| | Stop being a NICE guyPage 1 of 23 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23) | I know i might get flames for saying this but....nice guys will always finish last in the dating game.
I used to be a nice guy in my younger days. but after getting some practice with women Ive learned what they want....... Don't ever listen to what they say they want(in fact dont listen to anything a woman says), they only think they want this or that. I know some of you would rather not hear this but it will work with every girl..... Act**** but not overly arrogant...Tease women but watch the way your voice tone is, just do it jokingly and they will laugh. They think it's funny and it shows her that you are not worried about what she thinks. You are the man, do what makes YOU happy. If you want to take a girl out YOU decide where to go don't EVER allow her tell you where she wants to go. After all, YOU are the man, you are the king and don't ever let anyone tell you that you are not. Don't ever ever ever let anyone dictate/and effect your self esteem...
Women do NOT want "nice guys",this is a fact... and what I mean by nice guys are the guys who are overly sensitive,guys who listen to slow sad music. the guys who let the girl make the decisions/ and wear tha pants, the guy who tells her he loves her after hardly knowing her, the guy who gives her compliments and so forth. Whatever you do don't ever act like you really like her, NEVER ever tell her how you feel about her and NEVER tell her she is beautiful.(NEVER) She will take advantage of your niceness as a form of "weakness" to her because she knows inside that she can now control you..... She knows she has a grip on you since you like her so much and you will be puddy in a womens hands if you are like this. Make sure you don't go out and spend $200 on a date and don't go out buying her a ton of presents either....
I know deep inside you just want to treat her like a princess and be "nice" to her but it will never work my friend. I'm not trying to say be a jerk to women but just be yourself and be confident. When I say be yourself that does not mean let your emotions flood out to her either. If you want to go hang out with your male friends, DO IT! You don't need her approval for anything......shoot.
The key is to be confident my brotha and this applies to all the men out here. I know that this may not sound good or philosophic to you at first but I know you all are having some trouble with women so I just want to give some advice to my fellows on what women REALLY want in a man. Look back at our great ancestors and you will see they were no sissy boys, they took control of everything!!!! They were kings!!
Another thing is it's not a good sign if women are saying how nice you are, I'd rather have women jumping all over me and telling me how hot I am than being called "nice" and letting the other guys get the women.
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| Stop being a NICE guy
Posted: 10/15/2005 8:26:24 AM |
I know i might get flames for saying this
ya think....?! | |
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HB2
| | Joined: 5/11/2005
Msg: 3 | |
| Stop being a NICE guy
Posted: 10/15/2005 8:26:35 AM | Well, guess what?!
I'm not going to flame you.
I'm going to agree with you.
Stop pretending to be nice.
I'm going to make an effort in that direction myself.
Nice has never worked for me yet so I'm going to concentrate on becoming a total ****. | |
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LL3
| | Joined: 9/10/2005
Msg: 4 | |
| Stop being a NICE guy
Posted: 10/15/2005 8:34:42 AM | WOW! I'm a guy and I'm offended...you can still be nice and get things done properly....Tell ya what..if she's that kind of girl...she's not worth being with....Man...remember...this is POF or in real life even.....if she isn't it, move on...
So tired of the sob stories and the way on how to beat the "system"...Guess what? Be yourself and you'll get a lot further ahead....TRUST ME! | |
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Posted: 10/15/2005 8:36:47 AM | I gotta say that I agree with almost everything you said. I think it comes down to confidence. Eventually, once you're involved in a serious committed relationship, it's okay to show a very small amount of sensitivity, but generally speaking, a woman is looking for a man with confidence.
You can be gentle and kind without catering to her though. | |
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Posted: 10/15/2005 8:37:08 AM | @OP
Somebody has been taking to heart David DeAngelo's internet newsletters | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy
Posted: 10/15/2005 8:37:14 AM | | Knowing that I will get flamed as well, I have to agree 100%. In fact, a few woman admited the same to me. From my experience, there`s no way I`ll ever have a lasting relationship by being Mr. nice guy. Many told me; No woman want to feel smothered by all your nice moves and comments. They were unanymous by saying, we do want a man! What does a man mean? I don`t know, but I know it`s not Mr. Nice. Many told me; you`re so good to me, you`re ect .... But I`m sorry this isn`t for me. No, I didn`t meet as whole bunch of losers but very intelligent and educated woman. All this to say, that the nice guy in me id dead and gone. It seems like woman like to work hard to get to us. I think it`s crazy because I personnaly make 0 effort and I don`t chase. It works well however. They always come back if interested. It`s sad. I trully hate what I became. But I had to since I do not intent to be alone forever. | |
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Posted: 10/15/2005 8:39:36 AM | | I think our OP friend is just feeling a little sorry for himself. That's understandable. | |
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Posted: 10/15/2005 9:07:45 AM | JayJay, I'm not going to flame you. I can tell you are speaking from hurt. It's ok man, we all go through rejection, but how we deal with that rejection is the truest measure of who we are. I know that deep down inside there's a really great guy that just want's his affection returned, am I right?
