girls all over Canada, the UK and America. I for one am not buying peoples public claims and the reality I've seen on many sites with many phone numbers and nude. YES nude pics women send good looking men and the "dates" they are going on= one night stands. Well, there are classy people everywhere. Is this really what you want from a long-term partner ? | |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 7:16:35 PM |
Do you feel many people who join POF say one thing in public but are completely different or hiding things in private?
Sort of.
I don't think any online representation of someone, it being an impersonal medium of communication, gives an accurate portrayal of a reality based relationship you would have with them.
if so many people do this why do people who are 'serious' bother staying unless they are really looking for one night stands or are just gluttons for punishment?
Hope?
Delusion?
Laziness?
It seems online dating is worse off than ever.
IMO people expect too much from "online dating."
IMO there really is no difference between online dating and noticing a bunch of people standing on a street corner holding signs reading "I am single, how about some attention over here," and then going to join them.
IMO online dating sites offer no real services or authority of knowledge on the subject they sell, only the illusion of it.
So IMO online dating can't get "worse" or "better" really, only your expectations and what you think of the people you stand next to.
IMO at best the "truth" about online dating and how it's always been is being experienced and becoming part of general knowledge.
Kind of like crime statistics in America. We don't all of a sudden live in a lawless horrible evil land, it's just the reporting is getting more prevalent and widespread, with more and more people coming to know what's going on, with less and less local and community events remaining local and community events.
Also kind of like the difference between watching Leave it to Beaver and hearing dating stories from your grandma.
I've done some pretty extensive research regarding online dating and I've personally seen NUMEROUS threads on other sites in which tons of good looking guys who work out are getting TONS of replies off copy and pasting and going shirtless.
17 years ago when it was all AOL chat rooms and chat room parties it was usually the 20 year olds that were passing around the 40-60 year old cougars week to week, while said cougars would get offended if anyone thought them "easy," so they'd get into mini relationships that lasted a week or a couple of months, or FWB until someone new came into the room.
Chat rooms became full of spambots, everyone went to online dating and social networking sites.
Instead of bytching in a chat room, people bytch in forums.
Nothing has really changed. It's just becoming more obvious and accepted as reality.
So it's the new people that come in having the Leave it to Beaver mentality and expectations that are reluctant to change from their idealized version of reality to actual reality.
the women here may say one thing in public but flock to the same guys they claim to "hate".
Women and men both do it. But they have had to experience it a few times to get a clear understanding of what they are doing and whom to "hate." And if they are doing it, and it seems a pattern, then it's something they are choosing.
And one thing about people is they hate change. It's easier to rationalize something and keep doing it rather than actually stop doing it.
And the internet makes things oh so easy. | |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 8:33:55 PM | You can't dismiss the biological factors to online dating huh? Women can be full of beans, true. Ain't even about what they say on their profiles, it's who gets to the girl at the right time. I could be the ***hole who primes them for the next ***hole and being male, we're being true to ourselves. When they say they want to be impressed, to be approached creatively, they're saying they are basically fertile.
I've actually written some great profile copy that includes my own lyrics, poetry, prose, quotes and philosophies and Googled it to find some dude has cut and pasted my words in their profile on another site.
Humor can often go unappreciated so I don't bother being funny. That's what the forums are for! | |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 8:51:59 PM |
Do you feel many people who join POF say one thing in public but are completely different or hiding things in private?
I find that the word "feel" in that sentence is the tell-tale one, OP.
You claim to have done all this "research." I call BS on that. Someone who has actually done real research, doesn't have to "feel" a conclusion, they can quantify and prove it.
I charge you with talking through your hat. I think you have chosen to believe that the shirtless guys on other sites are getting lots of tail, and you want to be freed to play the same tricks here that you imagine is working for them, over there.
It would make FAR more sense, rather than coming here to try to bluff your way into forcing a change in policy, to simply go where you pretend all the action is happening, show your belly button off, and start racking up all the action you imagine.
