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 stoneside

Joined: 9/3/2004
Msg: 1
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Posted: 10/8/2005 1:58:52 PM
I can understand not having a bunch of threads about the same thing. The forum's would be about nothing except "cumming" and "3some's" . I do have a suggestion though. Why keep the old threads about a topic. People that are on the site right now are getting their threads deleted while thread's and posts made by people that have not been on the site for months are left. I want to know about the people I'm chatting with. The people I might want to chat with. The people that might be interesting to me. Maybe a thread should be deleted after say 3 months so that it can be re-started by people that are still on the site. I found one thread today where the first 3 pages didn't have one active member. What do you think?
 xander

Joined: 7/17/2005
Msg: 2
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Posted: 10/8/2005 3:57:40 PM
Don't discount someone's wisdom just because they're no longer around.

The thing with redundant threads isn't so much that there are _any_ existing threads, but that there would be *recent* existing threads. I think most mods use a rule of thumb of 'recent' being contributed to within the last month.
 trappedonbayst

Joined: 1/3/2005
Msg: 3
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Posted: 10/8/2005 11:09:04 PM
Agreed, that is pretty much the same criteria I use when I do a search.
 Ticketoride

Joined: 6/3/2004
Msg: 4
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Posted: 10/9/2005 3:47:45 AM
The Third defintion might shine some light on your Question why they are being kept.
One of the features of this Site is to provide a historical perspective on trends and opinions. One can check back into the past and compare these Threads with current ones.

That however does not mean we want tons of redundunt Threads.
We want to minimize these if at all possible.

Although it does not answer your Question in full, a lot of it also deals with the Evolution of this Site, the Manner in which the older Threads are archived, and the Policy Changes that came into effect at various Times throughout that changed the tack of the Forums. There is still a lot of work to do, to index, categorize and organize. Its a Mountain of work, but will be done at some point sooner or later.

* Forum noun, (pl. "fora" or "forums") 3. An online discussion group. Online services and bulletin board services (BBS's) provide a variety of forums, in which participants with common interests can exchange open messages. Reading a forum's archives can be a good way to obtain a basic knowledge about a topic, and it also provides a historical perspective on trends and opinions.
 somewherre

Joined: 9/14/2005
Msg: 5
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Posted: 10/9/2005 4:26:20 AM

* Forum noun, (pl. "fora" or "forums") 3. An online discussion group. Online services and bulletin board services (BBS's) provide a variety of forums, in which participants with common interests can exchange open messages. Reading a forum's archives can be a good way to obtain a basic knowledge about a topic, and it also provides a historical perspective on trends and opinions.


Ok, here's my niggly little issue with deleting redundant threads...as stated in your definition above, forum's are an online discussion group. Sure, some people go to the forums for knowledge, but there's also the ones that want to talk with people - to discuss - and I'm sure that's the majority. And that's hard to do when the topic that interests you enough to pipe in on is already many pages long and any posting you would do would simply be a 'me too!' post. It's much easier to jump in and join in when someone else has opened a similar topic and there's room for you to get your say in. Most people want to be heard (or seen, in this case) and with the long-ish older threads, it's probably not gonna happen.

Everyone loves the forums. Look at how many people are here just for that reason! But it's hard to be a part of them sometimes when threads are getting deleted and people are being told to go do a search instead. If I want to learn something, I'll just go to google or the library. I'm here because I want to talk to people, even if it's something that's been talked about before. Really, if someone is sick of a topic, then all they need to do is ignore it. Goodness knows there's plenty of choices if they don't like that one.

Anyhow, just my $.02
 Ticketoride

Joined: 6/3/2004
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Posted: 10/9/2005 5:18:50 AM
Ok, here's my niggly little issue with deleting redundant threads...as stated in your definition above, forum's are an online discussion group. Sure, some people go to the forums for knowledge, but there's also the ones that want to talk with people - to discuss - and I'm sure that's the majority. And that's hard to do when the topic that interests you enough to pipe in on is already many pages long and any posting you would do would simply be a 'me too!' post. It's much easier to jump in and join in when someone else has opened a similar topic and there's room for you to get your say in. Most people want to be heard (or seen, in this case) and with the long-ish older threads, it's probably not gonna happen.

I hear what you are saying. You do have a point. Despite the fact that we kill redundunt Threads mercilessly, we do not manage to kill enough of them, but still have way too many on our hands. Add to the Fact that numerous same-topic threads are created 20 times by newbies every week, you might get an inkling we have to draw the Line someplace.

There is no reason to not find old Threads, add your comments, bring it back, next thing you know 5 pages are added to it the same day. After page 1 or 2, it doesn't really matter anyways.
Its happened often enough in the past, some Thread got dug up a couple of dozen times over the last 18 months. In fact, I rarely start new threads, because its way too easy to find an existing one and re-work it back up.

But it's hard to be a part of them sometimes when threads are getting deleted and people are being told to go do a search instead.

Thats why we stay on their cases 24/7 to search for existing Threads on the same Topic, so we won't have that many redundunt deletions. Mind you, Thread Redunduncy is only 1 Reason for their deletions, and I doubt they make up for more than 20% of the total. There are yet many other reasons why they get toasted.

