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 koss78a

Joined: 7/10/2005
Msg: 1
gun control in the usa
Posted: 8/6/2005 11:16:59 AM
Too many americans, think by owning a gun, you are safe.

Guns are too many in the states.

People should be limited to how many guns they can have and how they can get guns.

more tighter controls

however the problem is now coming to canada, lots of guns on black market
just recently there was 6 people murder in less the 24 hours in the city of Toronto
all gang related

i say rid the world of guns
 team green

Joined: 8/6/2005
Msg: 2
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Posted: 8/6/2005 11:19:50 AM
then what will come of the nra? lol
 Huisatcheman

Joined: 7/31/2005
Msg: 3
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Posted: 8/6/2005 11:21:04 AM
I say, NO to gun control. The people have the right to bear arms. Let the chips fall where they may, but never give up what may be a necessity for survival in the unknown future. Disarming the citizens will never work, never has, never will.
 team green

Joined: 8/6/2005
Msg: 4
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Posted: 8/6/2005 11:21:57 AM
how about two fists? would drop the death toll for sure. Guns cause more damage then for the lame excuse of protection.
 Huisatcheman

Joined: 7/31/2005
Msg: 5
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Posted: 8/6/2005 11:29:51 AM
WEll, how bout this. What's next? Get rid of kichen knives, or all knives in general. Get rid of bows and arrows. How about bombs,,hell, we can't even find them. Baseball bats make lethal weapons. Chemicals kill a lot of things. Food contamination can kill. Do we ban all these things? No, I vote we keep the guns for protection againest the millions who have them stashed and will never report ownership. Gun control is a farce, designed only to take away guns from law-abiding, decent citizens. The criminal elements are laughing their asses off about this great idea to boost their crimes. Sure, let's just disarm the law abiding citizens and the gutsy millions who support the NRA, and see what happens. Get a fukin brain!
 team green

Joined: 8/6/2005
Msg: 6
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Posted: 8/6/2005 11:33:12 AM
you're taking it out of context now. "Gun control" not "knife control" etc....
 lola05

Joined: 7/1/2005
Msg: 7
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Posted: 8/6/2005 12:13:03 PM
Introducing ~> Huisatcheman



" I say, NO to gun control. "
" Gun control is a farce, designed only to take away guns from law-abiding, decent citizens."
" Sure let's just disarm the law abiding citizens and the gutsy millions who support the NRA
... and see what happens. Get a fukin brain!


Ahemmm,



(~ Thread : Violence Against Women Act II - Msg: 77 ~ Posted: 8/1/2005 by Huisatcheman)

" Blackmanx, there are instances of women abusing men. No doubt about it. But in this
society, men in particular don't believe in using such things as woman abuse as significant enough to warrant a warrant. So kill the bytchs. "


~ . . . . . . . . . .
 koss78a

Joined: 7/10/2005
Msg: 8
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Posted: 8/6/2005 2:10:40 PM
u people should realize, u dont need those stupid guns, get rid of them

guns dont protect u at all, u dont have a right to bare arms!!!
 Sparklepants

Joined: 7/6/2005
Msg: 9
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Posted: 8/6/2005 2:16:08 PM
I most certainly do have the right to bare arms! I love my sleeveless tops and I'm proud of my toned arms!

 robert_paulson

Joined: 7/28/2005
Msg: 10
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Posted: 8/6/2005 2:50:40 PM
On behalf of the millions of responsible Canadian firearms owners, I completely disagree with the OP, who seems uninformed about both Canadian and US law.
 CountIbli

Joined: 6/1/2005
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Posted: 8/6/2005 4:23:25 PM
Koss, I think we should start the disarming of Americans with the police. What say you?
 mauser

Joined: 1/3/2005
Msg: 12
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Posted: 8/6/2005 9:50:29 PM

guns dont protect u at all,


What would you use for protection?


u dont have a right to bare arms!!!


Unlike Canada Yes we do have the right to bere arms. Second amendment
 BarnBabe

Joined: 5/12/2005
Msg: 13
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Posted: 8/7/2005 3:12:59 AM
Okay, I'm going to get serious here for a moment. Hate me if you want to.

