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| People that don't have~nor EVER want kids..what do you think?
Posted: 8/26/2005 10:30:26 AM | I have met a lot of people (guys and gals), that state that they don't have..nor do they EVER want children. Maybe it's just me, but, I find it sooooo hard to understand as to how some people can resist these beautiful little creatures. I also believe that we were put on this earth for the sole purpose of pro-creation...so it puzzles me when someone says they don't want children.
What are your veiws about people that choose not to have children? Do you think they are selfish? I really don't think they are selfish, but, how can they resist their most primal instinct...which is to pro-create?
Anyone that has made this choice..can you shed some light on this matter for me..care to share as to why you have chosen not to carry on your blood-line?  | |
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| People that don't have~nor EVER want kids..what do you think?
Posted: 8/26/2005 10:32:50 AM | I dont know how fond I am of babies.
but the idea of raising a son.
from a baby to a man.
it,s something I will be doing in my life anyway.
a daughter on the other hand.
I would be lost. mom would have to be there.
how does a man raise a woman? | |
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| People that don't have~nor EVER want kids..what do you think?
Posted: 8/26/2005 10:40:39 AM | A long time ago there were people who believed that concieving children was the
entrapment of free-floating souls. Life is not something we should be subjected to.
If I were to procreate I would want to have vast resources and several years
of schooling in the subject. The thought of going about parenting unprepared
is terrifying to me.
What puzzles me is the people who continue to breed when.......
Sorry.
I'm a strong supporter of birth control.
And I don't have to come home tonight. | |
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| People that don't have~nor EVER want kids..what do you think?
Posted: 8/26/2005 10:41:17 AM | Well I would be MORE inclined to ask the question, "How can people NOT resist the procreative urge when they have ZERO skills as a parent, ZERO desire to sacrifice as only parents are called to, and ZERO knowledge about what they're in for????"
I've seen the results of people who are unprepared for children, having them because they think it's what they're SUPPOSED to do!!!
Children are wonderful, but I would rather that more people took the time to actually THINK before having children and perhaps become better informed of the PRACTICAL aspect, not to mention deal with their OWN issues sufficiently so as NOT to visit them upon the next generation....
Procreation for it's own sake is NOT a good enough reason to go out and have kids...the world is having a difficult time as it is sustaining the current population...Dee | |
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| People that don't have~nor EVER want kids..what do you think?
Posted: 8/26/2005 10:52:36 AM | what is it with somepeople.
if you cant afford them if your not secure enough blah blah blah.
my mom was 19 my dad was 21.
sure it,s been a ****ed up life.
it,s been damn interesting. like indiana jones if he was high most of the time.
being 20 now. putting up with the crap I have I can honestly say this.
I turned out better than most people born into normal homes.
unlike many people.
I,m confident. cool. competent. I say something you better belive it,s getting done.
financially stable. independant. and happy with myself (now anyway)
I,m damn well looked after. and I did it myself.
have a child when you can feed it. life isnt supposed to follow some kind of plan.
a child is more than a drain on your bank. | |
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| People that don't have~nor EVER want kids..what do you think?
Posted: 8/26/2005 10:53:21 AM | Well you can take this as far as, how come some people only have 1 child, why not 2 or 3 or 4. As for us just being put on this earth for the sole purpose of breeding .........I think not.
Some people do other productive thing for the sake of humanity, other than breeding.
I agree the little rug rats are amazing, but not everyone choice, we are over populated enough.
As for not wanting kids, do I think they are selfish.............I say thank you for keeping the numbers down.
As for blood line, there is always adoption, its not always about blood.
My thoughts | |
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| People that don't have~nor EVER want kids..what do you think?
Posted: 8/26/2005 11:01:27 AM | It's like anything else,you hear people saying they will never marry,then a few years pass by
and all of a sudden they're planning a wedding!
Once a baby is born,and it's something you and your mate created,your views change right
quick!Nobody knows what they would do untill the situation is right in front of them!
when a woman gives birth,her perspective on life changes,seing that little fragile life you
and your mate created out of love puts a whole new twist on life!!!
Knight Rider! | |
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| People that don't have~nor EVER want kids..what do you think?
Posted: 8/26/2005 11:10:53 AM | Wonderful sentiments here...too bad it takes more than sentiment to raise a child!!!
Everyone is entitled to change their minds or not follow a plan, but let's be clear here, the juvenile system is NOT filling up with children and adolescents who come from a home where their arrival was planned and welcomed by two competent, stable people who were ready to raise a family....