No, I am not a "Jedi" or a psychic, so I don't "feel" that other people are this or that. I look directly at what people claim, including you, and reason logically about it. If someone claims to have found all the wealth they could ever need somewhere else (be that in gold, or in nookie), but are only popping up in my neighborhood out of the goodness of their little hearts, to share with my poor self, I deduce what I always do about annoying salespeople: logically, if they found what they wanted elsewhere, when they learned it wasn't available here, they'd shut the F up and go back where they were before.
So, does almost everyone on the planet try to make themselves look better than they really are? Duh. Every SPECIES on the planet does that, it's programmed into our freakin DNA. Of COURSE most people try to look their best in their profiles, if they can figure out how to do that. Then again, it's no different out in the streets, or in clubs, or anywhere you go.
So why the fuss? Perhaps you are simply too inexperienced to realize yet, that the real key is to recognize and accept that a large part of your energy spent in search of satisfaction from the world, is going to be expended upon scratching through deception and obfuscation, both duplicitous and innocent in nature. | |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 8:54:57 PM | Some people on this thread want to shoot the messenger (O.P.) Pretty funny if you ask me. Claiming "whining" when someone speaks the truth. The word on the site has been out for some time now and there's way too much evidence to deny or ignore it. It's a free site, so I personally never expected anything other than what I've seen as well and is going on, on a consistent daily basis all over the site (on most likely the same sites the O.P has seen). People can lie online but when the countless conversations are posted on other sites pertaining to POF for anyone to see as well as 'special' pictures and phone numbers some posters who are aware tend to trust the reality of things.
I’ve visited those same sites myself O.P. Guys on here may think while they’re hoping for a reply, or even chatting with some ‘princess’ she’s already slept with a few dudes off here, sent naked pics to several and God knows what else as well as if she decides her ‘upgrade’ just sent her an email. It’s online ‘dating’. Think of all the times in real life women can flirt, meet, date, screw etc. guys and yet will join online ‘dating’ to claim they are looking for a ‘real man’ but always ‘unfortunately’ meet the same men they claim to not want? And they’ve developed this through absolutely no social intelligence of their own? Losers who can’t stop themselves from meeting ‘losers’ by no fault of their own of course. Please! LOL.
Gotta love the clueless WK’s on here. Perhaps you can serve to clean up your ‘princess’ after she’s done with her previous “date”. I know exactly which sites the O.P is talking about and there is mountains of daily evidence of what’s really going on here and who people are responding to no matter what they may claim in their profile nonsense.
Why is it soo difficult to believe what the O.P has claimed? It's almost as if some people prefer to live a lie or deny the truth as God forbid I don't get my daily dose of attention from people I would never date while replying to the people I 'don't want'. | |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 9:14:11 PM | Good looks ALWAYS give an advantage in meeting people, regardless of the forum (Forum... get it? Forum? Oh nevermind...).
That said, it only gets you in the door. Many Men and Women won't contact someone who has a terrible profile. And even IF someone contacts you based purely on looks, good looks are rarely enough for most people. The rest still comes down to the dirty details.
The progressive intimacy of dating tends to reward those who don't air all their laundry early, so it shouldn't be surprising that people aren't always upfront about their negatives. That's true in every type of dating. Very few successful dates start out with "I fart like crazy and sweat like a pig. And how about you?"
As for misrepresentation, that happens in RL as well as Online. The competitive nature of dating means that those who stand out tend to get the most attention. As such there is no shortage of people seeking to extract any edge they can in terms of "standing out".
That's not to say there aren't those that understate or are who they say they are, but they are not the majority for sure, especially as the frustration over rejection/non-response/bad response mounts. Being insecure is probably more common than being secure when it comes to self-perception, especially when it comes to physical looks and weight for Women, and career/financial success and height for Men.
