| Airlines: Do they have right to forcibly search you?
Posted: 8/16/2005 11:40:17 AM | Should the airlines have the right to forcibly search you?
IMO
Yes.
When boarding a plane I would rather feel safe. It would be comforting to know that everyone boarding the plane with me was thoroughly searched. If you have nothing to hide then this shouldn't be a problem. | |
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| Airlines: Do they have right to forcibly search you?
Posted: 8/16/2005 11:57:43 AM | I don't think the question is phrased right. "Forcibly search you?" It is simply a matter of saying if you don't allow yourself to be searched, you don't get on the plane.
Now if you have wires sticking out of you and you have a crazed look. Security can tackle you and search. That is different.
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| Airlines: Do they have right to forcibly search you?
Posted: 8/16/2005 12:01:32 PM | yes they should search but i SWEAR someone is watching somewhere pushing a button and making that wand beep.
i was flying to england and i set the walk through detector off so they busted out the wand and it only beeped over my breasts and hips. again and again.
so that required the pat down. of only my breasts and hips. it was kinda funny and security knew i was uncomfortable but they were very nice | |
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| Airlines: Do they have right to forcibly search you?
Posted: 8/16/2005 12:11:00 PM | | That is a tough one, with two sides for justifying each answer. My personal opinion is that there are too many Constitutional issues in conflict to do so. On the other hand, I have read that if one flies El Al in Israel, such searches are/were mandatory. But, the info I posted re: El Al is not current, and I am unaware if it has changed. | |
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| Airlines: Do they have right to forcibly search you?
Posted: 8/16/2005 12:58:56 PM | Almost four years after 9/11, and one has to ask that question ?
How quickly we forget.
On a related note, it looks like the USA may relax security regulations - and let knives under five inches on board airplanes again. | |
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| Airlines: Do they have right to forcibly search you?
Posted: 8/16/2005 2:28:51 PM |
Air marshals have been deployed.****it doors are now locked. Access to the****it is now impossible for a passenger, and we can now relax the rules on certain items."
From April 25, passengers will be permitted to carry knitting needles and scissors with blades shorter than 3cm in their hand luggage.
British Airways managers said ministers had taken a "sensible" course by allowing their passengers to once again eat with steel knives and forks.
"We are very keen to get metal cutlery back on our aircraft," a spokesman said.
"Our customers were certainly not enamoured by it. If you are sitting in a first class seat and getting served a rather nice meal on porcelain plate, it was rather strange to have to eat it with a couple of plastic implements."
http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/travel/news/s/153/153402_airline_security_relaxed.html
Also happening in the USA, I saw it on CNN this morning.
Enjoy that first class meal ! | |
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| Airlines: Do they have right to forcibly search you?
Posted: 8/16/2005 4:10:38 PM |
Should the airlines have the right to forcibly search you? Flying is not a right, it's a privilege. The Constitution is fine with this, and I really wish citizens were too (although I've found that most are, thankfully.) If you don't want to accept the service as it's offered, don't buy the ticket. | |
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| Airlines: Do they have right to forcibly search you?
Posted: 8/16/2005 4:28:05 PM | | Let me tell ya a little story...a friend of mine was going to Hawaii with his sister. The night before there was a little going away party where lots of smoke was passed around. The next day at the airport a nice dog came over and sat next to my friend. He said "hey sis look,this dog likes me!" Apparently he wore the same clothes he had on the night before. When the authorities found no pot on his person they took him in the back room and 'forceably searched him' if you know what I mean,(as in cavity)nudge nudge wink wink. The moral of the story is air out your dirty laundry before you travel. | |
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| Airlines: Do they have right to forcibly search you?
Posted: 8/16/2005 6:20:04 PM | Well, you can either consent or not fly, so I'd say... no. But they certainly can "force" a search if you're insistant on flying. lol
(Don't apologize for your wording... it's your question, no one else's.) | |
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| Airlines: Do they have right to forcibly search you?
Posted: 8/16/2005 6:20:20 PM | @ Montreal Guy
Like I said I agree, would rather be safe than dead. Personally would rather not fly unless I absolutely have to, only ever done once. I am from Canada, and if the US gov't info is right and some of the terrorists entered the US through Canada then I apologize for our stupidity. However, they also had to get through US customs, so we are both to bla
I have noticed on these forums that peoples opinions differ, as in gun control, abortion etc. After hearing the question on tv today I wanted to know what people thought.
To be foricbly searched would be a violation of human rights according to the US constitution. When you enter the law, and the constitution into the mix, would this open the door for lawsuits in this area. | |
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| Airlines: Do they have right to forcibly search you?
