| SUV drivers & dating
Posted: 10/28/2005 12:50:19 AM | We have a lot of SUV drivers here in washington, there is no question of that. And I think most of us have at least some opinion of them. I know I certainly have one but I won't be *cough*self-absorbed*cough* talking about *cough*inconsiderate and thoughtless*cough* discussing that *cough*wastefull and ignorant*cough* in this thread.
So here is my question. Would you ever just flat out refuse someone because they drive an SUV? Or for that matter, any other car type (I don't mean a beaten up old barely working bucket of bolts, I am saying a specific type of car only)?
I would say a definite no. There is absolutely no reason for 99.95% of SUV owners to have that particular car. Need to haul a bunch of stuff, buy a small truck. Need to carry 10,000 kids? Get a minivan. Live in the absolute middle of the arctic tundra, have a family of 50, and the absolute only way you are getting out of your ice and sleet covered boulder and pot hole filled driveway is with 4 wheel drive... then you can get an SUV.
I guess if I was just head over heels crazy for you... I would make an exception, but I would bother you about your car every single time we are together  | |
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| SUV drivers & dating
Posted: 1/17/2009 7:20:54 PM | | Is the reason people drive SUV vehicles to make up for shortcomings elsewhere?? | |
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Posted: 1/18/2009 12:11:22 PM | | I think the OP needs to define his demons a little better, before he gets all huffy. My rig, a Mitsubishi Montero, will not only haul the camper, and my kids, and the groceries, and get through the snow and ice, it will also do that while getting better mileage than most minivans. So neener neener. | |
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| SUV drivers & dating
Posted: 1/18/2009 12:25:55 PM | | Pick your battles, Dude. As long as You aren't paying for the gas or maintenance, why should You care? | |
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| SUV drivers & dating
Posted: 1/18/2009 4:13:24 PM | I tend to fixate on SUV's myself. I suppose it is similar to me to having difficulties considering a date with someone that staunchly support GW twice, too. Fundamentally, it speaks to a red flag that you would have difficulties long term with someone that has a significant lifestyle difference.
Having said that, I think that conspicuous consumption is not something that any but the most dedicated amongst us is saved from. We will all have to deal with decisions that have to do with the ethics of need versus desire at some point. That I have it relatively easy in the car department, doesn't mean that I have it easy in the fancy computer department. I admit to be as hooked on a nice suit from Nordstrom's as much as anyone. There are some things for which bargain barn hunting just won't do.
Further, there are well-documented success stories between couples that were near polar opposites. I suspect Arnold Schwarzenegger and Maria Shriver would be a good example of such. While I don't agree with the statement that if you don't have to pay for the gas in the vehicle, you shouldn't be complaining about it, I do think that one can have a meaningful relationship with someone and disagree emphatically on some deeply-held core values. It simply requires acknowledgment of the differences, and an action plan for compromise when tolerance breaks down. | |
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| SUV drivers & dating
Posted: 1/18/2009 5:01:26 PM | | I don't have issues with anyone driving just about anything - as long as they have a good reason. | |
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| SUV drivers & dating
Posted: 1/18/2009 8:46:02 PM | When a guy comes to pick me up for a date and he's got one of those big ass pick ups - it's a challenge when you have short little legs like mine
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| SUV drivers & dating
Posted: 1/19/2009 5:59:52 AM | | Fleur, I look at it as a fitness test. As long as I can hoist myself in without help, then he knows I'm in shape for "gymnastics." | |
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| SUV drivers & dating
Posted: 1/19/2009 7:05:41 AM |  Curls. I feel the same way. All 5' 1" of me. I'm always sure that I'm wearing a pair of slacks or jeans. | |
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| SUV drivers & dating
Posted: 1/19/2009 5:14:48 PM | As a Land Rover lover, I had to post to this one. Jack is not only my car, he's my buddy.
He's solid as a tank, seats 7 ( I have 3 daughters that live with me and 4 grown children) , has airbags, and will charge right ahead in the snow and ice when other people were spinning out or just sitting along side the road beating their heads against their steering wheels. No chains needed. When summer hits and I can afford it, I'm getting a travel trailer to take the kids on trips and he'll haul it without breaking a sweat.
Yeah, I could get a mini van or a smaller car but it wouldn't make me feel the way I feel when I 'm driving Jack, not to mention I can't haul a room full of tile in a mini van.He gets pretty good gas mileage for what he is and I always combine trips. I rarely go out in him unless I have a couple of things to do and I usually do my errands on the way home from school.
If some guy didn't like me just because I drive a Land Rover, then I'm better off not having him in my life anyway. Love me, Love Jack . | |
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| SUV drivers & dating
Posted: 1/28/2009 5:06:38 AM | This is very interesting. I posted this thread 4 years ago, and only this year do I get a single response... very very interesting!