The fact is most every human being is "flawed" in some way, either measured against some percieved standard or against our own expectations of ourselves. This sense of being "flawed" drives some to either exagerrate, or to hide those flaws, or to act out in an attempt to compensate.
As for why people keep going... not everyone does. People take breaks, or quit the site. However, those who keep plugging away do so in the hope that the additional reach and ease of approaching people online will eventually pay off.
After all, regardless of how many people there are out there, and how many bad fish are floating in the pond, you only need to find ONE good fish. | |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 9:14:59 PM |
Do you feel many people who join POF say one thing in public but are completely different or hiding things in private?
Duuh! Obviously!!
And if so many people do this why do people who are 'serious' bother staying unless they are really looking for one night stands or are just gluttons for punishment?
Because theres always the chance that theres at least ONE other person who has the potential to be "serious"
It seems online dating is worse off than ever. Except if you are aesthetic, tall, and look damn good in a shirtless pic (of course which isn't allowed but is seen on many sites showing chats directly off here with women).
Well the same goes for women, unless youre slim well built long hair and sexy and attractive you wont get any messages.
I've done some pretty extensive research regarding online dating and I've personally seen NUMEROUS threads on other sites in which tons of good looking guys who work out are getting TONS of replies off copy and pasting and going shirtless. I'm thinking the word is out on the streets if you look damn good as a guy and come off funny and not caring the women here may say one thing in public but flock to the same guys they claim to "hate".
Youre going to have to show some kind of references to back this up!
I for one am not buying peoples public claims and the reality I've seen on many sites with many phone numbers and nude. YES nude pics women send good looking men and the "dates" they are going on= one night stands.
You dont have to buy it, the reality is people are still going to do what theyre going to do and youre never really going to understand why. Putting judgemental preconcieved notions and cliches on situations never help either. | |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 9:17:17 PM | | Bragging and exaggerating female conquests is as old as time among men. I have heard so many men lie about their sexual exploits that it wouldn't surprise me that they are doing it online too. Men can have double lives as well, sleeping around while they are trying to find Ms. Right so I don't see the big problem with that. You have different standards for FWB than you do for a long term relationship. What I don't understand is when men feel entitled to date the most attractive women just because they aren't a loser. I don't think great looking men should settle for less attractive women just because they are good people. And I'm certain the great looking guys don't think so either. So many men start their profile talking about the beautiful woman they are searching for. Bottom line is there isn't a beautiful woman for every average man. Just be glad you don't live in China where there are way more men than women due to female infanticide. And here is something to think about.....I am 54 and have been contacted by several good looking you men for FWB. Do you really think they would bother with me if they could get any hot girl they wanted???? Doubt it! | |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 9:24:30 PM |
Bragging and exaggerating female conquests is as old as time among men. I have heard so many men lie about their sexual exploits that it wouldn't surprise me that they are doing it online too
One thing I've learned over the years is the Men that brag about their conquests Usually don't have that many conquests. And those that DO have alot of conquests, are usually smart enough to keep their Yap shut.
While in principle bragging about the numerous Women who you've become intimate with can be interpreted as a mark of masculinity, it's probably just as likely to have people judging you.
Not to mention, Gentlemen don't kiss and tell... :) | |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 9:36:34 PM |
One thing I've learned over the years is the Men that brag about their conquests Usually don't have that many conquests. And those that DO have alot of conquests, are usually smart enough to keep their Yap shut.
While in principle bragging about the numerous Women who you've become intimate with can be interpreted as a mark of masculinity, it's probably just as likely to have people judging you.
