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 WRadventure
Joined: 5/28/2012
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I have this issue where from time to time I will message a user, then I go to just see how the message looked and in the sent box the message is not there, I then hit back and hit 'send' again and it says 'message sent!' then I go check sent box, and the message is not there. I go message another person and it shows up in the sent box but the previous person's message does not still showup. is my message actually being sent or am I contacting them? I feel bad hitting the send button multiple times..wondering if my message is actually even being sent! I then consistently see the same users in my matches section when I have it set to 'do not show users I've contacted already'.

I am not receiving any message such as 'you do not meet the users criteria' or anything like that. I get the message that I see when I message every other user 'message sent!'.

I keep wondering if its maybe something in my messages such as the message maybe has too many line breaks or some sort of weird bug where the post just wont post due to too much text etc.. I would say my introductions aren't too long, usually about the size of half of this entire post.

I am using my computer to send the message not my iphone app. Also the iphone app sometimes does this as well when you hit send then it sends you back to the main screen and you go check your sent box and the message never actually sent or doesnt show up there.
 Blah_User_Name
Joined: 8/27/2011
Msg: 2
'message sent!' but check sent box and message is not there
Posted: 7/26/2012 2:47:35 AM
If it's not in your sent box, it wasn't sent. The fact that some of your messages go through and not others, suggests that it's a filter that is blocking you. The filter might be based on the content of your message or mail restrictions put in place by the person you are trying to contact. Also, initial messages are scrutinized higher by the system then messages going to those you've already exchanged mail with.

See here for possible reasons for mail not being sent.

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> ANSWERS TO FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS (FAQ)
> POF eMail (Questions about sending eMails on POF, Restrictions in Sending, Blocking etc.)
> Can't Find An eMail - Sent or Received
> eMails Sent but not showing up in the sent message area http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts5571514.aspx#5572308


Question:

Why are my E-Mail Messages not showing up in the Sent Msg/Outbox Area?

Possible Answers:

More than (4) Four duplicate E-Mails sent per Day.


The Site's Contact Filter has blocked you from e-mailing anyone who
has set their Mail Settings to block those who have previously messaged
others for Sex or Intimate Encounters.


The user has email blocked you, which subsequently removes any prior successfully sent messages.


More than (40) Forty 'First Contact' E-Mails per Day.


Do not enter any Telephone Numbers, or anything else that the Spam Filter may construe as a Telephone Number. Do not use more than 6 Numbers together such as Dates (1998-2003) even if separated by Spaces, Dashes, Periods, Parenthesis, Commas, etc.


Do not use Banking Terms, such as "Account", "Bank", "Transfer", Profanities or sexual Terms, the Names of Hosting Sites, Names of certain blocked Countries such as Nigeria, India, Russia, or anything else that could reasonably be expected to catch the Eye of the Site's Spam/Scam Filters.


Your E-Mail is too long, exceeding approx. 7,800 Characters


Do not use the ---> @ Symbol, non-resolvable Character Encodings, Unicode, Chinese or anything else the System Filter does not recognize in your Message.


You have not only composed and copied the Body of your ASCII (Plain Text) Message from your Text Editor into your E-Mail Message, but also your Text Editor's unrecognized, non-standard Formatting, Document Markup Languages or Control Characters. Use another Editor or don't use/turn off its formatting Functions.


Do not send HTML Links, Java Code or E-Mail Addresses.


Some Messages which contain any illegal Material or Activities such as "Drugs", "Rape", "Murder", etc. may be blocked.


That User has other Contact Restrictions per their Mail Settings. For these, you will receive a message back saying you can't contact the user.


You have a Mail Settings Restriction such as | Dating | and have e-mailed another User with the very same Restriction, or other such Mail Setting Conflict. You cannot block that in your Mail Settings what is also indicated in the Looking For Field in your Edit Profile


You, or the intended E-Mail Recipient, or both have a missing or incorrect
Postal Code Profile Entry, esp. a "75 Mile" Contact Restriction Limit in
either's Mail Settings.


You inadvertently edited the Recipients To: Field instead of the Subject Line and fired your E-Mail/Reply off to a Non-Existent User/E-Mail Address, or to a User who had deleted his Profile.