* Thread was Moved
* Redundunt Thread
* Not a Valid Topic
* Chat Thread
* Troll Thread/Offensive Topic Matter
* Spam Thread
* Billboard Thread
* Libel/Slander Thread
* User Name Thread Header
* Polarized Thread
* Excessive Sequential Replies/Post-Whoring
* Illegal/Unlawful Thread
* Copyright/Intellectual Property Infringment Thread
* Non-English Language Thread
* Improper Thread Format
(Illegal UBB/HTML Code, CAPS, etc.)

* Thread Topic Hijacked
* Turned into Chat Thread
* Turned into Troll Thread
* Turned into Flame War
 stoneside

Joined: 9/3/2004
Msg: 7
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Posted: 10/14/2005 1:59:07 PM
Ummmmmm. Thanks for the answer to my question. In my case I use the forums to show what type of opinion I have on topic's and to see what the ladies opinion's are. I know this may shock many but, have no idea how women think and can use all the help I can get
 Ticketoride

Joined: 6/3/2004
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Posted: 10/15/2005 7:01:13 AM
^^^ There you go ...
 mardioluv4u

Joined: 9/20/2005
Msg: 9
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Posted: 10/16/2005 4:30:15 AM
Hey

Can someone please delete that thread in the Sports thread area where there is no visible title you know? It has my username there but thats it. I posted it but it never showed up.
So i did another that was exactly the same called ""shoeless" Joe Jackson and the Chicago White Sox"
 bigboldgrl

Joined: 10/5/2005
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Posted: 2/21/2006 2:28:11 PM
After reading the for and against keeping old threads ... I say turf the old ones . Everytime a new person starts a new thread , older members insult them with " use the search ' ,, " this has been done " . I can see that it makes newer people afraid to jump in . Then when an older member does start a new thread its ok for the clique to let it slide . Keep things fresh and friendly .
Just my 2 cents .
 brawnydog

Joined: 8/17/2005
Msg: 11
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Posted: 2/21/2006 2:35:42 PM

older members insult them with " use the search ' ,, " this has been done " .


So do the younger members that get sick of BBW threads. (and such)
Search keeps 3 of the same topic off the front page.

BTW.....anyone know if size matters?
 _Enigma_

Joined: 2/26/2005
Msg: 12
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Posted: 2/21/2006 2:37:54 PM
So is doing a thread search so difficult?? Informing a person to do one is not an insult that i can see!
 bigboldgrl

Joined: 10/5/2005
Msg: 13
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Posted: 2/21/2006 2:41:45 PM
Doing a thread search isnt difficult , I just did one to find this . I should have known that being friendly just isn't possible . Iv'e never started a new thread because of responses like those . People are such haters on here .
 _Enigma_

Joined: 2/26/2005
Msg: 14
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Posted: 2/21/2006 2:44:33 PM
We thought we were helping, gosh remind me brawny to never help this one again cause im just insulting and a hater.
 trappedonbayst

Joined: 1/3/2005
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Posted: 2/21/2006 4:31:38 PM
After reading the for and against keeping old threads ... I say turf the old ones . Everytime a new person starts a new thread , older members insult them with " use the search ' ,, " this has been done " . I can see that it makes newer people afraid to jump in


hence the request to try a thread search first. If you cant find one and start a fresh topic, then there should be no reason that anyone would have to say "do a search". If you find one, like you did, then just join in and voice you opinion on the subject.

Additionally, there should never be a reason to delete an older thread where a lot of people have contributed as it speaks to the preservation of opinions, or the changing opinions over time.

Then when an older member does start a new thread its ok for the clique to let it slide


they don't get a chance to say anything as we'll either likely nuke it or close it with the suggestion of trying a thread search.


Now for the benefit of the people who are going to read this and who don't know how to do a thread search:

How To Search

1) The search function is located on the main Forum List Page, or any of the sub-forum pages, in the top right corner and looks like this:



2) Preferably, in the empty box, enter one key search word that would most likely appear in the thread subject line.
3) Select "Thread Title" or "Newest Thread" in the drop down box beside it.
4) Click on "Search".


Please note that the key word you enter will be searched on exactly, mis-spellings won't be found. If you enter a partial word like "repl", the search will return any threads that have the word "reply" or "replies" or variations that have a word that contains "repl", in it.


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 mystlw

Joined: 9/19/2005
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Posted: 2/22/2006 2:28:49 AM

Additionally, there should never be a reason to delete an older thread where a lot of people have contributed as it speaks to the preservation of opinions, or the changing opinions over time.


I was thinking about this while reading that POF has begun advertising. Wouldn't advertising bring a flood of new members, which would make those older 40-page threads even more cumbersome? Why not a compromise wherein a new thread can be started when the older ones reach a certain size?
 Ticketoride

Joined: 6/3/2004
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Posted: 2/22/2006 2:58:51 AM
Why not a compromise wherein a new thread can be started when the older ones reach a certain size?

100 pages I close them off and make a new one generally, but that doesn't hold true for all threads throughout the forums.
 jefcoat

Joined: 8/12/2004
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Posted: 2/5/2007 10:45:03 PM
I noticed today that a thread was deleted because it was old and had been revived. If this is happening why even bother to search for a topic? Why not have the administration go and delete all the old threads and start new. If it is an archive issue then can people stop requesting people do searches after all when I find a topic that interests me and i post or revive a thread it gets deleted because it was revived.

The thread may have been invalid when created, and slipped into the archives, "list threads" pop up from the past in the Art/Music forum all the time, deleted on sight.

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Can you please clarify this to me.

FAQ - Redundant Threads - Why not get rid of old ones?

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