Not to mention, Gentlemen don't kiss and tell... :)
So them showing the users profile, naked , seperate bra and panty, naked pics of the same girls in the profile, the email conversations themselves screen shot off POF, with numbers given from loads of guys who are built and all talking on several websites for men into fitness etc. from America, the U.K. and Canada and they're all "lying" about meeting or not meeting these girls on here?? Even IF all of them were lying. These same girls who are on the site today have showed their true colors in email and in the pictures they're sending. Nice try but the dudes who know aren't buying it. | |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 9:55:22 PM |
So them showing the users profile, naked , seperate bra and panty, naked pics of the same girls in the profile, the email conversations themselves screen shot off POF, with numbers given from loads of guys who are built and all talking on several websites for men into fitness etc. from America, the U.K. and Canada and they're all "lying" about meeting or not meeting these girls on here?? Even IF all of them were lying. These same girls who are on the site today have showed their true colors in email and in the pictures they're sending. Nice try but the dudes who know aren't buying it.
I'm not saying they have NO conquests, just that they usually aren't the accomplished Ladies men that they would have you believe. Also, we need to keep in mind that a prolific Ladies man does NOT need online dating to be successful. They can easily find women in real life with far less work.
I've known guys like that, that have literally slept with 50, 75 or 100+ women. I knew they were actually doing it because I saw them going home with girl after girl, week after week. I knew a guy in College like that... he was above average looking, but he was also smart, charming and funny. However, if anyone ever asked him how many girls he slept with, his answer was always the same... "I can't complain, I do alright."
I don't doubt that there are some Men who are dating predators in the Online world, however population differentials alone wouldn't support a tremendous number of truly prolific daters. At some point, they are all overlapping eachother and most women aren't dying to line up for Players 2 through 15.
Of course, maybe you were using a different measure. When I think alot of conquests, I'm not thinking about a guy who juggles 2 or 3 girls for 6 months. I'm thinking about an entirely different class of performance... | |
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Posted: 7/3/2012 5:23:32 AM |
So them showing the users profile, naked , seperate bra and panty, naked pics of the same girls in the profile, the email conversations themselves screen shot off POF, with numbers given from loads of guys who are built and all talking on several websites for men into fitness etc. from America, the U.K. and Canada and they're all "lying" about meeting or not meeting these girls on here?? Even IF all of them were lying. These same girls who are on the site today have showed their true colors in email and in the pictures they're sending. Nice try but the dudes who know aren't buying it
Welcome to the internet, the world of being an instant "hero". Selfproclaiming and the internet are made for each other. Not dating related,but I'm a die hard flyfisherman and I am a member of a couple of fishing forums. PEOPLE love to brag and make themselves into "something". Well, the internet is the a perfect forum to to do so. If I believe everything that some guys(girls) say on those forums you would think that the flyfished for a living,when in fact, all they are doing is throwing some hero shots up and puffing their chests. A lot of people use the internet to basically make themselves feel good about themselves.
You can see here it sometimes. You can see it on blogs, FB,twitter,etc. And really, why wouldn't you use it???? You can basically touch base with millions of zillions of people pretty fast. Kinda increases the odds doesn't it???? People are funny sometimes, and will do almost anything for a little recognition,including dropping the linen and getting some nakey pics up for some to see.(it ain't that hard to get a hold of these,even if you DON'T know them personally.
The one rule all of us should always remember, is that just because it's on the net, does NOT make it true,no matter how much we wish it so. Which includes example that I just quoted. | |
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Posted: 7/3/2012 5:38:01 AM | Whatever research the OP doing isn't adjusting for the "quality" of the people that these people are going out with.
For instance, a lot of the "shirtless" guys with lack of grammar, no hobbies, no real depth, low income, etc. are going out with the uneducated, multiple kids + jobless, etc. women that are messaging them. That type tends to do best here because, being a free site with...minimal...design causes certain demographics to flourish, so you end up getting a lot of the same types dating each other. Put them on certain different sites, and their propensity drops.
To flip it around, would you go out with one of those women with bathroom mirror pics in a bra or trying their best to show off some cleavage while craning their backs ridiculously and simultaneously hiding stomach? I wouldn't even consider it, personally, but, yet, they get lots of dates/attention too from men who actually -want- that kind of thing (ugh). If you aren't accounting for standards, then you're missing a big chunk of the picture. | |
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Posted: 7/3/2012 9:50:17 AM |
Whatever research the OP doing isn't adjusting for the "quality" of the people that these people are going out with.
