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 Pleny the Great

Joined: 10/20/2004
Msg: 1
Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 11/4/2005 3:54:58 PM
Women like jerks, its a fact. Lacy Peterson found out the hard way. I'am just wondering what are they thinking, because I dont understand. Most of my friends fathers arent around, they were jerks as was my own father. Most girls/women are unwed single mothers, why, because the dudes were jerks. Women are going to have sons who are jerks or daughters who'll get involved with jerks. This cycle will never end unless women learn from the mistakes of others. Then again, I dont think thats ever going to happen for reasons unknown.
 toohot2hdl

Joined: 7/26/2005
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Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 11/14/2005 11:05:20 AM
So, Sad but True...
I work with over 120 females, and most under 30yrs old.
At least 50% of them, fall in this catagory especialy the good looking ones.
They are attracted to the BAD BOY type...who are usualy good Bull Shitters, and or seem seem to lead a life on the Edge..of Excitment. I believe the average guy is just too boring for them, so they get stuck with the Jerks.
I'd love to here from the Female point of view on this...Why Are U attracted to Jerks??
 Jaysen72

Joined: 7/6/2005
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Posted: 11/16/2005 10:47:49 AM
I read somewhere and I believe this to be true that the reason most women fall for jerks is that most of them are very masculine and forceful that is very attractive to the opposite sex(evolution thing) that's why they go for these a**holes and will forever get burned in the end maybe that's why there are so many single mom's on this site sad.
 NOTLUKING4U

Joined: 8/3/2005
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Posted: 11/17/2005 2:54:54 PM
I wonder the same thing also. I, for one, am not into "jerks".
 peaceful one

Joined: 8/30/2005
Msg: 5
Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 11/17/2005 4:36:01 PM
lots of jerks here at POF-hm who could they be.............

wow-us single mamas only go for jerks?? Maybe not. Shit happens and its not always so cut and dry. But, if it makes it easier you to go to sleep at nite-go ahead think that way.
 Fuzbyone

Joined: 7/13/2004
Msg: 6
Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 11/24/2005 7:55:59 PM
I'm pretty sure women don't fall for jerks, its more of a grey area thingy. They go for the exciting attractive guys. It just happens that some of the exciting attractive guys can be jerks and get away with it.

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts2427174.aspx

^^What kind of ignorant fool or jerk would think single mothers shouldn't date? I think single mothers learned to ignore the jerks and possibly drug users(tripping lately?), and that's why you hate them.
 MtnDawn78

Joined: 10/5/2005
Msg: 7
Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 11/28/2005 12:17:25 PM
Jerks are the one who are best at masquerading as nice guys. And the jerks are the ones who are usually always asking "why do women prefer jerks?", to lure women into thinking that they are not jerks. The nice guys usually come out ahead.
 APRILLEANNE

Joined: 10/24/2005
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Posted: 12/1/2005 10:15:26 AM
I AGREE WITH YOU MTNDAWN THERE ARE4 MANY GUYS PRETENDING TO BE NICE GUYS, WHICH IS WHAT MOST SINGLE MOMS INCLUDING MYSELF ARE ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR, THAT ARE THE JERKS IN DIGUISE OF BEING NICE GUYS. EVEN HERE ON POF. I THINK THESE TYPE OF GUYS HAVE LOW SELF-ESTEEM TO BEGIN WITH AND LURING IN WOMEN WHO THINK THEY ARE REALLY NICE GUYS BOOSTS THEIR MALE EGO TO MAKE THEM FEEL BETTER ABOUT BEING THE ***holeS THEY REALLY ARE.
 sddude