You have made Reply to an existing E-Mail in your Inbox, but changed
the Recipient in the To: Field of a User who has his/her Profile hidden,
and does not have you on his/her Favourites List. Since Mail Settings are hidden from View, Contact Restrictions can not be determined.


The Mail Recipient has made certain fundamental Changes to his/her Profile such as Change of User Name or Mail Settings but has not yet E-Mail Logged out, reflecting the Update.


That User E-Mail Blocked you subsequent to receipt of your Message, consequently your 'Sent Mail' disappeared from your Sent Msg/Outbox Folder. If that User then unblocked you, and you e-mailed again, the same Sequence could re-occur.


Your Browser's Options/Preferences are incorrect, Securities set to high, Plentyoffish.com not set as a Trusted Site, Cookies corrupt, Firewall Blocks, etc.


Another User has not E-Mail Logged out of their Plentyoffish Account from the same Computer using the same Browser, but you have E-Mail Logged into your Account sending E-Mails.


Your Browser's User Agent is concealed, corrupt or indicates the Presence of Malware, Trojan or Viral Infection.


A User's Profile was deleted, but not the actual User Account, resulting from massive Errors generated by a User trying to rig the Voting System utilizing automated Bots or other similar Types of Abuses.


That User's Profile may have been deleted.


There will also be unpublished filters put in place by the Admin for proprietary reasons, such as a high Percentage of E-Mail blocks or a high Contact-to-Complaint Ratio, etc. Unfortunately the above example is only one - there are others that will not be disclosed in order to disuade circumvention of those filters and blocks.
 eurotravellover1
Joined: 10/16/2011
Msg: 3
'message sent!' but check sent box and message is not there
Posted: 7/26/2012 8:06:31 AM
I've just had this happen to me for the first (and second) time and have no idea what the issue is (can only assume it is due to the two recipients having some sort of block). I find it frustrating that having taken the time and effort to type up a message, it doesn't go through presumably due to some sort of hidden block settings on the intended recipients profile. It would be much better if POF told you at the time of clicking the "Send User a Message" button that you can't send (as it does with visible restrictions) rather than wasting people's time allowing them to type messages that are never going to be allowed through by the system due to blocks at the other end.
 *Cowboy*
Joined: 4/28/2006
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Posted: 7/26/2012 8:32:19 AM

I've just had this happen to me for the first (and second) time and have no idea what the issue is (can only assume it is due to the two recipients having some sort of block
This is incorrect. When you are blocked by the user or any filters they set on their profile YOU GET A MESSAGE telling you that your message did not go through, it does not say sent.

When it says sent and it does not go through thats always POF's hidden first contact filters.

Your message was not sent for one of TWO very broad categories described above and in our FAQ's link at the top of this forum in more detail. But it was blocked due to either

1) message content of some sort. TONS of words, phrases, strings of numbers and all kinds of crap that can trip this filter.
or
2) Your recent posting history. There is a max of posts per day, max of copy and paste messages etc... When you start looking like a spammer they cut you off. Waiting 24 hours gets this released usually.


. It would be much better if POF told you at the time of clicking the "Send User a Message" button that you can't send (as it does with visible restrictions) rather than wasting people's time allowing them to type messages that are never going to be allowed through by sent


POF's first contact filters do NOT give an error message as they do NOT want the spammers to know they are blocked. They would just work their way around the filters. Not a good idea. And it does not warn you before typing a message for most user set restrictions either, despite what you posted. Only a very few tell you before you hit send after typing the message.

Now that you realize that all FIRST CONTACT messages are tightly monitored you should have no serious problems. I have been here 6 years, sent thousands of emails and never had one single first contact message blocked. If I can do this so can you. This is not that hard unless you are just spamming the women here with countless messages.

Cowboy
 WRadventure
Joined: 5/28/2012
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'message sent!' but check sent box and message is not there
Posted: 7/26/2012 5:14:19 PM
Honestly I believe my message didn't exceed 7800 characters. I messaged under 40 people(never really go over 5-10 people in a 24 hour period). Didn't discuss travel so countries wouldn't have been an issue for blocking. Did not mention phone numbers, message was unique to the user and it did say 'message sent!' thus must have been a hidden filter. Also no special characters that I know of were in the message. Wish I had it still to show. If it happens again I'll be sure to post it to have it evaluated if I cannot see it being one of the hidden filters above.