Quality? On a free dating site? You'd find better quality in real life. Anyone who needs to use online dating to find their 'perfect' person is obviously not cutting it in real life.
For instance, a lot of the "shirtless" guys with lack of grammar, no hobbies, no real depth, low income, etc. are going out with the uneducated, multiple kids + jobless, etc. women that are messaging them. That type tends to do best here because, being a free site with...minimal...design causes certain demographics to flourish, so you end up getting a lot of the same types dating each other. Put them on certain different sites, and their propensity drops.
So if you work out you must be of low intelligence. It can't possibly be guys with good grammar, hobbies etc talking amoungst each other on several forums devising plans on pulling women off here as it's already out on how to get the easy pickins off here. LOOK GREAT IN YOUR PICTURES. Aesthetic, cut up, shirltess beach or even mirror pic. And watch the 'qualities and women's perfect message requirements' go right out the window for the stud who'll make her 'look' better in front of her friends. First thing they think: Why is a woman needing to go online to find a man? Something's wrong with her. And over and over loads of women off this site are shown in email screen shots, pics etc posted on the sites as not what they'd advertise in public or on their profile filler.
I would discount it if it were a few guys doing it with a few people on here. But seeing myself a lot of men on various fitness forums, tons of threads, the screen shots of the conversations, numbers, pictures sent etc..well it's hard to deny the reality of where the girls that were on other free sites such as rhyme with liespace, adult friend minder and legslist went.. | |
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Posted: 7/3/2012 10:25:55 AM |
Quality? On a free dating site? You'd find better quality in real life. Anyone who needs to use online dating to find their 'perfect' person is obviously not cutting it in real life.
Nice generalization, but not true. While they are not the majority, I have encountered more than a few impressive women (8-9+ physically, as well as accomplished, intelligent, humorous, etc) both through my own dating experiences, but spotting profiles of Women who I KNEW for a fact from knowing them in RL that they were FAR from hard up for dates.
I also have known more than a handful of Men who were in similar positions. Accomplished, well adjusted, great personalities, handsome, etc. They were FAR from hard up for dates or interested Women.
The fact is, exceptional people of either sex are not common, online or in real life. That's why they're considered Exceptional people.
The only thing those people in common was that they were looking for an additional avenue to date. Some were on POF because they were sick of the bar scene, some because their RL schedules didn't allow them to meet people regularly, some because they wanted to add another option to meet people, and some because they had never tried Online dating and if they were going to feel something out, they figured why pay for it?
If anything, your posts indicates that you hold some bitterness towards your online dating experiences.
Personally, I hold a much LONGER view.
I've dabbled on and off with online dating since the late 80's (chat rooms and bulletin boards). I've seen it morph multiple times over the years, and it move from a fairly niche area (computer savvy, affluent and educated) to a mass market medium.
The only things that have changed are that 1) people are more savvy, 2) people are more cautious, and 3) you have a MUCH more general demographic.
Are there more scam artists and people who aren't interested in relationships online? Of course there are.. but there are also ALOT more people online in general. The main difference is that now you need better search, screening and communication skills to Find and initiate meaningful contact with interesting people among the masses of humanity.
And while I don't discount your own experiences with "fitness forums" and such, I think you also need to realize that you are at best dealing with a small subset of individuals, whose particular characteristics will appeal to a specific subset of people. To draw large inferences about 300,000 people from that would be no different than going to a Millionaire site and claiming every woman is a gold digger, or an infidelity site and claiming that all people want to do is cheat.
Anecdotal evidence does NOT accurately reflect a total population, regardless of how many of those forums you join, or how many posts you read.
There are some Exceptional dating prospects out there, some not so great prospects, but the bulk of people are going to be normal, average human beings. IE, not that much different than anywhere else.