Posted: 8/16/2005 6:28:32 PM | @nittanylion
Naw, tv's question (maybe Maury). Just thought was interesting question?
Would this not open the door for lawsuits from people because it is a violation of their rights according to the constitution? Would it cut down on travel, because some items will make you beep. | |
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| Airlines: Do they have right to forcibly search you?
Posted: 8/16/2005 6:37:57 PM | | It seems obvious that the answer is yes, but I wonder where it ends. Should Starbucks have the right to search you before allowing you into the building? Sure, you can't fly a Starbucks into a building, but I could conceal a small bomb on my person and kill a bunch of people. Or do it with a handgun. | |
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| Airlines: Do they have right to forcibly search you?
Posted: 8/16/2005 6:40:51 PM | It seems obvious that the answer is yes, but I wonder where it ends. Should Starbucks have the right to search you before allowing you into the building? Sure, you can't fly a Starbucks into a building, but I could conceal a small bomb on my person and kill a bunch of people. Or do it with a handgun.
Agreed, so does this mean that the priorities lie in how many people's lives could be lost?
Airlines equal greater loss, therefore its ok? | |
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| Airlines: Do they have right to forcibly search you?
Posted: 8/16/2005 6:49:17 PM | I think part of it is practicality... it is much more practical to search passengers than coffee-drinkers, for a number of reasons, starting with the fact that TSA's don't drive away business, as a pat-down on line for an espresso probably will. 
PART of the line will be dictated by the Constitution, and part by what the American public is willing to tolerate. | |
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| Airlines: Do they have right to forcibly search you?
Posted: 8/16/2005 7:18:00 PM | I have a real problem with all this post 9/11 Homeland Security stuff.Then again one can argue that these are private companies and they can make their own rules about searching that aren't subject to constitutional rights.
But then I'm a conspiracy buff and I don't buy into all I'm being told.Whenever the "authorities" or "establishment" says,"This is for your safety".I tend to take it with a grain (no make that a pound) of salt.If the government says,"we're here to help you,"just replace the word "help" with the word,"screw" and you'll be more on target with their intent. | |
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| Airlines: Do they have right to forcibly search you?
Posted: 8/16/2005 7:25:28 PM | To the girl with the beeping chest...it was probably wire in your bra if there was any. It's not a conspiracy to let the security feel you up. joking
OT: Yes they do have the right. They have an entire plane of people to fly safely to their destination...these people paid for their tickets, and so did you...they're paying for space on the airlines plane...so the airline has the right to keep their plane safe. If you don't want to be searched by them, don't fly. Would you let someone in your car if they were drinking from an open bottle? Hopefully not...if you get pulled over, you get in shit right? The airlines get in much more trouble when shit hits the fan so they should be able to do everything they can to get the plane from point A to point B. | |
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| Airlines: Do they have right to forcibly search you?
Posted: 8/16/2005 7:57:47 PM | yes they do ...unfortunately a modicom of intelligence and wisdom is lacking in most airport security screeners
I left San Diego last May flying to Seattle.. I knew I would get searched because I was flying one way ..with govt travel orders and all of that
Screener asked me can I see your ticket ..I handed it to her..She looked at my backpack and asked me pointing at the side pocket ..what is this .. I said a satellite phone..she asked me to take it out and turn it on..no problem..I did ..
In 4 minutes I was being asked to go to a room and talk to a supervisor..I talked to her ..she asked me what I was there for and I said no idea...
Later found out screener didnt know what a sat phone was ...
ahhhh ..the joys of flying..
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| Airlines: Do they have right to forcibly search you?
Posted: 8/17/2005 3:52:04 PM | the US is quickly becoming a fascist, military-policed state ...corporations can and will do whatever they like ...it's also part of your conditioning process ...all your "rights & freedoms" are quickly being eliminated.
Absofukkinlutley!You're right about the Fascist Corporate States of Amerika.The so called "reason" is there.Now that the populace is frightened,get them to hand their freedom over on a silver platter.It's good to see someone else here who isn't asleep.Do a google search for the document "Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars".It's all there. | |
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| Airlines: Do they have right to forcibly search you?
Posted: 8/17/2005 4:07:00 PM | Hopefully airlines will always be private businesses. Therefore there would always be a lot of them. Therefore, you would have the choice: for those that think no searches are good, they can go on "No-search Airline".
For those that think random searches are adequate, they can go on "Random Airlines".
For those that desire maximum security, they can fly "Profile Airlines".
The private business scenario also applies to restaurants. This is in reflection of the decreasing rights of restaurant patrons as to smoking. I hate smoke. But I more vehemently hate the government telling private business people what to do, when the no-smoking people merely need to open the "No-Smoke Trattoria". | |
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