Thanks for the tips.
 *Cowboy*
Joined: 4/28/2006
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Posted: 7/26/2012 5:36:03 PM

Wish I had it still to show. If it happens again I'll be sure to post it to have it evaluated if I cannot see it being one of the hidden filters above.
If you only knew how many guys have claimed this over the years and then FINALLY figured it out.

Posting it here wont guarantee we will know the answer as the filters are proprietary info and change constantly.
ns should
But rather then posting your private messages here try and send it to a mod privately. I used to do this all the time.

Try THIS!!! Send a short nothing message like " Hi I loved your profile!". And see if it goes through. Only your posting history or their restrictions should block that. If that one is sent then POF's first contact filters should be released. Once one goes through you can send the longer one you are having probs sending

Try THAT for now. Just watch your sent messages closely

Cowboy
 WRadventure
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Posted: 7/26/2012 7:22:27 PM
yeah I tested that after I made this post. It did work right away when I wrote a different message to the user. Sucks because the first message was much better/more thoughtful of a introduction.
 *Cowboy*
Joined: 4/28/2006
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'message sent!' but check sent box and message is not there
Posted: 7/26/2012 7:34:39 PM
Then send it now to gher and explain..

He11 send it to me and let me take a peek at it. My email restrictions are open and I have some experience at this.
 artful150
Joined: 6/3/2010
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'message sent!' but check sent box and message is not there
Posted: 7/27/2012 6:23:43 AM
"I've just had this happen to me for the first (and second) time and have no idea what the issue is (can only assume it is due to the two recipients having some sort of block
This is incorrect. When you are blocked by the user or any filters they set on their profile YOU GET A MESSAGE telling you that your message did not go through, it does not say sent."

You are wrong! I have attempted to write a short note and while I was 'told' that the message was sent, it was not and there was no "message telling me that it was not sent" . I have had the "message not sent/allowed" and saw why in the restrictions but have had it occur when there was no posted restrictions!!!
 *Cowboy*
Joined: 4/28/2006
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Posted: 7/27/2012 6:30:36 AM

You are wrong! I have attempted to write a short note and while I was 'told' that the message was sent, it was not and there was no "message telling me that it was not sent"
Sorry no I am not. Read again carefully. Thats all we can pray for here to help you. This has been explained MULTIPL E times.

This is not a site problem it it is your message content or YOUR MESSAGING HISTORY HERE

Did that hep clear this up at all. I hate to shout but for some thats the only way to get through. TWO explanations THATS ALL.

Cowboy
 Devon_Sand
Joined: 4/4/2012
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'message sent!' but check sent box and message is not there
Posted: 7/27/2012 3:24:27 PM
Hi, I wrote a reply to someone today (we have been chatting for 24hours so initial contact over) but my message to them didn't send. I checked over the message following the boards and couldn't find anything wrong so tried again with the same problem.
Next tried a hi my messages are not sending, does this reach you? And that had the same problem... So now unable to message him back. If there is a block triggered does anyone know how long that lasts for? As don't want to keep trying as will no doubt make matters worse?!
 3ffervescent
Joined: 7/1/2010
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'message sent!' but check sent box and message is not there
Posted: 7/27/2012 3:27:35 PM
Try sending me a message...

I don't have any restrictions that should prevent it.
 Devon_Sand
Joined: 4/4/2012
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Posted: 7/27/2012 3:43:28 PM
Message has been sent to you... But you don't appear in conversation or sent messages. Did you receive it?
 3ffervescent
Joined: 7/1/2010
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Posted: 7/27/2012 3:45:02 PM
I got it and sent a reply.
 3ffervescent
Joined: 7/1/2010
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Posted: 7/27/2012 3:55:05 PM
A couple of days ago someone had a similar glitch happening...

If you want to message the person you have been chatting with, send them a message from their profile page -

perhaps explain the technical difficulties you have been having with the site at the moment and offer them a hotmail address to continue correspondence --
or tell them to message you from your profile too (rather than replying to messages in the POF inbox)
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