| Real punk revived??
Posted: 10/10/2005 6:10:51 PM | | My former coworker I debated and talked about The so called new punk sound. He told me punk was pretty much an era way way back when rebellion and such sorts were part of going against society, and the punk movement was in full swing along with Ramones and all them. I can honestly agree punk was soley that one era in time and can never be revived with these "punk" bands now. That punk is dead and can only be imitated. True? | |
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| Real punk revived??
Posted: 10/10/2005 6:42:42 PM | | the biggest reason of rebellion for the original punk music was the rebellion against the long, self-indulgent progressive music of the era and the soft disco sounds...Why should you need a phd in music to make music? they found the progressive sound boring and wanted to get back to the original intention of music...basic rock and roll that could be danced to. As far as the new punk sound, it is an industry created machine marketed to a specific demographic of listeners...a far cry from the original punk music that stood for something by itself. Punk then just tried to give music some revamped life after the scene was wallowing in progressive music and disco.....just my two cents here....Cheers! | |
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| Real punk revived??
Posted: 10/10/2005 6:45:14 PM | FALSE!!!!!
Very FALSE
As long as there are youth, AND electric instruments, there will be a form of PUNK.
The original Rock and roll was punk-ish. so as an Idea it will always exist.
Now times are certainly different than they were when the sex pistols and the Ramones were kicking it out. But the ENERGY is still the same. The Hardcore stuff of the 80's was WAYYY different than the fore fathers but still every bit as intense.
no need to get into a gob spitting contest over the issue.
Naturally, it has been embraced by some corporate folks who know how to make a buck off of it, but if you want real punk, go to a PARTY where a local band of 19 year olds are playing, in any Metro in America. | |
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Posted: 10/10/2005 6:58:59 PM | | I think the idea of this topic was the stuff that the corporate folks have touched....but you are right, you can go to any bar/party anywhere where there is a live band and there is energy-- but the overproduced sound of todays stuff is hard to compare to 70's punk or 80's hardcore. Somewhere over time the transition between underground and mainstream have crossed...To quote the Barenaked Ladies..."It's All Been Done".... Cheers! | |
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| Real punk revived??
Posted: 10/10/2005 9:23:54 PM | While were on the topic of punk, id just liek to say one thing.
I find that, though is not the majority, quite a good portion of teens and young adults are into punk music or the punk scene. Quite a large number of my friends are into it too (not my taste exactly, but i dont hate it). When i asked them why they like the music, and the punk scene, they all replied with virtually the same answer. it was always "Becuase its rebellious, and i dont care what people think of me, because i want to be different from the mainstreme" or something along those lines (i know not ALL punk fans are like this, but most of them are).
This got me to thinking, if they are all about being different, and not careing what people think of them, then why are they dressing like everyone else in this group, and thinking like everyone else in this group, so on and such forth. IF they really though that, then shouldn't they do something like start dressing like a circus preformer, or dressing up in short pants up to there arm pits with rainbow suspenders. IF they truley want to be different, and truly dont care what people think of them, then dressing like that would truly show that to the world. Because its not really being different, if everyone you know is doing the exact same thing isnt it? | |
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Posted: 10/10/2005 9:33:08 PM | | Real punk hasnt been around since the 70's and 80's, bands like the Ramones and the Sex Pistols were good punk bands. People these days who call themselves are so far from punk they arents even in the same freaking universe. How is whining about girls or skaterboys being punk??? Someone please tell me that I am just being obscene even though I know im right. And since when was skateboarding part of the mainstream, those who used to skateboard back in the 80's were real people who were rebellious, non mainstream and non conforming folks. | |
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Posted: 10/10/2005 10:21:02 PM | Yeah, punk is dead. It flatlined years ago when Mr. Pop Queen got together with Miss Pop Tart. They hit poor Mr. punk with a bat and that was that. Mr. Mainstream Rapper sold them a nice sports car. They drove into the sunset. The end.
Is there a rolling-the-eyes emoticon?!?
Anyway...
Punk is a frame of mind. It's an attitude. It's an ethic. It's about being true to yourself and being passionate about your art which happens to be music. You know, that kind of corny sh**. It can't be defined or categorized or put into a nice neat compartment. It isn't the most technical music in the world as a lot of guitarists with tons of experience like to bash it, but the musicians with punk ethics are usually not very commercial and are dedicated. They are passionate musicians.
I like to educate the masses even if it doesn't help them.
I am your only hope. | |
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| Real punk revived??