Anyway, since I have a bit more perspective on this, I think I still feel pretty much the same way. Anyone who is willing to be so ignorant and self-righteous enough to buy an SUV isn't worth my time. But again, people living in the arctic tundra and have 50 kids are excluded from that statement.
And people who drive SUV's just to feel tough... you need counseling, not an over-sized death machine. Or why don't you just buy a gun? That works just as well. | |
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Posted: 1/28/2009 3:05:28 PM |
people who drive SUV's just to feel tough... you need counseling, not an over-sized death machine. Or why don't you just buy a gun? That works just as well.
Ah... but a SUV is legal, and has less repercussions when you run someone over in it... whereas, a gun will have you on a murder charge | |
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| SUV drivers & dating
Posted: 1/29/2009 2:05:08 AM | I have one small SUV, (1988 Jeep Cherokee) and one large 4 door truck that is also classified as an SUV (1984 K5 Blazer. Its a convertible! ).
The Jeep I bought for work. I was delivering Pizza, and I needed something that could get through the worst roads in the worst conditions, be durable, and if it got scratched, hit or damaged, I wouldnt care. I had a camaro I loved with all my heart, but it just wasnt getting me through work very well.
That small SUV got 17 MPG while spending a large amount of time idling. It got hit 3 times while I had that job, once by a co worker! Each time, it cost me nothing to fix. 1st time there was no damage at all, where the Camaro would have taken $1200 in damage. I was also able to drive through the snow and ice effortlessly, and work two 15 hour shifts when everyone else called in. When my co-workers car wouldn't start, I just pushed him through the parking lot till it started.
As far as 10,000 kids? No. Ever tried to drive 25 pizzas to a Jr high school when its snowing? A pickup doesnt work too well. Again, the Jeep was perfect.
A Mini-Van might have gotten the job done, but it would have fiberglass bumpers, be taller, and get worse fuel millage. Prolly not 4wd, and more expensive... Ect. That $700 Jeep earned me between $1800 and $2100 a month for 6 months (Thats after taking the gas costs out)
Then, There is my K5 Blazer. I have always wanted one, and I do go out mudding. It might get between 10-15 mpg, never really cared to find out. I dont drive it often because it is very crude, no carpet, no insulation, ect. I am going to restore it, and I plan on a new engine for it this spring that will increase the fuel economy and I even have considered converting it to Fuel Injection, that way it will get maintain 15+ Mpg when I install my 37 inch tires.
I also plan on getting another Firebird in the near future. 1977 Firebird Trans Am. Big, heavy, fast, and the same fuel economy of the K5. Do I feel bad for using lots of Gas? Not really. I hope the man I buy the car from DOES buy a hybrid and drive it for the 12 years it takes for it to make any difference in the environment.
I don't quiet understand why the OP doesn't like SUV owners... Rude drivers or un-justified polluters? Either way. My Fuel economy on my Convertible doesnt make nearly the difference as the AC you run on a hot day....
Any way, I dont think of my blazer as an SUV any way, and my Jeep is being sold for $400 in the near future. | |
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Posted: 2/1/2009 2:52:16 PM | | I never thought I would have a suv but I had too. I large truck totaled my nice camero, had my son been in the car he would not be here. I feel safer now and yes it is 4 wd. I camp alot too, and have a large dog! | |
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| SUV drivers & dating
Posted: 2/2/2009 10:22:03 PM | | I guess I dont care what my date would drive. I highly doubt she would be driving in the first place. | |
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| SUV drivers & dating
Posted: 2/4/2009 12:57:07 AM |
Anyone who is willing to be so ignorant and self-righteous enough to buy an SUV isn't worth my time. But again, people living in the arctic tundra and have 50 kids are excluded from that statement.
ok dude. I'm sorry that this is 4 years past due.
I'm in a band. I've been driving our s*** around for 3 of the 4 years we've been playing shows. let me tell you that the piece of crap "oversized death machine" is pretty useful when you have 4 other band members, thousands of dollars of equipment, and a trailer to haul. and considering we all want to make it to our destination in order to save on gas, I'd say that I have full right to utilize its towing capacity, spacious seating and kick a** stereo system (which is only stock but still rocks my world.)
so before you go all punk rock, "I hate everything and everyone for no reason and I think that communism is the best idea ever" on everyone, I suggest you take into account that there are people like me who don't have a lot of money. and buying my parents SUV for 2 grand was the best option I had. and now I wouldn't trade that piece of crap for anything.
and if that makes me a tool for not caring, bite me.
I don't drive it to be tough. I don't drive it because I hate the environment.
I have to get places, and I have a band.
I'm done. | |
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| SUV drivers & dating
Posted: 2/6/2009 9:12:40 PM | I just came across this thread and had to reply.
Uhhh, some one please refresh my memory. Is this the USSR? Did some self appointed, all knowing, know better than the rest of us, Seattle metrosexual decide what everyone should drive? Next you should tell me how many miles a week I can use the nanny state's highways. This, at least for a short while longer, is still a free country. An SUV or a truck is still a legal product. Who the hell are you?