Don't ever listen to what they say they want(in fact dont listen to anything a woman says), they only think they want this or that.
It's a fact that most PEOPLE, not just women, don't know what they want. Understanding this takes a lot of self reflection and I think that quite frankly, most are afraid of what they may find when they take a hard look at themselves.
Tease women but watch the way your voice tone is, just do it jokingly and they will laugh. They think it's funny and it shows her that you are not worried about what she thinks. You are the man, do what makes YOU happy. If you want to take a girl out YOU decide where to go don't EVER allow her tell you where she wants to go. After all, YOU are the man, you are the king and don't ever let anyone tell you that you are not. Don't ever ever ever let anyone dictate/and effect your self esteem...
What you are aiming at here is self confidence, but you are going about it the wrong way. It shouldn't have to be an act my friend. You have to love the man you are. Once you do that, women will notice it in the way you talk and walk, trust me.
Women do NOT want "nice guys",this is a fact... and what I mean by nice guys are the guys who are overly sensitive,guys who listen to slow sad music. the guys who let the girl make the decisions/ and wear tha pants, the guy who tells her he loves her after hardly knowing her, the guy who gives her compliments and so forth.
Sounds to me as if you are describing a jellyfish (no backbone), not a 'nice' guy. I actually agree with you here for the most part, women don't want an overly sensitive man. Remember that scene in Bedeviled with Brandon Fraiser when he is crying at the sunset and the girl ends up leaving with the jocks? 
Whatever you do don't ever act like you really like her, NEVER ever tell her how you feel about her and NEVER tell her she is beautiful.(NEVER) She will take advantage of your niceness as a form of "weakness" to her because she knows inside that she can now control you..... She knows she has a grip on you since you like her so much and you will be puddy in a womens hands if you are like this. Make sure you don't go out and spend $200 on a date and don't go out buying her a ton of presents either....
Maybe you are just dating the wrong kind of woman?
Perhaps your compliments aren't sincere and they can tell?
I dunno. Of course some people are always going to take advantage of good people, this shouldn't come as a shock to you. If you are looking for something deep and meaningful you will have to be more selective about who you date. 99.9999% of the general population is not going to work for you, just accept it. This doesn't make women evil. And don't EVER spend $200 on a first date! What's the point? Most women are going to think you are trying to buy them and be cautious of your true intentions. Too many men tend to think that spending a lot of money on a woman should assure them sex. This is not only ugly, but very shallow as well.
I'm not trying to say be a jerk to women but just be yourself and be confident. When I say be yourself that does not mean let your emotions flood out to her either. If you want to go hang out with your male friends, DO IT! You don't need her approval for anything......shoot.
Exactly 
See, I knew before I even read this that there was a decent guy screaming to get out. It's easy to blame women when we get rejected, but it takes true courage to pick yourself back up and continue striving to be a great man.
Look back at our great ancestors and you will see they were no sissy boys, they took control of everything!!!! They were kings!!
Doh! You were doing so good...
This statement says to me that you see control and confidence as one and the same. They aren't my friend. True confidence is when we can still be comfortable even when we are out of control.
I'd rather have women jumping all over me and telling me how hot I am than being called "nice" and letting the other guys get the women.
Then perhaps what you really want right now is sex, not a relationship, and that's ok.
Where I think you are getting frustrated is when you date women that are looking for a serious relationship. They aren't looking for sex mate, at least not right off the bat. Seek women that only want a friendship with a physical aspect and you will be much happier I think. Good luck  | |
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Posted: 10/15/2005 9:14:27 AM | I'm offering a workshop on how to become an authentic human being. Nice guys get a discount. Watch for the book coming to a shelf near you soon! LOL!