Joined: 11/4/2004
Msg: 9
Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 12/5/2005 9:50:34 AM
So true dude , i know and work with alot of women , I see a pattern , genuinely nice guys are ignored for the bullcrappers , though alot of wokmen here would deny that fact , guys see it over and over , the nice guys learn the ways of the badasses and go that route so not be ignored , when I was genuinely nice , I could not get a date if my life depended on me , no matter how many flowers , poems , being a listener and a shoulder to cry on I was , it was way too gay for them , I do not do that shit anymore , am am kind of an ass that does not take any woman's crap anymore , guess what , the world is my chicken coop , no matter how nice and decent a woman claims to be or how hard to get , I can get them , get what I want , I wish I was nice genuine me and was as successful , I even have women paying for the date , but when I was the super nice guy , not faking it but the real nice guy that was their for them , I always ended up paying like 300 bucks or more for the dates I was able to get , the woman had what they wanted what they choose , now I choose for them take charge , give them less get them soo hot and leave them boiling , actually the bad dude facade is fake but they love it, they love it so much they persue me even if I am an ass to them ..

Still the nice guy inside wanting to be nice , I am celibate so sex is not what I am looking for if you think that was my plan , that frustrates women so much that it drives them crazy.

Reguardless what women say in these forums , the bad guy IS what they want, they are really attracted to them .

The majority of women here that say they do not want a bad guy and a nice guy that I am or was is what they want , ladies if you made that list of what you want in a nice guy is or was me but that got me nowhere just a good freind and nothing more .

The ones who genuinely want a nice guy are the majority of women that have learned their lessen , okay ever notice most women over 30 , single mothers and women with bad stories all seem to want a genuinely nice guy but in thier past a nice guy was always ignored and left out , do not give me that line that the badguy was pretending to be good , that facade is hard to keep . Being a bad ass is aslo hard but bears much fruit.

Bottom line , when a woman got beatup in life that is when they prefer a nice guy that is why the older women and some moms here are all here to find him but as time has shown , we will be a rare breed one day as they kill us off in thier youth.

By the way I do date single moms but for being so nice, caring and sweet, I seem to always end up being their child's baby sitter , that is when I am not putting up a facade , with single moms I do not have to . That is bad when that has been done , we end up going on dates with baby and baby comes first and me second , I guess I act too much of a nanny , maybe that is what the moms I date see in me , maybe I may have to not be so nice to them either , just put my foot down their too .

Nice guys finish last , womean make them finish last, the bas ass gets the chicken coop to himself .
 cbest42

Joined: 11/26/2005
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Posted: 12/7/2005 10:50:43 AM
i'm a nice guy maybe that is why most women ignore me :
 spring0308

Joined: 11/14/2005
Msg: 11
Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 12/11/2005 2:44:18 AM
Your general presumption is inaccurate. Of the universe, how much of a sample did you actually involve when coming to this conclusion? These women did not consciously know these men were/are jerks at the onset. It's probably more accurate to ask "Why are women gullible?"
 mikewreckedyou

Joined: 8/2/2005
Msg: 12
Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 3/7/2006 1:12:34 AM
see now, most women who say they "dont want the jerks" usually are all talk. and the ones that are actually sincere about this are older and have realized that jerks arent all they're made out to be. so maybe the older ladies can give the younger ones a heads up cause us younger "decent" guys dont usually end up with a decent girl till after they've already been around a couple times and by then they're pretty much ruined and have quite a bit of "emotional baggage" or so its called. dont wait till you're older to learn, take the hint now...
 sunnygirl61

Joined: 11/14/2005
Msg: 13
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Posted: 4/25/2006 9:48:11 AM
Maybe in my younger years, i went for jerks.
Now, if you are not nice, you are gone.
I deserve good people in my life. Respectful and Hopefully Honest.
I think as you get older you SEE the RED FLAGS much more easily.
Plus it has alot to do with liking yourself. Guys that are jerks will stay away from the stronger women and vulturize the insecure, needy ones.
 Smily_face

Joined: 2/1/2006
Msg: 14
Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 4/26/2006 6:50:34 AM
I am not into jerks and I never was. I always liked sensitive, gentle, romantic,intelligent men. Mucho men no matter how good looking never excited me. I guess the only explanation for this question I can come up with is that the chpice of men just says somethign about the women who chose them. Maybe these women are just not much
better or deeper than those men they choose.
 Jarbarian

Joined: 2/9/2006
Msg: 15
Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 5/4/2006 1:44:22 PM
They don't want jerks, they want balanced men. But because jerks are closer to balance than door mats (read: nice guys) they end up with jerks. Many women are insecure so a nice guy is unattractive (because after all, if this guy likes me then something must be wrong with him. But a jerk puts her in her place so he must understand and see she isn't of value - so goes the logic.)

