| Advice for Nice Guys (locked)
Posted: 8/24/2005 7:18:34 AM | first you need to determine if you're really nice or you just think you're nice but in reality you're just a little boring and whiny. or maybe a lot boring and whiny.
to be really, genuinely nice you MUST have a concern for all humankind. certainly not just yourself. you say you open doors for your gal but would hold open the door for everyone? if not, you're not nice. you just have a grasp on proper dating etiquette.
would you stop in heavy traffic to help someone push a broke down car out of the middle of the road? even if you have nice clothes on? even if she's elderly, ugly or a man?
when something is upsetting your ex do you have a genuine concern for her suffering? no matter what she's put you through or what you put her through?
when your new lady friend is a little mopey over what's going on in her life, pms, or even a former flame do you care? i mean really really care that she's upset no matter what the reason?
do you put yourself out for people then never say a word about the inconvenience?
if someone points out how nice you are do you say no, i'm just a regular guy and MEAN it?
if you can't positively answer these questions then you ARE just a regular guy. just because you don't cheat, lie, beat your wife or steal from old ladies does not necessarily make you nice. sorry.
now, if you've made the cut and you are nice and you think you are being shat upon by the rest of the world then you're a fool. if you think others consider you a doormat then they're the fools. stop wasting your time on them
it's BS to think genuinely nice guys always finish last. they don't. if that's something you hold to be true on all occassions, chances are you aren't really a nice guy.
my advice to you would be to look for the women at the bars who are holding all their girlfriends purses while they dance and flirt. she'll love you forever.
[Locked it to keep "nice guys" threads at bay. Despite being chock full'o'chat, I didn't want to delete it. /Forum_Moderator] | |
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Posted: 8/24/2005 7:24:22 AM | i used to do all those things for people and more (the good things) but ive noticed this world has alot of bs in it, so thats why ive became a cycnic and a sarcastic animal, dont get me wrong i help old ladies across the street and all that jazz, it does give me a good feeling to help a neighbour put up a fence and stuff but ive gotten to the point where i should look out for myself lately because for me, the only person that'll get me through life (and i should be nice to) is me.
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Posted: 8/24/2005 7:27:38 AM | hey i know the world is tough and i never claimed to be nice myself but i still think that's kinda sad.
so i think you don't officially make the nice guys cut, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
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Posted: 8/24/2005 7:56:05 AM | I used to think I was a nice guy but it just turns out i'm a regular joe.
It's hard to be the nice guy all the time. | |
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Posted: 8/24/2005 8:19:47 AM | I've grown sarcstic and cynical myself over being nice to ppl, too many people just take advantage of that, and you end up an unwitting accessory to something more sinister than you can really stand.
Don't get me wrong, I'm a nice guy, but I'm getting kind of jaded, especially in the romance department, by the results of being nice. Sometimes I think we were meant more to act like sharks then caring primates, but that's just my jaded 2 cents worth. | |
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Posted: 8/24/2005 8:30:42 AM | | maybe, just maybe, if we were all nicer to each other none of us would end up jaded | |
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Posted: 8/24/2005 8:53:31 AM |
It's hard to be the nice guy all the time.
Agreed. Sometimes you have to be a "prick" just to take care of yourself. | |
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kce33
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Joined: 6/2/2005
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| Advice for Nice Guys
Posted: 8/24/2005 8:59:44 AM | hey cutie
fantastic post, everything you said has alot of valid truths to your statements...
i knew that i was a nice guy and i never finish last..
ps, i still looking for the snarky news lmao
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Posted: 8/24/2005 9:08:35 AM | | I used to think I was a "nice guy" until I joined POF. Now, the fems here have informed me otherwise. I am crushed. | |
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Posted: 8/24/2005 9:36:30 AM | | Hey, I open doors for old ladies and I have given blood before! I am really proud of how nice I am, but theres a limit...I need to be myself and unwind. That means be sarcastic tell crude jokes tickle...tackle and be a little mean. I never will understand women and I never want to, because to do so would make me femminine....look at John Gray....woo! I am romantic, but the law of diminished returns is one I follow most of the time. Many times for whatever reason a man can do nothing to please a lady and then the same lady will fall for you in a cirminstance that seems ridiculous.....You can be honest with a lady and she will blow you off. You can lie to a woman and she will...........or vice versa. I think a man should own a nice lab and make that his support system...I mean they in general will love and accept you more than any woman. Woman don't need men today......men need to wake up! Women want the benifets and not the job. Kind of like men? Oh when you read most peoples profile there full of B.S. Most people want to feel good! That means excitement...assets...trips...clothes...romance...sex...and even worship ( you worship them) People are looking for the tailor ordered guy or gal....only one thing the tailor is no where to be found. So guys watch football, grunt, swear and be sarcastic and lude (a little goes a long way)...because that's what most women like..... in spite of themselves......oh make some money too.....and be willing to spend it! | |
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Posted: 8/24/2005 9:52:24 AM |