Posted: 10/10/2005 10:22:34 PM | | Oops, I meant Pop Prince. Oh well, same sh**. | |
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| Real punk revived??
Posted: 10/10/2005 10:31:25 PM | You guys are forgetting Iggy Pop, Richard Hell & The Voidoids, Dead Boys, MC5, New York Dolls, Velvet Underground what about all these bands that had huge influences on the Ramones and the Pistols. without these bands, punk may have never come into existence in the first place. Punk wasn't just the Pistols and the Ramones.
'Nuff said. | |
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Posted: 10/11/2005 5:31:30 AM | | Thank you Darkangel812 - the MC5 were ahead of everything, wether they realized it or not. Best rock n roll band of all time ever. period....just my opinion...Cheers! | |
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Posted: 10/11/2005 5:43:27 AM | couldnt agree more, and was actually going to mention that in my first post. Some of my favorite bands there | |
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Posted: 10/11/2005 6:05:57 AM | Punk isn't dead...
quit listening to mainstream blink182, and try some INDY, INDY is what punk is all about. | |
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| Real punk revived??
Posted: 10/11/2005 9:27:41 PM | | all these mainstream boy bands are about as close to being punk as Christina Agulara is to being a virgin. | |
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| Real punk revived??
Posted: 10/12/2005 1:22:51 AM | ...who really cares? If it sounds good to you, then it's good. That is the bottom line.
I know the history of alot of groups...but it doesn't mean anything if I don't like their music. Music should be a personal opinion of what they like. Music should truly "move" them in some way to be good.
I almost rate a great music experience higher then a sexual one. If you don't, you are really not a music fan, or you never found the right music. I truly believe this. | |
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Posted: 10/12/2005 2:41:48 AM | Punk is dorment, it's not gonna realy pop back up for at least another five years, and as long as Rap is smothering the billboards I'm afraid nothing tasteful will pop up anytime soon. | |
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| Real punk revived??
Posted: 10/12/2005 5:09:24 AM | -10 points from humanities IQ as a whole.
wtg ven! | |
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| Real punk revived??
Posted: 10/13/2005 7:56:08 PM | Punk is not a genre. It can't be categorised. The music industry is trying to define punk and it can't be done. Punk is all about attitude.
Somebody told me Good Charlotte is a punk band. ???. You can't pretend to be punk. | |
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Posted: 10/13/2005 11:35:12 PM | | While I agree that Punk was a rebellion against Progressive Rock and Disco, it was actually just a revival of the garage bands of the 60s. If you want to hear a true punk album from the 60s, check out "Black Monk Time" by the Monks. Very influential and only released in the USA in the 90s. | |
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Posted: 10/14/2005 7:11:49 AM | | Good Charoltte sucks! they're nowhere near real punk. What ever happened to The Misfits, The Circlejerks and the Pi$$offs?! Today all I see when I walk around town is a bunch of eight year olds sporting a mohawk and wearing Good Charlotte and Blink182 shirts. I bet none of those kids even know what a moshpit is. | |
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| Real punk revived??
Posted: 10/14/2005 9:16:47 AM | | Well said, Venomous. I gotta say, though, I'm a big Rancid fan. | |
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Posted: 10/14/2005 2:31:35 PM | | Real punk did kind of die off after refused. I always liked the offspring and crowned king shows promise for muchmusic/mtv, bleed the dream is more alternative but have a distinct punk sound and are very good although their cd wasn't great(they have a few older songs that are excellent). There's a lot of punk bands that no one has heard of but they are really good. | |
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Posted: 10/14/2005 5:32:57 PM | Punk is not dead, it has evolved as will anything......
Although it has changed from when I was listening to Black Flag, DK, Exploited, Seven Seconds etc, with rebellious youth expressing themselves through music PUNK WILL NEVER DIE!!!! | |
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Posted: 10/14/2005 6:13:58 PM | | Rdtoo- havent heard the 60's Monks before but heard of them... are they that good? Another great 60's punk band are the Sonics and also, The Seeds !!! Cheers! | |
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Posted: 10/15/2005 12:16:45 AM | | Smubbs, I think you would enjoy the Monks. Really bizarre lyrics. They sound like a cross between a late 70s punk band and the Dave Clark Five. Seriously. Very listenable stuff. They were a group of US servicemen stationed in Germany who formed a band to play at the clubs and actually got airplay in Germany. They were at least 15 years ahead of their time. | |
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| Real punk revived??
Posted: 10/15/2005 10:07:43 AM | | cool....I will look for them....thanks RDtoo!....Cheers! | |
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