Here's the definition of nice guy/balanced/jerk

1.) THE NICE GUY: Any man who exibits any combination of the following behaviors,

a.) Low self-esteem; doesn't value himself highly. Might be out of past failures or other deep-rooted emotional issues
b.) Constantly seeks approval/validation/attention from others, usually out of a low amount of self-worth (See a.)
c.) Insecure; doesn't feel that a high quality person should like him (See a. so is constantly fearful that he will lose them
d.) Controlling/posessive/domineering/clingy/suffocating behavior; overcalling, etc.. (See c.)
e.) Idealizes potential mates (overlooks flaws AKA "Puts them on a pedastal") as well as relationships (invests large amounts of emotion/time/energy/money into relationships early on)
f.) Doesn't take responsibility for his actions
g.) Claims he's victimized; attributes his own flaws and shortcomings to external circumstances and/or other people (See f.)
h.) Self-concious/nervous around attrative women; Cares what others think, doesn't want anyone to dissaprove of him (See b.)
i.) Strong amounts of jealously (See d.); makes people feel guilty when they enjoy time WITHOUT him
k.) Kisses-up/trys to be totally agreeable/submissive to try and "score points" with a woman
l.) Doesn't lead; he's submissive, always wants to make sure EVERYTHING he's doing is okay with her; over-apologetic
m.) Doesn't draw boundaries; gives women whatever they want in return for love/sex/approval; accepts second-class behavior for the possible reward of the aforementioned. Doesn't say "No" very often; doesnt want to cause any "waves" (See h.)
n.) Poor/weak body language; little or no eye contact, leans foward out of nervousness, fast/jerky movements, nervous ticks/figety habits, hands in pockets, bad posture/doesn't stand up straight
o.) Is easily emotionally destabilized; gets worked up over meaningless things
p.) Common use of self-deprecating humor to get approval/pity/empathy (See b.)
q.) Feels guilt for his natural sexual desires, maybe even LOOKING an a woman
r.) Whines/complains; usually to get pity/empathy
s.) Favors short-sighted/instant gratification thinking

The "nice-guy" is the personification of attributes in a man that women ultimately DO NOT feel attraction for.

Any man who wants to have genuine sucess with women should AVOID these at all costs

Women all around the globe, despite different backgrounds and upbringing, generally respond the same way to this type of man.

Nice-guys almost always act victimized and attribute their lack of sucess to outside factors they claim are out of their control. They think that it's not their fault (I.E "SHE'S IMMATURE FOR LIKING BAD BOYS" "SHE DOESNT RECOGNIZE GOOD GUYS WHEN SHE SEES THEM" "SHE HAS ISSUES" Sound familiar?). Many nice-guys harbor a [secret] belief that they're better than other men ("I bought her 20 roses on the 2nd date" "I waited in the rain for her for 3 hours" "I lent her money when she went over her credit card limit). However, the reality is that if you're doing something [NICE] to get something in return, you are being MANIPULATIVE. Nice guys will go through their entire lives living in a continual state of self-deception; convinced that they are "Good guys" and that they are better than others.

The fact of the matter is that nice guys do not have traits that make them appealing/attractive to the opposite sex.

The lack everything in a man that practically every woman wants. And that man is...