I'm AGAINST gun control. Yes I know I'm a woman. And it's rare.

I own a gun. It was given to me by my dad for my 18th birthday. I keep it within reach of where I sleep.

Imagine someone breaks into your house. Home invasion robberies are common in the States. I don't know how it is in Canada. The invaders are usually armed. And they're not armed with guns obtained legally. So you're asleap and your home is invaded by a guy toting a gun. Are you going to go after him with fists? With a baseball bat? Are you going to hide under the dining room table? I, personally, am not.

I'm going to protect myself. I've been trained to do so.

So if gun control gets more strict, who's going to be on the losing side here? The people who get them legally? Or the people who get them illegally.

Do you people honestly think that if the rules become more strict it will lessen the amount of illegal firearms on the street? Right. Drugs are illegal too, but they're still there. All gun control is going to do is make easier victems.

Jeff Foxworthy made a joke that actually applies here. He describes two houses. One with a mowed lawn, flower beds, shining clean driveway. The second house has waist high grass, peeling paint, and a car motor hanging from a tree. He said which one is going to get robbed? The answer was, not the house with the high grass BECAUSE THERE'S A GUN IN THERE.

If everyone were armed, and knew how to properly use their weapons, there would be less crime. If the bad guys knew that most people had guns and were willing and trained to use them, they'd be a bit more hesitant to commit the crime, wouldn't they? Take Switzerland. Everyone there is armed. Most carry concealed weapons. Lowest crime rate in the world. Something to think about.

Anyway.. I know I'll get flack for this, but that's life. And that's my opinion.
 Huisatcheman

Joined: 7/31/2005
Msg: 14
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Posted: 8/7/2005 4:47:39 AM
In my comments on bats, knives, etc. I was making a point as to how ridiculous gun control is. Do you think criminals go into a gun store to make their purchases? Hell, you can present gun control all you want. I will get one on the street within an hour. But first you have to come break into my house, and see who gets to the gun first. As far as ,,lola?? Are you following me?? I joke a lot. Some can't tell the difference.
 MountainGirl

Joined: 1/12/2005
Msg: 15
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Posted: 8/7/2005 6:42:37 AM
If some one forced their way into my home and demanded my gun, I would give it to them.

First I would give them the bullets.

Then the spent shells after I reload.

Then the rest of the bullets.

When I am done I will ask if they still want the gun.

If they do not answer I'll drag their sorry ass outside and kick them down the back stairs for messing up my carpets.
 koss78a

Joined: 7/10/2005
Msg: 16
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Posted: 8/7/2005 7:00:43 AM
from the posts here, i agree that all americans are very niave, if there was less people with guns, there would be less crime
most people should not own a gun, most dont know how to use them, or should not use them
reason, americans are a very uneducated people, most americans dont know their geography, most dont even know where iraq is on a map, much less many dont know where the USA is on a map, many americans dont even know where their own state is on a map, talk about ignorance, most americans think canadians live in igloos. so that goes with the mentallity, most of the people in many states dont even know how to read, for example, state of alabama has a 80% of people there dont know how to read properly, so what does that say. inconclusion get rid of your guns!
having a gun in the house, makes things more dangerous
people think they are safe, they are not cause they dont know how to use a gun and watch too much violent tv
since when was the last time steven seagal broke into your house
 MajMikeW

Joined: 10/9/2004
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Posted: 8/7/2005 7:12:50 AM
koss

I was going to ignore your gun control rant until I saw this last post.

Americans can be naive, but the rest of your rant was just asinine. We are not an 'uneducated' people, I'm pretty sure we could all find America on a map (Iraq as well, due to the war), nobody thinks Canadians live in igloos (even the Eskimo's don't use them much anymore, unless on a hunting trip), and only a small percentage of our people can't read (as with Canadians), even in Alabama.

I agree that folks who own guns need to train with them and store them safely when not in use, and most gun owners do exactly that.