The big differences between online and offline dating is that Online operates by different rules, with different risks, and different obstacles. | |
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Posted: 7/3/2012 10:42:21 AM | | I worked very, very hard at constructing my profile - which the details, are one facet of my multifaceted personality. I truly believe (breathe and live) what I preach, without alienating reasonably prospects. | |
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Posted: 7/3/2012 3:05:59 PM | There are statistics on how many people lie with regards to their online profiles. Women tend to lie mainly about body type and age. Men tend to lie about, well, almost everything and as a guy I find this insulting. No matter what we do, nice guys really do finish last every time. Being amazing human beings stands no chance against shirtless meatheads who spend most of their sexual encounters looking at themselves and flexing in the mirror, much like the American Psycho Patrick Bateman as played by Christian Bale.
The copy/paste method has one single advantage, quantity. Statistically speaking its all a numbers game.
The rare few of us who are real and decent and actually want a fulfilling, lasting relationship spend our time tirelessly going through profiles one by one and only selecting (usually a maximum of 5 possibles for myself at a time) those who fit the most into our criteria.
Do people lie on their profiles? Yes. Do people pretend to something they are not in their profiles? Yes. The innate danger in the online world is no matter what, you really have no idea who is on the other side ever. | |
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Posted: 7/3/2012 3:51:08 PM |
Quality? On a free dating site? You'd find better quality in real life. Anyone who needs to use online dating to find their 'perfect' person is obviously not cutting it in real life.
I thought I wrote that pretty easy to comprehend - perhaps I did not. Let me try again; in your tales you're hearing of these "shirtless" guys, are you hearing of the "quality" of woman they're picking up for sites like these? "Getting mad tail" does not explain what kind of "tail" they claim to be getting. just glancing at the ten or so different people who msged me in the last half week or so in my inbox, there's not one I'd contact back. How do you know these guys you speak of aren't using much selection at all and going for them all? For every "shirtless" guy, there's a woman with her boobs out in a mirror pic. Doesn't mean you'd particularly want that, personally, does it?
So if you work out you must be of low intelligence. It can't possibly be guys with good grammar, hobbies etc talking amoungst each other on several forums devising plans on pulling women off here as it's already out on how to get the easy pickins off here. LOOK GREAT IN YOUR PICTURES. Aesthetic, cut up, shirltess beach or even mirror pic. And watch the 'qualities and women's perfect message requirements' go right out the window for the stud who'll make her 'look' better in front of her friends. First thing they think: Why is a woman needing to go online to find a man? Something's wrong with her. And over and over loads of women off this site are shown in email screen shots, pics etc posted on the sites as not what they'd advertise in public or on their profile filler.
I would discount it if it were a few guys doing it with a few people on here. But seeing myself a lot of men on various fitness forums, tons of threads, the screen shots of the conversations, numbers, pictures sent etc..well it's hard to deny the reality of where the girls that were on other free sites such as rhyme with liespace, adult friend minder and legslist went..
Where'd you get the work out = low intelligence thing from? Look at my picture to the side there - does it look like I -don't- work out? The difference between say, "shirtless mirror pic" and "pic" is not "work out"; it's that a person that is wise or has an amount of standards knows that you'll end up turning off more (or better) people than you net again from those types of pictures. I'm not going to lose a world traveling professor to gain a penniless mom of two kids who lives with her mom, in other words.
I'd agree with you that -this- free site is total crap for choices of women I'd actually date, which is why I'm typically here for fun as opposed to serious. My profile (here) is basically just random pics and making fun of the site, after all. And guys like that will do better -here- because of the type of woman that frequents here more often. But once they move onto the pay sites, they don't do as well as the guys that don't present themselves like that, given they have the same attributes, normally because they're dealing with more professionals who are on dating sites due to not having time to meet people in the "real" world due to being professional, or who just use it as an alternative WHILE meeting people in the "real" world as well. | |
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