2.) THE REAL MAN: Any man who exibits any combination of the following behaviors.

a.) Has a HIGH amount of self-esteem; views himself as high-status
b.) Doesnt need any outside approval or attention from ANYONE to be happy
c.) Unself-concious; doesnt care what others thinks of him
d.) Is NEVER insecure or nervous (espcially around desireable women), and he sub-communicates this in every little way
e.) Self-confident; NEVER arrogant or insecure, POSSIBLY slightly-cocky. May tease women in a friendly way
f.) Does not let outside events/other peoples opinions (See c.) emotionally destabilize him; is always in control of his emotions
g.) Takes full responsibility for all of his actions
h.) Never whines or complains to get approval or empathy; always accepts the world for exactly what it is
i.) Judges people based on character and personality.. NOT outward appearance/material items
j.) Can be brutally honest (while still being respectful) with everyone(including himself) and is not afraid to put someone in their place when they are out of line; isn't afraid to speak his mind
k.) Isn't afraid to draw boundaries
l.) Mature.. in every sense of the word
m.) Has a PURPOSE in life that he never betrays and pro-actively/ambitiously works towards
n.) Goal-oriented thinker; favors long-term gratification over short (See l.)
o.) Isn't afraid to lead and take control of a situation; doesnt have hesitancy moving foward
p.) Never feels ashamed for his sexual desires & needs; always sexually confident
q.) Is always "himself", and is content with whatever that is (See a.)
r.) Doesn't tolerate disrespect to himself, his property, or his time
s.) Doesn't let women use their sexual power to get anything (whether it be money, or self-respect) from him
t.) Loyal
u.) Compassionate
v.) Independant
w.) Is perfectly happy and fufilled being single; sure, he'd like to find an attractive/beautiful/intelligent woman to spend time with but he doesnt NEED it
x.) Comfortable in the presence of other high-status and/or sophisticated people
y.) Doesnt experience jealousy; is perfectly fine when a woman exersizes her independence and encourages it; enjoys it when others shine
z.) Strong/confident/powerful body language (Stands up straight, doesnt break eye contact, doesnt have any nervous ticks, doesnt have quick/jerky movements, leans back out of self-confidence and lack of nervousness)
a1.) Doesn't feel the need to compensate for himself through gifts, expensive restaurants (Doing either of these things from a place of confidence and high-value is on the other hand OKAY)
a2.) DOESNT invest all his emotion/time into a relationship too early on. He remains an ambiguous challenge


The real man is the polar opposite of the "nice-guy". He is the manfestation of traits in a man that woman universally & naturally feel the emotion of attraction for.

Throughout history, real men have been featured in movies and literature.

The following quote was taken from 'Dangerous Men and Adventerous Women', a book about the appeal of romance novels to women,


"Given that conflict is a requirement of all good fiction, especially
good genre fiction, and given that the conflict must arise out
of the primary focus of the story, it is understandable that in a
romance novel conflict must exist between the hero and heroine.
The hero in a romance is the most important challenge the
heroine must face and conquer. The hero is her real problem in the
book, not whatever trendy issue or daring adventure is also going
on in the subplot. In some way, shape, or form, in some manner
either real or perceived on the heroine's part, the hero must be a
source of emotional and, yes, sometimes physical risk. He must
present a genuine threat.

The hero must be part villain or else he won't be much of a
challenge for a strong woman. The heroine must put herself at risk
with him if the story is to achieve the level of excitement and the
particular sense of danger that only a classic romance can provide.
And the flat truth is that you don't get much of a challenge for
a heroine from a sensitive, understanding, right-thinking "modern"
man who is part therapist, part best friend, and thoroughly
tamed from the start. You don't get much of a challenge for her
from a neurotic wimp or a good-natured gentleman-saint who
never reveals a core of steel. And it is that core of steel at the
center of a good romance hero that makes it all worth while."

(A -perfect- example of a real man would be Rhett Butler in Gone With The Wind.

He's never afraid to point out when someone is acting childish or out of line

He's always comfortable in the face of danger or other high status people

He doesn't care what others think of him

And many more..)