As for you TM, congratulations! Trust me, you're most DEFINITELY in the minority!!!
How about people stop resolving their own issues by screwing up someone else's (their children's) lives?!?!?! There's a thought!!!
And sorry folks... this is what I've seen and dealt with on a daily basis in my work in the past, those kids all eventually grow up into adults committing crimes, dependant on anti-depressants to get through their day, or else having such wonderfully FUNCTIONAL relationships, as we have witnessed RIGHT HERE in some of these threads!!! And that's on the POSITIVE side...others just fall through the cracks instead...
Unfortunately, most children are conceived as a result of a moment of impulsiveness...Is that really the best way to start a life?!?!?
Dee | |
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| People that don't have~nor EVER want kids..what do you think?
Posted: 8/26/2005 11:26:35 AM | I agree with Dee.
And, people are entitled to their preferences. I have more respect for people that admit they don't want and can't handle something, than people that go jumping in with both feet and spend their lives going "boy did I screw up". | |
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| People that don't have~nor EVER want kids..what do you think?
Posted: 8/26/2005 11:31:31 AM | | I have nieces and nephews, and I like that, I take pictures of them and show them around, I do things with them on occasion, I'm kind of indirectly passing on my genes through them, etc. But I'm satisfied with that, with being Uncle Teddy rather than a father. I honestly don't want a more frequent or more intense involvement in parenthood than what I have now, I don't want the equivalent of having my nieces and nephews around all the time and having to take primary responsibility for them, and I'm not willing to make the commitment required and to deal with everything that fatherhood involves. | |
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| People that don't have~nor EVER want kids..what do you think?
Posted: 8/26/2005 11:32:45 AM | I don't believe that everyone should have children. There are those who would be great parents and those who are not great parents.
I've never thought it was selfish of anyone who chooses to not have children. And I don't believe they should be judged for their decision.
Not everyone melts at the sight of a child. It doesn't make them bad people.
Not everyone wants to get married, for whatever reasons.
Not everyone wants to work.
Not everyone wants to travel.
Not everyone wants an education, etc.
Not everyone wants or likes or wants to deal with the same things. Only with a child, you're responsible for it's life and raising. Not everyone is good with that.
Look how many children are suffering at the hands of careless parents. And a lot of these parents, I'm sure, had no clue how they'd feel about children until they had them.
when a woman gives birth,her perspective on life changes,seing that little fragile life you and your mate created out of love puts a whole new twist on life!!!
Knight Rider, I think the world of you, but I can't agree with this statement. If it were true there would be no abused children anywhere. If that were true a lot of people would have had a better childhood.
My mother wasn't sprinkled with 'mother dust'. There was no magic moment. My life as a child was a nightmare, and so were the lives of my brother and sister.
My mother should have raised scorpions.
This isn't something that happens 'sometimes'....the world is full of children who are neglected and abused because their parents are not good parents. Not everyone falls in love with their child and does the right thing.
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| People that don't have~nor EVER want kids..what do you think?
Posted: 8/26/2005 11:45:16 AM | Who wants to procreate until you're in your 60's or 70's, raise your poles? NO, our purpose on earth is not solely limited to procreation. I am proud and happy that I did not bring children into this world, I never wanted to have them and found out that I couldn't have them. I got news for Heaven, but my life is full, complete, and "heavenly".
There's a big difference of doing the act to bring them into this world, vs. bringing them into the world, giving a child the love, security, and care that they so need and want. I think the human race needs to focus on providing the quality of life vs. the quantity and I think that's what it has come down to. Its unfortunate to see children who don't have both parents in their lives; children who do not receive the health care; those that don't receive the basics for life; much less a loving home. Children don't ask to be born, yet people that call themselves "adults" bring them into the world with very little thought and raise them in a crappy environment, I'd like to beat their butts around the block a few times. At times, I think there's "no bad children, just bad parents". I'm not saying this about all parents just the rotten ones. | |
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| People that don't have~nor EVER want kids..what do you think?
Posted: 8/26/2005 11:46:19 AM | @ Dee:
You, as many have done, have made some very valid points. You have made me open my eyes a little wider. When I do not understand something..i like to look into it, in order to have a better comprehension of the subject at hand.