Hey, I open doors for old ladies and I have given blood before! I am really proud of how nice I am, but theres a limit...I need to be myself and unwind. That means be sarcastic tell crude jokes tickle...tackle and be a little mean. I never will understand women and I never want to, because to do so would make me femminine....look at John Gray....woo! I am romantic, but the law of diminished returns is one I follow most of the time. Many times for whatever reason a man can do nothing to please a lady and then the same lady will fall for you in a cirminstance that seems ridiculous.....You can be honest with a lady and she will blow you off. You can lie to a woman and she will...........or vice versa. I think a man should own a nice lab and make that his support system...I mean they in general will love and accept you more than any woman. Woman don't need men today......men need to wake up! Women want the benifets and not the job. Kind of like men? Oh when you read most peoples profile there full of B.S. Most people want to feel good! That means excitement...assets...trips...clothes...romance...sex...and even worship ( you worship them) People are looking for the tailor ordered guy or gal....only one thing the tailor is no where to be found. So guys watch football, grunt, swear and be sarcastic and lude (a little goes a long way)...because that's what most women like..... in spite of themselves......oh make some money too.....and be willing to spend it![quote/] um.............  just an fyi.............you're not a nice guy. you don't even know what it means. so, according to you, watching football makes you not nice? i reiterate - and lude is spelled lewd. | |
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Posted: 8/24/2005 9:58:26 AM | | ummm...I qualify as a yes on most of those. But I don't think of myself as a nice guy..or as regular. There is a certain matter of the motivations for doing so.. Ehh..I'm just thinking of Kant right now and wondering about doing things because they make you feel good, or because they are your duty. And which one is the better virtue. hmmm..anyone read Kant or some philosophical ethics with some input on the subject? | |
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Posted: 8/24/2005 10:01:09 AM | i haven't read kant.
i think doing nice things should make you feel good and in some cases, should be your duty. | |
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Posted: 8/24/2005 10:09:40 AM | I guess I really do pass. I always thought I was just average but according to that criteria, I'm not doing too bad at all. Sainthood here I come!
But seriously, I used to think that too. Nice guys did finish last, that is, until I got out of high school. Now it's a whole different ballgame.
Cheers, | |
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Posted: 8/24/2005 10:21:54 AM | Dang, I ain't even close to being nice!..Why hold open a door for someone who's only gonna race me to the checkout line! Nah, I ain't bein nice to nobody...Ah shoot, I just remebered I gotta get to my mom's house and mow the grass.
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woozoo
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Joined: 6/14/2005
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| Advice for Nice Guys
Posted: 8/24/2005 10:38:52 AM | Si,
Thanks for attempting to put to paper what you consider a nice guy. But let's face facts, these qualities and behaviour are through your eyes and not by general consensious.
I would like to put forward an alternative theory (if I may):
Nice guys don't consider themselves nice guys. That's what other people call them. I do not profess to be a nice guy (in fact, I've been known not to be nice), yet a good many folks that know me have told me I'm a nice guy. The point I'm trying to make is that it's not a self imposed title, it must be bestode by others
Your thoughts? | |
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Posted: 8/24/2005 10:45:42 AM | Good post SICutie, amd right on  . I know I am a nice guy, But at the same time I do have oppinions that I exspress, I am funny and strong self confident and throw in being naughty. I don't finish last. As far as being nice I will give you an example. I have 2 elderly women as neigbors. One is 78 and the other is 85. I have gone over to their place countless times to help fix things for them. I never exspect any thing from them. Evan though they have offered to pay me for it. I always tell them that they don't owe me a thing. They call me Mr.fix it. . I would do the same thing for neigbors if they were younger. I offer to help and feel good to do it. In fact last night I took the 78 year old out to dinner, then we came home and watched a movie. The reward I got was some laughs and a hug and peck on the cheek. Wasn't that was sweet. I almost forgot I got some good company. | |
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Posted: 8/24/2005 11:03:16 AM | | I am sooooo tired of all these men on the forums professing to be the "nice guy". If we're all the nice guy, then who are the idiots we hear the women complaining about all the time? Enough with the nice guy thing....thats for someone else to determine. | |
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Posted: 8/24/2005 11:03:55 AM | When I grow up I want to be a "Nice Guy", until then I'm going to be the one dancin and flirtin.
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Posted: 8/24/2005 11:33:46 AM | | I've been told I am "too good hearted"....I don't think I'm a "nice" guy, not by these standards...My Question is: What's the difference to you between too good hearted and nice guy. | |
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Posted: 8/24/2005 11:36:23 AM |
I can deliver the eulogy.
Thanks make it simple, maybe say something about me being a "Nice Guy"
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Posted: 8/24/2005 11:40:00 AM | | okay, but only if after i say that, i can puke all over you. | |
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Posted: 8/24/2005 11:45:19 AM | .
The trick of a good joke writer is to take a little grain of truth and stretch it way out of proportion until the point of absurdity is almost reached. Then, hope it is funny.
The original post captured my attention and elicited a few snickers. But, darn, it’s unfinished material. There was no punch-line! Nonetheless, I find that it is still a good foundation for very humorous routine and will await what could be a really funny windup.
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Posted: 8/24/2005 11:46:59 AM | woozoo - i put in the post that a real nice guy would say no, he's just a regular guy and MEAN that. you're right it is DEFINITELY a title bestowed by others
jm - awww | |
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