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[On a side note] women don't have control over who they are attracted to, the same way that men don't have control over which women turn them on. It's a completely unconcious process that we dont have GENUINE control over. So beliefs like "Once she figures how I feel about her, she'll have no choice but to love me!" could not be further from the truth. Women cannot feel the powerful gut-level emotion of attraction for you through LOGICAL resoning/telling her all your feelings/"winning her over" with gifts, etc...

This was a post taken from this thread. (http://www.loveshack.org/forums/t53288/)

"My first bf was absolutely in love with me. He was the nicest guy I ever went out with. Total gentleman. Sincere. A great listener. Handsome. With all of this I let him go. Why? I still don't know!!! Up to this point he still tells everyone I was the one broke his heart, his first and only love. He was the closest to perfect that there can be. He stayed in love with me for 7 years and he has always thrown it in my face that I let go of someone who really cared for me and loved me to date guys that were jerks. He says I like the bad life. He is a real good friend now, so he tell me how he sees it. He always asks me why did I leave him. He tells me that I like bad a**es, which might be true!!! Why? Again, I don't know Sometimes I think he was TOO nice, too perfect. I wish I could have made my heart fall in love with him instead, everything would be different."

This is a perfect example of logic vs. emotion. Her logical brain says she SHOULD feel attracted to him, but there just isnt that spark; that elusive chemistry that men strive for and that women crave.

And I should metion, that he sounds like a victimized nice-guy, who is STILL trying to get her back and STILL seeking approval and sympathy from her (by rubbing it in her face and reminding her).
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There's no denying that women respond strongy to these kind of men. The real man is a archetype for the next kind of man..

3.) "THE BAD BOY"

The bad boy is a man who posses certain appealing qualities of a real-man, but packaged along with negative traits

He may be physically and/or emotionally abusive, harbor bad-habits (drug abuse, alcholism, etc..), objectify or

degrade women, etc..

The bad boy is appealing because he shares traits with the real-man.

The bad boy and real the real man should NEVER get confused. They are two very different creatures; one is a mature man while the other is simply a boy in a mans body; a neotenous adult.
 bradni

Joined: 4/4/2006
Msg: 16
Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 5/5/2006 10:24:05 AM
Irish lad here just passing threw.

Im a jerk and women dont like me so you theory is untrue i am living proof of it
 Zooks

Joined: 2/3/2006
Msg: 17
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Posted: 5/8/2006 4:36:03 PM
I'm in now way a "Jerk" and women like me.
I have lots of close friends that are women
I have had a long relationship because I wasnt a jerk
and remain close friends with my Ex
because of the fact.
not all women like jerks
 drmpursuer

Joined: 4/18/2006
Msg: 18
Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 5/11/2006 2:14:27 PM
jarbarian, this list is outstanding and really is a good summary for some of us who follow a similar path. It clarifies the discussion on here because the definition of 'nice guy' is so different for everyone. When you say a 'nice guy' you mean a doormat, but for me, that kind of guy is one I would call a 'wuss', or in the pick-up community, an AFC, 'Average Frustrated Chump'.

When I read your post, I was amazed that a guy would quote from the book 'Dangerous Men and Adventurous Women', let alone had even heard of it. I thought, wow, I bet this guy must have heard of David D. Turns out that you mentioned in another thread that you follow some of David's stuff. I thank that man for turning me from a wuss to a 'balanced man' today.
 truthofive