I am by no means judging anyone...so if any of yous feel that I am doing so..plzzz don't. I totally respect your decision. It all stems on how one is raised, i suppose, as i am catholic...it is what i have been taught...therefore, i am what some would call "ignorant" to the facts. This is why i started this thread. I want other's veiws. Thanks for your input!! | |
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| People that don't have~nor EVER want kids..what do you think?
Posted: 8/26/2005 11:49:47 AM | it doesnt matter what kind of family someone was born into. they can turn out poorly. even if a couple is seemingly happy and married and the kid was planned.
dad likes to drink and beat the wife and kids. mabey touches daddy,s little girl at night.
mabey daddys a police officer. or a lawyer in the sub urbs.
mommy likes to whore around town and makes no secret about it. mommy,s a high school teacher married to a rich banker. with 3 kids.
I figure parenting doesnt play as big a role in how someone turns out as people think.
after watching american beauty I realized one thing.
no matter the facade people try and present to the world.
LIFE HAPPENS | |
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| People that don't have~nor EVER want kids..what do you think?
Posted: 8/26/2005 11:56:21 AM | 1. Even though I have children, I certainly do not think that is the only reason I am alive.
2. Selfish? What is selfish about not wanting children, if anything it is selfish to want them or rather shows a lot of self love.
3. Everyone does not not to have children to keep the world going, if anything there are too many of us here now.
4. Carry on my blood-line? What am I a poodle?
5. Yes I have children, but honestly none were planned. I really could not imagine getting pregnant on purpose. I love them dearly, but to get pregnant on purpose just seems like a very odd thing to do.
I really wish someone would explain to me why they want children. Some going to great lengths to make it happnen, sometimes spending huge sums of money. I really don't understand it at all. | |
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| People that don't have~nor EVER want kids..what do you think?
Posted: 8/26/2005 11:58:23 AM | @ TM
I have seen some real "bad asses" (for lack of a better word) that came from a good (whatever that definition may be) home...as well as very prominant members of society that were raised in severly disfunctional homes (Oprah would be a prime example). | |
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| People that don't have~nor EVER want kids..what do you think?
Posted: 8/26/2005 12:00:14 PM | Some are meant to continue the human race and others were designed to be snuffed out only after they provide their services to the breeders ...... plain and simple. Just think of it like that. Kinda like the unichs that were castrated to serve the rest of society, none of their descendants are here, only just ghost memories, same goes for young dead soldiers whose names are scribled on stone walls. It's the luck of the draw in some cases and destiny in others.
Is the thought of someone which could have existed important? How about your own existance? Who or what cause could you be important to? Would the world be any different if the 1/2 sterile mate of a couple changed their mind and procreated with a breeder? How about the wars; 100,000,000's of human wasted resulting from that? What would the world be like now if they had procreated?
Maybe society should evolve into a "Logan's Run" (movie of the 70's) were humans are more like salmon breeders never to know their children only to have the government raise them.
Anyway it is my nature to throw out thought provoking views like this. I hope know one gets offended. I would respect anyones choice because it is their own life descision not their parents. Be happy for yourself and that you survived being aborted and do something for the world while you are here. | |
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| People that don't have~nor EVER want kids..what do you think?
Posted: 8/26/2005 12:02:41 PM | I figure it,s people natural instinct to rebel.
you come from drugs violence general debauchery and vice. you,ll enjoy it. mabey even revel in it. sooner or later you,ll get sick of it. (hopefully)
you come from a nice home with a picket fence and no swearing allowed. your going to want to go wild. mabey not for long but some people never get over it.
I geuss people want to live differently from how they first came to be | |
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| People that don't have~nor EVER want kids..what do you think?
Posted: 8/26/2005 12:03:38 PM | | Well,,im one of those people who doesnt have kids and at this age,,,,,i dont think i want any. Im going to be 40 in Nov., and while im still pretty much pysically fit and would probably make a pretty fun mom,,,,im thinking i dont really want to be say 46 with a 3 yr. old. Does that make me a bad person? Wow i sure hope not! As selfish as it may sound and it very well may be,,,,i totally enjoy my independence and freedom to come and go as i please. Ive been alone for so long and only had to take care of me, that its really what i am used to. Dont get me wrong tho--i loveeeee kids and when im around them i have as much fun as they do!! Just never met 'Mr. Right' (yet) so now time has caught up with me. IF, and thats a big IF,,,,i do meet someone who is THEE one,,,100% for sure,,,and he wants at least 1 child with me,,,,then id have to really seriously think about that. | |
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