I have a quote for you:

"The right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken seriously."
Hubert H. Humphrey

With your made up numbers and obvious disdain for all things American (as is your right) nobody here need listen to anything you say. If you want to have a rational debate I'm all for that, but you need to lose this "holier than thou" crap.

MajMike
 mauser

Joined: 1/3/2005
Msg: 18
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Posted: 8/7/2005 7:40:45 AM
Is this guy for real? For some reason I don't think that he should be making any blanket statements about peoples ability to read.

BTW
According to a data set composed by the world bank in 2000. The mean education level for Americans was 12 years. Canada was 11.6.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/edu_ave_yea_of_sch_of_adu

I would love to know where you obtained your numbers from.
 foxefire

Joined: 2/23/2005
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Posted: 8/7/2005 8:02:14 AM
however the problem is now coming to canada, lots of guns on black market
just recently there was 6 people murder in less the 24 hours in the city of Toronto
all gang related

i say rid the world of guns


I say rid the world of gangs!
 Thin_Man

Joined: 5/15/2005
Msg: 20
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Posted: 8/7/2005 8:55:18 AM
Hi foxefire!
That would help and could be possible but there will have to be lots of willpower ,time and resources to law enforcement internationally to do this. Just recently in Canada,Motorcycle gangs like the Hell's Angels was declared criminal organizations and dozens of thier members have been arrested for many offenses(Drugs,firearms,extortion etc..)
 wonwascallywabbit

Joined: 7/20/2005
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Posted: 8/7/2005 11:37:01 AM
As an American that has lived in (not just visited) many countries I can say for a fact you can obtain a weapon within 30 minutes of leaving an airport in any country including England and the Netherlands which have seriously strict gun control laws for law abiding citizens. And there it is LAW ABIDING CITIZENS, that is who these laws target. I live in the country, the police are a minimum of one hour away thats a fact. You can spew out all the skewed numbers you want. In the end anyone that wants a gun anywhere can get one. I agree with mountain girl whole heartedly. I probably value life more than most and respect others property just as much. But I am more than happy to loose that mindset should you attempt to inflict harm on me and mine. I have two teenage daughters at home who have gone through weapons courses, why, hell ya just never know anymore. No a gun cannot protect you from everything, much the same all the medicine in the world doesn't stop disease. If you don't want one don't buy one, if you don't want to get shot, don't get caught stealing in someones yard.
 MountainGirl

Joined: 1/12/2005
Msg: 22
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Posted: 8/7/2005 11:44:30 AM
Koss;

F.Y.I. (For Your Information)

I have three masters degrees.

My Husband was a Doctor. (Cancer got him.)

I goto the Sheriff's pistol range almost every other month.

My Husband and I were involved in the Boys and Girls Club on a regular basis.

You don't know what you are talking about.
 Tomorow

Joined: 4/26/2004
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Posted: 8/7/2005 12:16:54 PM
You are talking about restricting someone's personal freedom. All personal freedoms come with a price tag (in lives) attached to them. Why? Because any freedom can be abused. For example, we do not have the government mandating what we eat because even though we are on average less capable than a panel of nutritionists to determine what is good for us, we would consider it an intrusion. As a result we lead happier, but probably shorter, lives.

Same with owning guns. Countries with relatively lax gun control laws see more deaths per capita by guns. That is the price that their citizens pay for the freedom to own them. You believe that too many people own guns, and they own too many. Some other person might decide that you shouldn't drink or smoke, or that you read objectionable books or watch too much porn. Canada restricts the freedoms of law-abiding adults more than enough as it is.
 koss78a

Joined: 7/10/2005
Msg: 24
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Posted: 8/7/2005 1:21:54 PM
well may be the govt should restrict the foods that we can get

the whole countries are obese

bad food should be banned
 lola05

Joined: 7/1/2005
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Posted: 8/7/2005 1:49:17 PM
^^^^^^

In case you haven't all, ..figured it out yet.

This guy, is .. Playing you people, .. Right down to his ... phoney "virgin" profile.

( it.. Is.. startling, sometimes, .. how some people . . amuse themselves )
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