Joined: 4/9/2006
Msg: 19
Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 5/13/2006 8:19:27 AM
I think jarbarian oversimplifies the difference between a jerk and a "nice guy". Being agreeable doesn't make a guy a pathetic loser as she implies. I personally pick and choose my battles. Why argue over stupid shit. Some women make the fundamental mistake that a nice guy is only good as a doormat. I am one of the nicest guys a woman would ever meet although I can be aggressive in the right situation if she is willling.... I care about what she thinks and want her to be happy, but I would like the same consideration in return. My ex wife latched onto me at 21 because she was insecure and overly emmotional and our relationship was new and fun. I could send chills down her spine and she was totally in love with me. I could have and should have ran the other way as fast as I could because she was emmotionally unstable. Then she went on the pill and mellowed out. We lived together in a mutually agreeable relationship for several years before she got demanding and said we needed to get engaged or break up. I loved her and I thought I was doing the right thing by marrying her. After all the cards telling me I was the most wonderful person and how happy she was that we were together, she started having an affair and ran off to live with another man. Of course this was after 12 years with me and after walking away from our common religion because she didn't like what our church said was "wrong" (and yes living together had been wrong). Why? Because she was overly controlling and could not compromise in a relationship. She always wanted to have her way and said we didn't want the same things anymore. She needed a true door mat. She needed a wuss. Someone who would kiss her ass, tell her she was beautiful every day to build her self esteem, and bow to her every whim. Someone who would run to the door like a dog and greet her with dinner waiting on the table. Someone she could control.

I do have opinions and convictions that she could not "change" even though I could care less about what we had for dinner or where we went on vacation as long as we were together. Really, she became more demanding as a partner as her career took off and she became more financially secure on her own. As she bossed around more people at work, she tried to do it more at home. She resented cleaning the toilet even though she didn't touch the lawn mower or the chainsaw. I believed we each contributed in different ways to our relationship. She would get angry if I didn't do things on her time table. I would get upset with her, but I tried not to take my frustration out on her because she was my wife, and I tried to be patient and forgiving. She on the other hand was a scorekeeper looking for things to complain about.

While my self esteem was shaken to the very core by the departure of my ex wife, I began to realize that it was her own personal faults and insecurities that led to the breakup of our marriage. She was the one who decided our marriage could not be saved with counseling. Women think I'm cute, funny and interesting. I am not a violent person by nature and I treated my ex wife with respect. Everyone including her parents were shocked that she left. I wasn't the one who needed compliments every day to feel loved. I wasn't the one who needed to bring her parents on vacation or have a bazillion friends on the internet. I wasn't the one never happy with what we had in life and always wanting what other people had. Of course when you first read this, you'll say, aha, they lived in a trailor and she needed to get away from that loser who was dragging her down. No, actually she was a spendaholic who made and spent a lot more money than I ever did. But what we had in life was because of my financial discipline. She cost me more than she ever gained for me. She came to hate me for moderating her wants. When she "wanted" a new house, I asked if we needed a new house. She said her mom didn't like our house and I said, I don't care because she doesn't have to live here. I was waiting for her to get pregnant because our mortgage was so cheap we didn't need to spend more money on a bigger place. But when we went car shopping, I had her buy the more expensive model because I knew it would make her happy and she deserved it. Why? She needed a new car and it was for us... our future family. Myself, I bought less truck than I could afford because I didn't "need" it and she had the nice family car. Being nice doesn't mean being a door mat. It also doesn't mean controlling or possessive. I trusted her to fly to different parts of the country for work conferences. I would have been better off being controlling, because that's where she met her lover. I should also have been more questioning about her friendships on the internet that were so important to her. She stopped communicating with me and not the other way around. She was someone in whom I had misplaced my trust. My being a nice guy actually put her to the true test as a person because she had the total freedom to keep her vows or stray.

So what ever happend to my ex? She's now a financially successful drunken slut who from what I can tell is emotionally a wreck as she tries to fill her life with material things and experiences. Someone who has latched onto a ****in jerk who is the proverbial wimp. Someone she can have her way with because he's an ugly desperate loser. Someone she's going to find out is a jerk underneath it all who's just telling her what she wants to hear rather than how he feels. I didn't lie to my ex wife, I didn't cheat on my ex wife and I didn't abuse my ex wife. In the end, I will find another woman who will be more submissive, allow me to lead more in the relationship and make my life complete. Someone who will appreciate me as the person I am and not who she wants me to be. My ex is going to find out the hard way that the nice guy she abandoned was the best thing that ever happened to her.