Just say what you actually ARE thinking instead of what you think they want to hear and you will no longer be a nice guy.
And hey< i'm damn good at not being nice.
""wink"" | |
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Posted: 10/15/2005 9:35:16 AM | being that i am female, i should be offended for what this guys says but i am not. Quiet simply, it's the truth. It's not because we were raised to want the " stereotypical " guy- macho, assertive, powerful, it's because that is how the majority of men act. When we get one who is not like the rest, it's just......different. It takes a little getting use to and by the time you are willing, they think you are a stuck up B***h and get all hateful about it.
Be youself and someone will want you for the person you are, not the person you pretend to be! | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy
Posted: 10/15/2005 10:30:17 AM | When men say, "women don't know what they want", isn't it an easy way to deal with rejection?
Don't they really mean, she does not want me, therefore, she does not know what she wants. | |
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Posted: 10/15/2005 10:55:56 AM | Don't listen to anything a woman says eh?
Does that go for when you're trying to have sex with them and they keep saying no as well? | |
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Posted: 10/15/2005 10:56:42 AM |
I know deep inside you just want to treat her like a princess and be "nice" to her but it will never work my friend.
And all this time I thought girls wanted to be treated like a princess, ever since they dreamed about a man riding up to take her into his arms and take her away to his castle. Good job | |
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Posted: 10/15/2005 10:57:08 AM | I am not a nice guy - I have never been a nice guy. Yet, no shortage of women. Women say they want "honesty, trustworthy, sensitive, blah blah" and it is total horsesh1t. I message girls all the time that say 'no' to guys like me, and 2 hours later we are meeting at Starbucks for our first date.
Girls, for the most part, want attention. Bad boys give the attention in a more aggressive and clear manner than good guys who try to be romantic. Bad guys says "you are hot - great tits - I can't wait to fuk you" and girls are flattered - wether they take up the offer or not.
Nice Guys Finish Last! | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy
Posted: 10/15/2005 10:57:22 AM |
First Date10:00 i meet you at a club
11:00 im dancin with you
12:00 im gettin drunk with you
01:00 on our way to my place
02:00 im sleeping with you
buahahahahahahahah hahahahhahahah hahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy
Posted: 10/15/2005 11:02:01 AM | | Wow only four hours. First off you are both strangers, never met before. I find that hard to fathom unless your dates have no morals, which seems to be the case with the getting drunk part. No self control plus a stranger = AIDS. | |
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HB2
| | Joined: 5/11/2005
Msg: 19 | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy
Posted: 10/15/2005 11:07:15 AM | 10:00 take ur own ass to the club - aint pickin ya up
11:00 ya like that?
12:00 I'm pissed - urrrrrrrpp!!  let's blow this popstand
01:00 driver!, If I wanted the scenic route I'd have asked for it - got things/someone to do!
02:00 now that's what I'm talkin' about! | |
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HB2
| | Joined: 5/11/2005
Msg: 21 | |
| Stop being a NICE guy
Posted: 10/15/2005 11:08:13 AM | | Yet if a woman had posted those things she's a slut eh? | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy
Posted: 10/15/2005 11:11:57 AM | Hate to say it, but there is some truth in it.
I get better results from being distant on a date than I do if I am atentive. | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy
Posted: 10/15/2005 11:13:46 AM | I did HB,... you be too sweet to be a biotch :)
Oh and I think he's a slut, a delusional slut but a slut nonetheless! lol | |
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Posted: 10/15/2005 11:14:47 AM | The word nice is a little outdated to begin with, hardly anyone uses the word gay to describe someone being happy. Anyways I looked up the adjective definition and got this:
pleasant or pleasing or agreeable in nature or appearance; "what a nice fellow you are and we all thought you so nasty"- George Meredith; "nice manners"; "a nice dress"; "a nice face"; "a nice day"; "had a nice time at the party"; "the corn and tomatoes are nice today" [ant: nasty] 2: socially or conventionally correct; refined or virtuous; "from a decent family"; "a nice girl"
I would rather have nice manners instead of no manners at all. Nasty might be the cool thing to do but only for people who want those sexual urges taken care of. | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy
Posted: 10/15/2005 11:16:17 AM | | poorgie you're beginning to make more and more sense with every post I follow you to lol | |
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