| | Cherry Pie, Suggestive lyrics: Part of man's dating frustrations??Page 1 of 1 | | We hear suggestive rock lyrics everyday. The one I just heard was , "Let Me Rock Your Cradle." Some famous others include "Cherry Pie," "Let's Spend the Night Together." and "I can't Get No Satisfaction." The point I'm trying to make is, in the lyrics, men are talking quite openly to woman and make no bones about it, they want something and want it now. Does this continual reinforcement, of listening to these lyrics day in and day out, play into men's frustrations when they make perhaps go overboard with a kiss on the first date? Or a suggestive phrase on a first date? Or other problems? In other words, seems to be a double standard between contemporary music and real life. | |
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| Cherry Pie, Suggestive lyrics: Part of man's dating frustrations??
Posted: 7/6/2012 4:23:42 PM | I seriously doubt most men are impacted that significantly by song lyrics. I don't feel the need to kill someone when I listen to Bohemian Rhapsody.
If a man listens to a song and then thinks "now I HAVE to get a kiss tonight" then he needs therapy and should NOT be dating.
Maybe you need to change the songs you listen to. Try classical music with no lyrics before a date? | |
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| Cherry Pie, Suggestive lyrics: Part of man's dating frustrations??
Posted: 7/6/2012 10:51:08 PM | | Obviously every type of media outlet, music, television, radio affects us in some way if we're paying attention to the message. We may be repulsed, we may be titilated, we may be bored and we may be interested. Just meant to ask, the repeated messages we get from music must have an effect on our minds, whether good or bad. It would be interesting to hear from the male element here. After all they have gone through similar experiences as me in becoming a man. I don't think any purpose is served by making this a personal afront on me. Just because I asked a question meant to get people thinking. Not just give a smart-ass knee jerk response. | |
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| Cherry Pie, Suggestive lyrics: Part of man's dating frustrations??
Posted: 7/6/2012 11:31:41 PM | I agree - I can't wait to see some of the men respond to your question.
My response is not 'knee jerk'. It's based on your other post where you said you tried for a kiss even though you knew the woman was not likely to welcome it. And then wondered why she pulled away.
You are basically trying to provide an excuse for unwelcome advances or inappropriate comments towards a woman. The "the music made me do it" excuse.
Now I've heard everything. | |
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| Cherry Pie, Suggestive lyrics: Part of man's dating frustrations??
Posted: 7/7/2012 12:04:02 AM | No, I didn't mean your response but the other participant.
I agree. And it's not just music that affects us, I'm thinking also of the popular culture, on TV we're encouraged to do the extreme, it's encouraged in suggestive movies (adult movies) and even in popular family shows risque language and sexual content exists. Is there a double standard for things on radio and TV as opposed to real life? Some men, me included, may have trouble remembering that certain behaviors are not considered the norm or out of the ordinary. | |
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| Cherry Pie, Suggestive lyrics: Part of man's dating frustrations??
Posted: 7/7/2012 12:12:52 AM | We both gave honest answers and I have a feeling that this is one example where I'm not going to get the desired responses I was hoping for.
It is unfortunate that we can't offer free discussion here without saying that a certain party is wrong or has to have some couseling just because it doesn't strike home with you.
Is there a chance that men are taught certain things and women are taught certain things and they don't always mesh?
We're encouraged to be aggressive, outgoing even affectionate in public, by some accounts, yet women are not necessarily taught the same. Why do men who choose to kiss on a first date always wrong? Of course you wouldn't mind it if it were Tom Selleck. | |
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| Cherry Pie, Suggestive lyrics: Part of man's dating frustrations??
Posted: 7/7/2012 12:19:06 AM |
Some men, me included, may have trouble remembering that certain behaviors are not considered the norm or out of the ordinary Yes, and a lot of those men are in prison for sexual assault.
By your age you should have a good understanding on what is considered the 'norm'. You should be embarrassed to admit that your perception of reality is based on television shows and song lyrics.
I don't mean to offend you, but I'm not participating in this thread anymore. You either need to seek some therapy for how you think you can justify your actions or you are just trying to stir up the forums. | |
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| Cherry Pie, Suggestive lyrics: Part of man's dating frustrations??
Posted: 7/7/2012 12:23:57 AM | Having lived without a father in high school (he died when I was 15) and having lost a brother in Vietnam (I was 8), some of my male role models came from music and television, partly at least.
I don't need counseling. I live comfortably, have a bachelor of arts degree from Michigan State and havae been a full-time writer for 28 years. I wouldn't harm a fly and you could ask any person in the newsroom I work at. I was just asking an honest question is all. I only received a couple of responses. | |
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| Cherry Pie, Suggestive lyrics: Part of man's dating frustrations??
Posted: 7/7/2012 12:26:20 AM | I never said this: "You should be embarrassed to admit that your perception of reality is based on television shows and song lyrics."
I said I was influenced, partly, and it's an honest answer. All people are influenced in some way. And I'm not blaming songs or the media on my behaviors, merely suggesting there is some influence in them.
I haven't stirred anything up. I am not the one pointing fingers at someone and trying to lump them into sexual predators. I am defending my opinions which we have the freedom to discuss in our free country, which my brother died for you and me to defend. | |
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