Oh, and in the end, I'm not the one who has to worry about looking people in the eye. I always tried to do what was right and fair. I have nothing to be ashamed of and I don't like being steriotyped any more than the next guy. When my ex father in law refused to shake my hand and treated me like a jerk at court I simply said, "I wasn't the one who cheated".....
 ~*sexyscorpio*~

Joined: 1/17/2006
Msg: 20
Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 5/13/2006 8:12:31 PM
I beg to differ. I beleive I have broken this cycle you speak of. My man is a NICE guy. Everyone I know loves him and consider him a great guy. My ex(the father of my kids) is an abusive ass=jerk. Everyone I know strongly dislikes him...even many of his former friends. He is your typical abusive male. Physically, emotionally and sexually. It took me 9 years to get away from this man, but I did it. I have counselled for the past 6 years and learned the cycle. I have now moved on into a relationship that is healthy, loving and equal.
 little_mermaid

Joined: 10/16/2005
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Posted: 5/18/2006 9:08:46 AM
I don't like Jerks..it's possible in the 20's women sometimes falls for the jerk..but then with age comes wisdom.(hopefully)

I would rather be alone for the rest of my life then be with a selfish man ie. jerk.
 OKCshooter

Joined: 5/14/2006
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Posted: 5/20/2006 2:45:22 AM
Some of these girls don't learn. I have talked to a few, pointing out the evil ways of their bad boy, boyfriends and they don't get it. "Well, I love him" is usually how they respond. They don't know why they do. They don't like what these jerks do to them, especially humiliating them in public, but they cry, stomp around, and chase after the same jerk. It seems to me that with maturity, women will grow out of the "putting up with the jerk" phase.

Something I thought was interesting was when I created identical profiles on multiple sites, the same women were interested, however when using slightly different wording on the same site lots of new women and only a few of the same women were interested. The profile that was more direct about sexuality and listed rugged sports caught the interest of the younger and really physically attractive women. The other profile that was passive and mild caught the interest of older, more balanced, and women with children.

I know we all have an image of what we'd like to find in a potential mate, but isn't weird how the ones we'd are attracted to don't care about us, while the ones trying to pursue us, we are not attracted to.

I now realize the number of "nice guy" qualities I possess are high and I need to trade some of them with "Real man" qualities. I certainly appreciate the lists provided. I came looking for and if I didn't find a post asking, "Why do women like jerks?", I was going to start one. I was toying with the idea of becoming a jerk or at least trying to fake it. I'm tired of hearing how perfect of a man I am, but yet I'm still alone. Thanks to this post and all the contributors, I believe I don't have to compromise who I am really, but be a little more assertive and practice saying "no" to women when it's time to do so. These are lessons I wish I had learned years ago.
 arkainedrk

Joined: 5/20/2005
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Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 5/25/2006 11:01:00 AM
ARE WOMEN ATTRACTED TO ARROGANT AND**** GUYS?

I feel...
Maybe because at first, perhaps, arrogance seems like confidence...
And the flashy birds catch the eye...
But bright colors are natures way of warning you.
Some(too many) people are color blind.

My 2 cents.
 little_mermaid

Joined: 10/16/2005
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Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 5/25/2006 11:12:23 AM
OKCshooter-Hopefully I will not come off as a jerk..but I think you should revamp your profile. It will show how perfect of a man you are and then you never know the right fish for you will see it and wa laa not alone.
 BarbieQued

Joined: 1/12/2006
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Why do women like Jerks
Posted: 5/30/2006 5:44:19 PM
I don't believe looks play a part of who is the jerk , ive been involved with the good looking and the plan ass fugly and a jerk is a jerk. Ive loved both and in most cases they were not jerks really they just can't be with a woman who can't be minipulated or controlled, so they leave or I leave and I get over it.
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