It's absolutely no business of anyone's why I have the vehicle I have. I have no short man, short****compensation issues. If I just like that type of rig that's enough.
Oh....and for the person who brought up guns....those are still legal as well.
I have sufficient firepower, but do lack at least one pistol...it's on my list. And my kids know how to shoot as well. Who knows...he might just save your ass someday when there's a riot in the streets. Mayor Nickles will be collecting plastic bags while kids from Eugene and other assorted gang bangers tear up the town.
No, I'm not some backwoods redneck. I clean up better than most and am a professional.
Just as it is your choice to drive and do whatever else you do...I have my choices as well.
And to the ladies who happen to wear short skirts....I'm always a gentleman....holding the door and lending a kind hand with eyes averted.
Maybe I'll look on Ebay for one of those old Russian sedans that everyone had to drive cuz that's the only thing they made.
out. | |
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| SUV drivers & dating
Posted: 2/7/2009 12:01:49 PM | | IMO SUV's are a fad. Are we supposed to believe that in the last 70ish years of driving vehicles there has been this long existing vacancy and missing type of vehicle that SUV's now fill? More power to those who do own one and can afford the gas, maintenance and scowls though of their neighbors. | |
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| SUV drivers & dating
Posted: 2/7/2009 3:10:57 PM | They aren't a fad. Although some own them because they are 'cool', most of the folks I know that own them have very legitimate reasons for doing so. In short, they do fill a niche in the market.
My work tends to have me schlepping large pieces of computer equipment all over the area. An SUV makes sense in this context - but I don't own one. That may change soon though. | |
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Posted: 2/7/2009 8:28:19 PM | You know, I really find it surprising that someone could get so worked up over an SUV. People have their own reasons for driving them - An SUV is not a cheap investment, they're expensive, use more gas and anything 4WD has more stuff to break. For some, vanity is their only reason to drive an SUV - for others, they'll go out of their way to ride a bus, walk or find an alternative in order to avoid adding to our impact on the environment.
Regardless of their reasoning, the sheer vitriol that some people spew just boggles the mind. It's one thing to choose to date (or not date) someone based on similar values, it's pure hubris to assume that you're superior to another person merely because of superficialities.
I, personally, wouldn't ever date someone that has a world view so myopic that they can't accept anyone different from them. (whether or not that person drove an SUV)
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Speaking of myopia - pay attention to where someone's from before you flame them for being wrong...
Amy's from the UK, where guns ARE illegal, Turk..
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| SUV drivers & dating
Posted: 2/19/2009 10:02:18 AM | OP-
Good Lord.
The last thing I care about is a man driving an SUV.
Of all the things to dismiss a potential person for......driving an SUV?
I hate saabs. I feel they are ugly as all hell.
But if I meet a great guy and he drives one....I couldnt care less.
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| SUV drivers & dating
Posted: 2/19/2009 11:04:16 AM |
Live in the absolute middle of the arctic tundra, have a family of 50, and the absolute only way you are getting out of your ice and sleet covered boulder and pot hole filled driveway is with 4 wheel drive... then you can get an SUV.
really was not aware that your 'permission',OP, was a requirement for SUV ownership..?
I don't have one, and I sort of agree with some of your points..but..you seem a little over-the-top, really now | |
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Posted: 2/19/2009 11:17:58 PM | This all seems a little ridiculous to me. I love my 3/4 ton 4x4 SUV with dual FlowMasters and a 454 under the hood. (Ahrrr ahrr ahrr.....) but it's not my vehicle of choice right now. I just don't have any other choice.
I still owe $3400 on the thing and it's barely worth that in today's market. I'm a single mom just trying to make it. In todays economy, I can't get rid of it and I can't get anything else.
Why are you so quick to judge someone by the vehicle they drive? You don't know their reasons so BACK OFF! (or I'll put it in 4 wheel drive and run over your Prius...) | |
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Posted: 2/20/2009 1:51:04 PM | LOL I thought this to be a very funny thread. Wish I found it 4 years ago.
This last winter should be one big reason why I have my big SUV. In the weeks we had the snow around here I pushed out, dug out and pulled out 16 cars, 2 small trucks, 0 SUV's. I am the type of person that will stop to help a stranger even if I am running late.
The body and under body damage alone to most of those cars would be more than most people insurance deductible. I had no problem getting anywhere I needed to be. I even drove around for my work and picked up and dropped employees for work.
Never once went in the ditch or had an issue with the snow.
I have 5 kids that I move around all the time and I usually have extras because I am a soccer coach as well. I am always moving kids around.
I also have a trailer for quads and dirt bikes. I haul my buddy and my brother-in-laws boats because they usually have a trailer hooked up and we like our toys.
I don't mind paying the extra gas. I get more use out of my vehicle than most people do just driving around town and on a occasional road trip.
Why would I judge a book by it's cover or a person by their car. My mamma brought me up smarter than that. :) | |
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